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Basketball / Re: A WHOLE BUNCH OF DUNKS AND SHIT.
« on: October 08, 2017, 12:24:22 pm »
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Basketball / Re: A WHOLE BUNCH OF DUNKS AND SHIT.
« on: October 08, 2017, 12:24:13 pm »
i don't think j-kills is into bball like that. I do think he played for his h.s. team and maybe a year at his local college, i forget.. but, I think he's always been just so obsessed with dunking itself, that he doesn't even think about bball. that's the vibe i get.
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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: ADARQ's journal
« on: October 08, 2017, 11:27:24 am »
my head ~15 minutes after the race.
solid skull vein, lul.
should have removed the jersey from my shoulder though, distorts it a bit IMHO.
man it was crazy humid .. phone said 93% humidity @ like 82 F.
solid skull vein, lul.
should have removed the jersey from my shoulder though, distorts it a bit IMHO.
man it was crazy humid .. phone said 93% humidity @ like 82 F.
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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: ADARQ's journal
« on: October 08, 2017, 11:10:39 am »
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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« on: October 08, 2017, 11:05:53 am »Thanks Adarq. It wss actually my common practice to do 5 reps of drop and 5 reps depthjump as warm up.
Guess it is doing more harm than good. Would take ur advice and in my next effort jump session next week.
Mean while a video log.
171007 W2 Plyo
Some of the contact time is way too long.
Coach suggested to focus on low ground contact time while maintaining 90 percent height.
He said try to not lose more than 10 percent of vert while keeping the speed up
Thats the idea, but in no way i can tell if i am jumping my 90 or 80 percent height...
I just know.. I am slow... When i am on the ground too long.
https://youtu.be/Uw6A_zcCVWU<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uw6A_zcCVWU" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uw6A_zcCVWU</a>
again, "i just know, i am slow .. my contact time are way too slow". why? says who? it's not that bad .. the problem I see, is that you are thinking about that landing after the jump, it's obvious that's what's going on in your head.
in a true depth jump: you drop, and jump as high as possible while trying to get off the ground as fast as possible, that's all you think about. That's the cue that the guy who created depth jumps, found to be the best/most effective. He also used an overhead goal (something to hit/touch), which makes them more effective, but not everyone has that kind of setup. If you can implement an overhead goal, I would do it.
there's no 90%, 80%, or thinking about what to do after you jump (ie some kind of landing).
so i'm not trying to go against your coach, but, there's no 90% in a true DJ. If you are doing 90%, that's a submax DJ effort.. which again, could be the purpose, to get more volume in or maybe just as preparation for more intense DJ's, so who knows.
but, the biggest problem is that you are thinking about landing in some "squat form" after your jump.. I don't get that at all. If you jump as high as possible, you will land all kinds of different ways. It'll never be one consistent type of landing: sometimes you'll twist, sometimes you look all funny & be off balanced, sometimes you'll land picture perfect -> NONE OF WHICH IS BETTER THAN THE OTHER. Many of my highest jumps after DJ's had my literally landing facing the other direction, because i'm reaching up as high as possible with my right arm and that causes considerable twisting.
so, to me, the fact that you have added another "link in the chain" to the movement, means you are sacrificing the ability to truly focus on the DJ itself. Someone has told you, or you are trying, to do a "Depth Jump + Depth drop" .. IMHO, those are two different exercises. The Depth Jump itself has a drop, the initial drop off of the box/etc. The next phase is the jump. There's no reason to have yet another depth drop after the jump .. I mean it'll happen naturally, you're landing .. but no reason to actually think about sticking the landing in some kind of specific form.
your DJ's are not as bad as you think they are.. you often think things are worse than they are, I feel that this may cause you to overanalyze in the wrong direction. Since you think you're slow off the ground, or your jump plant isn't low enough, or your runup is too slow etc, you try and manually correct these things, causing more "thought" during the movements.
the more you think during an explosive/dynamic movement, the worse it gets. Just "think" about that, no pun intended. It should be reflexive, free, with as little interference from the brain as possible. By thinking too much & correcting (or what we think is correcting, actually incorrecting) various components of a movement, we actually teach ourselves to be more mechanical. We are not machines.
