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true, true. to be fair to myself, i did not say that i was going to launch right into this program. if you look at the OP, my plan is still to ramp up carefully back to where i was, with basic jumps and squats, and then go from there. hell, i'm still gaining back the weight i lost after three weeks of um, well, diarrhea. so we are in complete agreement about what i should do right now. the question is more what's next. you've made your opinion pretty clear, which i appreciate.

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@T0dday: I am curious about your thoughts on two things you said.
One is that you would have most athletes (5'10 and taller) perform single leg jumps if the goal was to have them dunk ASAP. This is interesting to me because I believe that this is in contrast to what most would think to be the best method. I do not know, because as a volleyball player I have never performed single leg jumps, but I cannot see the reason why it should be easier to increase the single leg jump compared to double leg jump. Could you elaborate on this?

The other thing is me wondering why you gave such a low recommendation for squat progress in the program you posted (30 lbs per 8 weeks). I said earlier that anything less than 100 lbs squat increase in 6 months would be "fooling around". Obviously this depends on level of training advancement quite a bit, but I stand by that in the case of a young, healthy, athletic and underweight person with less than a 2x bw squat. I tend to think that the 100 lbs is in fact a conservative number of what is possible to achieve in that time frame for a novice of said characteristics. In the given case, LBSS squatted 245 lbs x 3 x 8 as his last work-out. I say he could squat 380 lbs x 5, if not more, in half a year if he eats properly. Do you disagree?

two things:

1. i have a 2x bw squat. i squatted 355 at ~172 pounds. admittedly, it's lower now because i've been traveling and unable to train properly.
2. also because i've been traveling, i'm ramping up squatting carefully. hence the very light weight so far in my last few workouts.

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yesterday:

BW = 167
SORENESS = none
ACHES/INJURIES = left Achilles tendon
FATIGUE = low

- warm up

- SL box jump 3 x 3e

- depth jump 3 x 3

- pogo 3 x 5

- jump squat 2 x 3 x 95

- squat 3 x 8 x 245

- calf raise 2 x 15 x 135
hard

- DB push-up-to-row 2 x 8e x 25e
harder on core than i expected

- stretch

*** break ***

- tennis x 30 minutes
perpetually shakin' off the rust...

there was some kind of event going on on the basketball court so i subbed in some other things for the normal jumps. have video, will post. squats were easy. calf raises surprisingly hard. kept the UB stuff easy because i'd been there forever already and wanted to go play tennis with my dad.

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strong post is strong. thanks.

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thank you, t0ddddddday. a coach is unlikely because i can't afford one, and also to be honest because i wouldn't even know where to start looking for a decent track coach. i know an excellent strength/gymnastics coach (this guy: http://www.beastskills.com/) and a good oly lifting coach. both are friends. but no one who knows jack about sprinting or jumping. which is why this forum is great.

getting better at single-leg jumping is a secondary goal to being able to dunk. i'd be perfectly happy with a dunk off two feet, off a lob. that would count in my own judgment of myself, which at the end of the day is what i care about. and i'm much closer to that in any case. my guess, though, is that getting better at SL jumping would help the DLRVJ.

so, you'd recommend something like what i'd posted before, but with overhead shot throws, single leg bounding, pop-ups, run-throughs, standing single legs, 3-steps, etc.? i don't know what the bold ones are. tweaked program is below, with changes in bold where i remembered to do it. thursday is per the updated version i did after steven reminded me that i should squat more often. i made good gains about 6-8 months ago on multiple MSEM sessions per week.

MON: Gym - heavy legs (mainly quads, glutes)
- DLRVJ x5-15 depending on feeling
- Squats 3x3 @85% OR 2x3 MSEM @ 90-95%
- BSS 3x8
- Calf raise 3x20
- Hip thrust 3x10
- Core, UB superset/circuit as I've been doing them

TUES: Track
- ME sprints 3-6x30-50m
- DL bounds 4x8
- LLL RRR bounds submax 4-6x8-10
- low-volume interval sprints

WED: Rest OR optional Cardio
- light jump rope/foam roll/stretch
OR
- medium-volume interval sprints/foam roll/stretch

THURS: Gym (explosive exercises/hamstrings)
- SLRVJ drills (standing single leg, 3-step submax)
- DLRVJ x5-15 depending on feeling
- Jump squats 2x3
- squat 3x3 @85% OR 2x3 MSEM @ 90-95%
- RDL/GHR 3x8 (start really light, this is going to murder me at first)
- calf raise 3 x 20
- Core, UB superset/circuit as I've been doing them

FRI: Jumps
- 6+ of each jump (DLRVJ, SLRVJ, SVJ)

SAT: Rest OR optional Cardio
- light jump rope/foam roll/stretch
OR
- medium-volume interval sprints/foam roll/stretch

SUN: Jumps
- 6+ of each jump (more effort than Fri)

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: June 22, 2012, 04:29:02 pm »
how long will the holiday be?

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BW = 168
SORENESS = hamstrings
ACHES/INJURIES = none
FATIGUE = moderate to high

- warm up

- DSVJ x 10
pretty bad

- DLRVJ x 5
awful

- MR half tuck x 30,23,35

- jump squat 2 x 3 x 95

- squat 3 x 5 x 225
no wonkiness. yay.

- OHP 10+3+3+3+3 x 85

- chin up 10+3+3+3+3 x bw

- ab pull down 3 x 15

- stretch

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Kingfush
« on: June 20, 2012, 02:49:06 pm »
* will skip the jump drills during the deloads but will add more calf work. those kill the jumps anyway so might as well do more. want to make 17-18" cows. theres no such thing as too big of those too.


Odd question time....how large are your upper legs and is it a struggle for you to find pants that fit?  I ask because my legs are too big for most 36" waist pants and I'm sure your waist is considerably smaller & your legs more or less the same size as mine.

jumping in even though you didn't ask me because i have this problem. my solution is to buy a waist size up (32 instead of 30 -- i have a small waist) and have the waist taken in at a tailor. doesn't work as well for jeans because getting the waist taken in makes the pockets look funny, but for dress pants or khakis it's fine.

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Article & Video Discussion / Re: Triple BW
« on: June 20, 2012, 11:38:12 am »
Weak.

Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.


don't kill it by overusing it, raptor.

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Article & Video Discussion / Re: Triple BW
« on: June 20, 2012, 09:07:28 am »


Bounce or not, it's still a RAW ATG squat.
I wonder if his tricking actually contributed much to his vert.

that.

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So if someone wanted to increase his squat from 1xBW to 2.5xBW and his next plan is to do hypertrophy to gain some mass, which would be more muscle fibres to utilize. Would it be more wise to:

try increase your squat in the hypertrophy until you reach 2.5xBW

or

should the aim be increase muscle mass, which includes the squat but finish off when you have acquired enough mass and then move on to a strength training routine to carry on increasing your squat where you left of but instead of moving slowly like it was done during hypertrophy but with speed in mind.

or

is there another way because the aim is to increase squat and the hypertrophy workout is next.

lol.

7827
post video.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Kingfush
« on: June 19, 2012, 11:22:23 am »
stiffness = persistent effects of dehydration?

7829
I think it's time that someone took a stand to the overblowing of HIIT, which I agree has been overblown.



haha. way to be a pioneer in the crusade against HIIT. no one has ever taken up this cause before. thanks for stepping up.

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Article & Video Discussion / Re: Triple BW
« on: June 19, 2012, 11:19:37 am »
damn his legs got huge.

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