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800m+ Running and/or Conditioning / Re: Misc Running Videos
« on: October 19, 2017, 01:55:15 pm »
Levins was training with Mo Farah for a while. I'm not too sure why they still don't train together. Levins said he thought he was training hard but when he started training with Farah it was a reality check in terms of intensity.

https://spikes.iaaf.org/post/cam-levins-talks-about-training-with-mo-farah

Though his fellow athletes welcomed him warmly, when it came to training things were much less sympathetic. He remembers the first time he went on an “easy run” with Farah and Galen Rupp (who took 10,000m silver in London 2012).

“The last couple of miles were run in 5:15 or 5:20 and that was an easy run,” Levins recalls.  “I would never have thought to have even approach that pace for my easy runs.”

great find!

bleh:

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At SUU, his coach Erick Houle got him on a schedule that involved running up to three times a day and as many as 170 miles a week.

the next quote is:

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Gruelling, but it paid off. In his final year at Southern Utah he secured the NCAA 5,000m and 10,000m double and made the Olympic team for Canada.

his college coach got him addicted to the "crazy high mileage". Not sure how many miles per week Cam ran previously, but I seriously doubt it was 120+.

i'd love to know if they tried 2x/day first, with less total mileage, and gauged whether or not that was working, then moved to 3x/day / 170-190.



Salazar seems like a much better coach, just from this paragraph:

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Nutritionally, Levins also underwent a transformation. Out went the cookies, sweets and pizza; in came the granola and skimmed milk. He has also introduced daytime naps to prepare for the second session of the day.

The stuff about easy runs being low 5's is pretty crazy though. I've heard they are all over the place with that stuff.



Cam seemed to respond well to the lower overall volume, and higher quality work. I think he eventually got hurt working with Salazar/Oregon Project, and went back to his old college coach, and got hurt worse & slower.

From what I see, Cam is one of those guys who will do anything you tell him to do, and do it exactly the way you want. Incredible potential but, also extremely coachable.

I just really think his college coach set himself up for an unmaintainable mindset.. The way he trained, may work for a month, or a few months, but to engrain such a mindset for long term training, seems like a problem.

Achieving more with less should always be a primary focus .. why over work? It's like an algorithm, the best ones are efficient, achieve the result without doing any excess costly work. Finding that balance is important. The extremely high mileage coaches/athletes seem like they abandon that, and try to ride that for as long as possible but the mindset may never disappear ... "man i'm not working enough!! (at 130 miles a week, because it's not 170)" etc.

dno, 2cents.

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400m Sprinting or Shorter / Re: The Sprinter Physique Thread
« on: October 19, 2017, 07:21:10 am »

Jon Drummond



bodybuilders jelly of his hamstrings..  :o

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Nutrition & Supplementation / Re: Foods that bloat you, or wreck you
« on: October 18, 2017, 09:46:07 pm »
Posting here as well .. this is more like, training that wrecks your gut, and then your gut wrecks you.

http://www.adarq.org/800m-running-andor-conditioning/various-running-articles/msg136241/#msg136241

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800m+ Running and/or Conditioning / Re: Various Running Articles
« on: October 18, 2017, 09:45:44 pm »
decent read. i think my gut sometimes gets wrecked from the mileage/intensity i'm putting in .. this morning really showcased it, stomach felt completely "dead".. as if it couldn't do anything. Need to somehow figure out how to NEVER get that feeling.

https://www.runnersworld.co.uk/health/well-being/why-your-gut-health-is-vital-to-running-success

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: ADARQ's journal
« on: October 18, 2017, 08:47:43 pm »
What do you think about weightlifting gloves to help with the grip issue as well as for comfort/protection from calluses, primarily for deadlifting heavy weight.

ya gloves can definitely help. I personally don't use them, but, I have in the past on occasion, definitely help. Also, some people who talk sh*t on gloves, use tons of chalk .. chalk can also help.

I'd try to avoid using them when you can, ie for most lifts.. and only use them for certain lifts. You don't really need to lift with your bare hands, I mean there's no reason for it really, but it's still probably better to only use gloves when you need them, not for everything.