Clear your mind and just, do - with maximal effort, passion, love, intensity, etc.
my 2 cents.
peace!
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800m+ Running and/or Conditioning / Re: 2017 Chicago Marathon - Sunday 10/08/2017
« on: October 08, 2017, 10:22:54 am »
Just got home, great race for the men it seems. For the US, Rupp is right there with Kurui.
As for the women, US's Hasay is apparently on US record pace.. and 3rd overall.
beast.
As for the women, US's Hasay is apparently on US record pace.. and 3rd overall.
beast.
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Nutrition & Supplementation / Re: The AMAZING Food Picture Thread
« on: October 07, 2017, 09:49:43 pm »
from a few days ago
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Basketball / Re: A WHOLE BUNCH OF DUNKS AND SHIT.
« on: October 07, 2017, 07:14:56 pm »Finally Guy Dupruy actually playing bball.
Really want to see Jordan Kilganon play full court too<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vItshxF7cl4" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vItshxF7cl4</a>
dude. Dupuy plays in lots of leagues, events, tournaments, streetball/pickup games etc. He's a hooper, loves the game it seems. You check his instagram? The last "tournament" I saw that he competed in was something in Miami:
An event/charity game:
Also he does lots of pickup ball apparently. One thing is for sure, that dude is REALLY busy. He seems to ALWAYS be doing something, travels all over the place to dunk & hoop.
nice link though, hadn't seen the "full highlights".
Professor had a few really disgusting moves in there on people.
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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: The Misc Performance Coaches Thread
« on: October 07, 2017, 06:14:48 pm »
speaking of RJ .. an article was just posted by him on just-fly-sports:
https://www.just-fly-sports.com/concentric-reactive-ballistics-explosive-performance/
it's a nice opening quote .. i like the weight gain part, but that can be controlled when doing traditional lifting simply through diet. not sure about the other claims, would have been nice if he used references
I think the biggest thing he's missing though, is, what happens when the weights become easier over time? ie, you've been squatting for 2 years, and 1.5 x BW used to be hard, now it flies up in < 1s - you can basically jump squat it, with your new slow max at 2.5 x BW, at a 5-7 lb. bodyweight increase.. now what? Sounds like a recipe for solid performance gains.
so now, how's that work with "ballistics"? You used to be able to swing the hammer 30 ft, now you can swing it 50 ft. Surely a power increase, but not sure how well it increases without significant increases in base strength.
I just don't buy the injury stuff though.. Theoretically, the more force you are able to produce at voluntary effort, the more stress you are able to create for your tendons, muscles, bones, joints, etc. Doesn't really matter what you are doing, if you are performing anything at "max effort", whether it's running, sprinting, swinging a hammer, depth jumping, bounding, squatting etc, the injury risk always seems high, even though you are more prepared than the average human. And it's not just more prepared, it's also less inhibited - less inhibition meant to protect you from yourself, controlled the CNS. To me, heavy lifting has always seemed safer than ballistic efforts. Things move so much more slowly, you have way more control.
Regardless, seems very similar to RJ of many years ago. Almost looks like an old article. Wonder how he's progressed more now that he's coaching.
https://www.just-fly-sports.com/concentric-reactive-ballistics-explosive-performance/
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During conventional barbell training, intensity is manipulated primarily via load. The more weight you lift, the higher the intensity, the stronger you get. While this works fine for a while, what most trainees find is that a long term focus on conventional lifting results in excess weight gain, development of the “prime movers” out of proportion with the “stabilizing muscles”, a reduction in sport speed and form, and an ever-increasing chance of injury as the weights climb.
it's a nice opening quote .. i like the weight gain part, but that can be controlled when doing traditional lifting simply through diet. not sure about the other claims, would have been nice if he used references
I think the biggest thing he's missing though, is, what happens when the weights become easier over time? ie, you've been squatting for 2 years, and 1.5 x BW used to be hard, now it flies up in < 1s - you can basically jump squat it, with your new slow max at 2.5 x BW, at a 5-7 lb. bodyweight increase.. now what? Sounds like a recipe for solid performance gains.
so now, how's that work with "ballistics"? You used to be able to swing the hammer 30 ft, now you can swing it 50 ft. Surely a power increase, but not sure how well it increases without significant increases in base strength.
I just don't buy the injury stuff though.. Theoretically, the more force you are able to produce at voluntary effort, the more stress you are able to create for your tendons, muscles, bones, joints, etc. Doesn't really matter what you are doing, if you are performing anything at "max effort", whether it's running, sprinting, swinging a hammer, depth jumping, bounding, squatting etc, the injury risk always seems high, even though you are more prepared than the average human. And it's not just more prepared, it's also less inhibited - less inhibition meant to protect you from yourself, controlled the CNS. To me, heavy lifting has always seemed safer than ballistic efforts. Things move so much more slowly, you have way more control.
Regardless, seems very similar to RJ of many years ago. Almost looks like an old article. Wonder how he's progressed more now that he's coaching.
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Basketball / Re: Double EastBay on 10ft rim is definitely Doable
« on: October 07, 2017, 02:46:25 pm »exactly, it's more complicated than a specific trait.... brb going to go train....
if it's more complicated than a specific trait or traits, then you're basically agreeing that it's more complicated than genetics, which would mean you're starting to agree more with me that culture & training are probably more important.
have a good session.
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Basketball / Re: Double EastBay on 10ft rim is definitely Doable
« on: October 07, 2017, 02:44:34 pm »If I were to say "German Shepards, in general, have stronger bites than Cocker Spaniels" would I be a dog racist?
If I were to say "All german shepards have stronger bites than cocker spaniels" than I may be stereotyping.
Sure there has to be certain cocker spaniels out there that have stronger bites than certain German Shepards, but those are obv outliers.
Your golden nugget basket is getting heavier.
The problem (one of many) with your analogy is, these dogs are of completely different structure (size/weight), and you're using a strength measurement.
If you were comparing the bite strength of black cocker spaniels to white cocker spaniels, that'd resemble more of what you're doing with humans.
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Basketball / Re: Double EastBay on 10ft rim is definitely Doable
« on: October 07, 2017, 02:33:10 pm »LMFAOOOO hahahahahahaha hwahahahahah
All i'm saying is that YOU CAN'T DENY THE FACT THAT GENETICS PLAYS A BIG ROLE IN ATHLETICS.
I don't think you read what I type, I never said genetics don't play a role .. I read what you type though.
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If I were to say that African Americans skin pigments, in general, is less likely to get sunburned than a caucasian, am I still being racist? It's a FACT, not racism at all. If I were to say no african americans get sunburned, and all whites get sunburned, then that be a stereotype/racism etc wthaever u want to call it.
I can't believe someone as smart as you are, is being like this....
We're actually making progress here, believe it or not.
You just identified a genetic factor in black people, melanin, which helps prevent sunburn - but doesn't actually entirely prevent sun burn. Black people also have a significantly higher risk of getting melanoma's, apparently. So burn less, but more risk for skin cancer.
So you identified an EXACT genetic trait responsible for addressing some kind of effect.
Now, please provide me the genetic trait(s) responsible for putting a ball through a hoop. If you list "melanin", i'll fall over and die. Every trait you will try to list, will not be anything specific to people with melanin in their skin.
Apparently simply being "of West African Descent" or having melanin in skin, makes people better at putting a ball in a hoop and bouncing it with coordination on the floor. Got it. Thanks!
I need a melanin injection.
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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Hello, my name is David
« on: October 07, 2017, 02:05:52 pm »lol, cause I start so many threads, some of you guys thought I'm too annoying and "borderline spamming" so I thought if I'm going to make another post, I might as well try to be creative.
anyway, interesting, calisthenics. I'm also curious as to why professional sprinters, those dedicated to being world champions, would even bother doing the following exercises: bench press, push press, etc.
Sure push press involves entire body, but there are much better exercises if you're a pro sprinter.
Sometimes the difference between a nobody and a world champion can come down to .005 seconds. That means the smallest edge matters. Maybe that .5 extra lb of upper body muscle hurt you by .005 sec. Why bother doing bench press, when you can just do arm swings or arm swings while bounding, which is much more specific to running.
You get what I mean. If you want it that bad, to be the world champion sprinter, you're willing to make those sacrifices.
I don't get why some of these sprinters get so top heavy.
I think Christophe lemaitre is someone that has made the most out of what he has to work with. I believe he is training as optimal as possible compared to some of the other sprinters who have much better genetics than him.
Sure this guy is an absolute beast in physique, but as a pro sprinter, why pack on so much upper body weight? Either he is not training optimal, or he doesn't want it bad enough to be the best possible sprinter he can possibly be, by sort of body building other areas non specific to sprinting.
Well, in Harry Aikines-Aryeetey's case, the jacked af sprinter, I think he also profits off of that muscle. He's probably learned that by being so big, and so fast, that he can make alot of extra $$ without having to try and REALLY compete with the best in the world. He's insanely fast, but not elite fast. Would he be elite fast with less upper body mass? Maybe, maybe not.. Would he have a better chance at being elite fast with less upper body mass? IMHO, definitely.
I remember way back he was still big, but not as massive as he is now. I imagine if we saw his sprint times, they'd have surely gone down as his weight went up.
I agree that he's carrying too much upper body mass. If he's doing something specific to put on that mass, if I was coaching him, i'd stay STOP. I'd want him to atrophy alot of that mass back to a more normal range, while keeping as much as possible on his lower body. So i'd just swap out his upper body lifts that have hypertrophy time under tension, for dips/pullups and some maintenance level strength work using singles and such (80-90% 1RM).
Bench can still be good for sprinters because, it can active and/or fatigue the nervous system. Getting the nervous system to "respond" the way you want, is important. So any heavy lift can be used as a tool to try and achieve some kind of effect, whether it's a delayed training effect, overall strength gain effect, immediate potentiation effect (heavy bench singles before some intense short sprints) etc. Some coaches use them for things like that.. I mean just think about it from the simplest sense, say you want to stimulate the nervous system considerably by moving a heavy load, but not tax the anti gravity muscles at all? What would you use? Bench sounds like a decent option.. So now you stimulated the CNS and can then use some of that stimulation in subsequent plyometrics, sprints, tempo, etc.. All kinds of weird techniques that can really work well with certain athletes.
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Basketball / Re: Double EastBay on 10ft rim is definitely Doable
« on: October 07, 2017, 01:54:16 pm »Come on Adarq, 13 billion people (actually 15 billion because the census in china is corrupt/innaccurate)
And you finally found 1 gem to try to support your claim that culture is the #1 factor, which just isn't true.
I never stated that "gem" supports my culture claim. I was refuting your incorrect claim. Anyway, it's how things begin.. one guy in a country proves it can be done, then others realize they can do it too, especially children..........
Just like Usain Bolt proved to everyone a tall 100m sprinter can become the best.
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The people that train for athletics in China, similarly to those that "start running in Jamaica right out the woom", are kids that state they love a certain sport at the age of 3, and put into sports schools right off the bat.
it's really genetics /training the #1 factor.....
Not all of them. Many of those kids are guided into specific athletic disciplines based on testing/screening that's performed, with kickbacks (money) to the parents, and the potential for a better life.
Even if they were 3 year old kids who loved "olympic weightlifting & olympic diving" (LMFAO, do you recognize how ridiculous that sounds), it's not certain that they wouldn't have been better left to develop more naturally, and realize they actually love sprinting. Those 3 year old "phenoms", don't have Chinese sprinters as role models.
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USA is a basketball culture, but the NBA is dominated by AFrican Americans, it's just a FACT. It's not stereotyping at all.
but pretty much all of the europeans entering the league are white? Why aren't the non-US players entering the league, all black, from African countries, or just black people from mixed/mostly white countries?
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Even though African Americans only account for roughly 10-13% of the population.
You're telling me white people just aren't into basketball, hence the NBA is like 90% people of direct West African descent/lineage?
I see plenty of white people in the league, obviously nowhere near black, but could that be attributed more towards where african americans grow up? how sports is basically the #1 option in most of these areas, not education?
Parents who let their kids play sports all day, put them in leagues, idolize sports stars, instead of forcing them to come inside and study, regardless of color, will have more athletic children. That's a sad fact of where many athletes grow up, low income areas, low education areas, emphasis on sports & competition, not education.
Have you ever been to a "mostly white town/city" in the US and watched their children/sports leagues? When I grew up in the area, it was mostly white here, no tackle football, only flag football. Now a large percentage of the population is black and guess what, tackle football and it's become a massive culture down here, and it's mostly black people playing it.
So, would I have had any chance at football growing up in this mostly white/elderly area at the time? Or would I have more of a chance growing up now, with tackle football leagues and tons of children whose family members/parents/etc have also played, perhaps at the collegiate and NFL levels as well?
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Yeah Mutomboo, lol at philippines, they do love bball down there hahaha, but they're just at such a disadvantage due to their genetics lol, also it's true, they don't train as optimal as USA people or have great BBALL minds as USA trainers/coaches etc....
They probably have people < 6' being trained to play Center, Forward, etc.
Where'd you get your 90% number from? Your ass? It's probably a pretty close guess though. This is from something on wikipedia:
"the NBA in 2015 was composed of 74.4 percent black players, 23.3 percent white players, 1.8 percent Latino players, and 0.2 percent Asian players."
Clarify one thing for me though.. If a white player dominates in the NBA, what's it attributable to? Genetics? But how can it be attributable to genetics if, he's not of "West African Descent and/or not black" (even though we all descend from Africa)?
So what makes a white NBA player successful, or more successful, than his genetically superior black colleagues?
Btw, this is the argument racists always end up at: for whites, it's skill and hard work. For blacks, ok they maybe work hard but it's all genetics. Their genetics codify the ability to put a ball through a hoop from 30+ feet away @ ~40+ % accuracy.
How come there's no black NFL quarterbacks??? Ever heard that one? Remember when that was a "thing" 15 years ago? What happened to that theory? DESTROYED. The theory was based on the "fact" that blacks weren't as smart/capable in such a position, they don't have the "intelligence genetics" to be able to play QB. Well, one after the other, black QB's started to emerge, more & more young black children began to emulate Warren Moon & Randal Cunningham, and now we have black superstar QB's who can play just as good as any white QB.
smh.. kinda sad tbh.
These discussions always suck.
BTW FDL, you'll never reach 40" SVJ because of your genetics. Might as well quit now, you have no chance. Someone of West African Descent can do it easily, but you never will..........
If you fail to reach 40" SVJ, it could be attributable to genetics, but it would be mostly attributable to training, and not developing such qualities (to give you more of a chance later on in life) while you were a young child/young teen/young adult etc.You can reach 40" SVJ though, you know why? All you have to hit is 2.5-3xBW squat while being ~6-8% body fat, and jumping over 100,000 times.. None of those components are constrained to being "black". They are constrained to putting in the proper work, and hitting the right numbers.
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Nutrition & Supplementation / Re: The AMAZING Food Picture Thread
« on: October 07, 2017, 11:12:18 am »
eggporn.