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If so would any glove do or are leather the best ones to have.

pc

not sure about the actual type of gloves.. i'd look and see what kind of gloves PL'rs are using, or crossfit people etc, or what the "rogue fitness" site sells, they usually have good equipment, just to get an idea of what kind of "top notch" gloves/equipment people are buying. I imagine leather gloves made for lifting will be the best.

my 2cents!

peace!

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: beast
« on: October 18, 2017, 08:38:29 pm »
it's not super beast, but beast nonetheless.. Chase has been putting in tons of high rep trap bar DL's lately. good set, probably close to 2 x BW for 21 reps.


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Basketball / Re: NBA 2017 - 2018 Season
« on: October 18, 2017, 01:58:24 pm »
^^ you forum like a "school girl".

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: ADARQ's journal
« on: October 18, 2017, 01:40:34 pm »
10/18/2017

bw = 140
- :wowthatwasnutswtf: :wowthatwasnutswtf:
- stomach felt really empty though
bw before bed = ?
soreness = none, quads dead, calves dead
aches/injuries = none
cramping = stomach feels a little wrecked but no cramping
morning quad flexibility = tight
morning hamstring flexibility = tight
feel = dead

wakeup = 5:30 AM

diet:
06:00 AM: black tea, grapefruit
07:00 AM: workout: light running
- too late! shit!
08:30 AM: 2 x 2% milk, water w/ lemon
09:30 AM: 2 x sweet potato saute in olive oil / salt / black pepper / some water / cane sugar, 2% milk, water w/ lemon
- really good but way too much food. stomach blew up.
12:00 PM: 2% milk, 2 x water
02:00 PM: workout: bw
- 3-sec paused dead hang ng pullups: BW x 10
-- good set
- full dips: BW x 10
- standing single, straight leg lifts: x 20
- standing single, straight leg abductions: x 20
- standing single leg calf raises: x 10
- leg lifts on dip bars: x 10
04:45 PM: whole foods: a bunch of orange chicken, mac & cheese, coconut water
- needed something quick/asap, was good AF.
08:00 PM: 2% milk, coconut water, avocado, some spent grain hearth bread
- between all of these meals today, stomach feels ready to explode... need to get it out of there.







stretch:
01:30 PM: some light quad/calf stretches
08:45 PM: soleus during dishes



leg drain:
09:30 PM: 20 min, instead of stretch



naps:
05:30: 1 hour .. knocked out.



workout: morning: very light 8 miles ~8:50mm-10:40mm, legs dead, stomach empty, no looking at watch

feel pretty dead.. it's a good thing today is light.



wrecked.

138 after run.. crazy.  :ibrunning:



TODO: more light stuff later probably

- dead. AELS/AERS/AETS.





Monthly Tracker: October 2017

October (10) 2017

TODO:
- 10/3
- 10/4

Bodyweight: [(01,147),(02,146),(03,146),(04,145),(05,146),(06,145),(07,143),(08,142),(09,146),(10,145),(11,145),(12,144),(13,144),(14,143),(15,143),(16,141),(17,142),(18,140)]
- FORMAT: (day, weight in lbs)

Total Jumps per leg: []
- FORMAT: (day, # of jumps per leg)
- per leg total: 190

Max SLRVJ Touch: []
- FORMAT: (day, touch height in ft'inches")
- L-SLRVJ:
- R-SLRVJ:

Total miles walked: [(2,5.5)]
- FORMAT: (day, miles walked)
- total: 5.5

Total walk time: [(2,01h:30m:00s]
- FORMAT: (day, total walking time in hh:mm:ss)
- total: 01h:30m:00s

Total speed interval distance: [(05,4000m),(05,8400m),(08,1480m),(10,4827m),(10,4000m)]
- FORMAT: (day, total speed interval distance in meters)
- total: 19107m

Max run speed (mph)/pace (min/mi): [(05,11.9,5:03),(05,11.9,5:05),(08,14.0,4:18),(13,14.0,4:18)]
- FORMAT: (day, mph max, pace max in minutes per mile)

Total jump rope time: []
- FORMAT: (day, minutes)
- total:

Total jump rope messups: []
- FORMAT: (day, # of mess ups)
- total:

Resting HR: [(2,20,40,35)]
- FORMAT: (day, minutes for this test, average hr, minimum hr)

PR's: []

Races: [(08,500m,20:14,20:02),(15,19:08,19:18)]
- FORMAT: (day, distance, official, watch)

Soreness: [(1,"slightly","calfs slightly - left more so"),(2,"slightly","calfs moderate, quads slightly"),(05,"none"),(06,"none"),(07,"none"),(08,"none"),(09,"none - calves tight slightly)"),(10,"none"),(11,"none"),(12,"none"),(13,"none"),(14,"none"),(15,"none"),(16,"left vmo barely, quads slightly, calves slightly"),(17,"none"),(18,"none")]
- FORMAT: (day, overall soreness, specifics)

Aches/Injuries: [(1,"left calf a bit tight"),(2,"none"),(05,"none"),(06,"left calf a little tight"),(07,"right ankle slightly - medial side"),(08,"none"),(09,"none"),(10,"none"),(11,"none"),(12,"none"),(13,"left hamstring tendon slightly, right hip slightly, left heel slightly, calves tight"),(14,"calves modertely tight"),(15,"left calf slightly tight"),(16,"left calf barely"),(17,"right hip slightly"),(18,"none, quads dead, calves dead")]
- FORMAT: (day, specifics)

Morning Quad Flexibility: [(1,"stiff"),(2,"loose"),(05,"loose"),(06,"loose"),(07,"loose"),(08,"loose"),(09,"loose"),(10,"loose"),(11,"loose"),(12,"loose"),(13,"loose"),(14,"loose"),(15,"loose"),(16,"loose"),(17,"loose"),(18,"tight")]
- FORMAT: (day, general flexibility)

Morning Hamstring Flexibility: [(1,"stiff"),(2,"loose),(05,"loose"),(06,"loose"),(07,"loose"),(08,"loose"),(09,"loose"),(10,"loose"),(11,"loose"),(12,"loose"),(13,"loose"),(14,"loose"),(15,"loose"),(16,"loose"),(17,"loose"),(18,"tight")]
- FORMAT: (day, general flexibility)

Cramping: [(06,"bloated up at night, messed up my running"),(07,"still lightly bloated from previous night, until I got it out after a long walk"),(08,"right stomach cramp during 5k race"),(09,"right abdominal/stomach area feels bloated/weird"),(10,"none"),(11,"none"),(12,"none"),(13,"none"),(14,"none"),(15,"none"),(16,"none"),(17,"during cooldown of morning workout - stomach cramps"),(18,"stomach feels a little wrecked but didnt cramp")]
- FORMAT: (day, symptom)

Wakeup: [(1,6:15AM,7), (2,10:00AM,9),(05,9:00AM,10),(06,6:00AM,7),(07,7:30AM,8.5),(08,5:00AM,6),(09,08:30AM,8.5),(10,06:30AM,8),(11,06:15 AM,7.5),(12,06:15 AM, 7.5),(13,05:40AM,7.5),(14,06:00AM,8),(15,05:00AM,7),(16,07:30AM,8),(17,06:00AM,8)(18,06:00 AM,7.5)]
- FORMAT: (day, wakeup time, hours slept)

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Party's Over!
« on: October 18, 2017, 11:56:11 am »
Bench-
barx12
60x12
80x6
100x4x3 Back up to benching 2 plates again for reps  ;D

Chin Ups (8kg attached)
7x3

Pull Ups
8

Track-
Need to stop being soo fkn lazy and get out and put in some fitness.

maybe do some really early morning workouts on the track? just nice and light tempo sprints, while the sun is coming up? Just wakeup early, get some fluids in, get out there, and enjoy the fresh air. there is just something about being out there so early as the current section of "earth" is "booting up".

to me, there's something very powerful in that setting.. feels very "clean" and "pure". LBSS kind of mentioned something about that too recently in his journal. I think just beyond the symbolism of it, there's also the (circadian) rhythm / human evolution side of it.

dno just a thought!

fwiw, training as the sun is setting feels great also.. those two opposite ends of the spectrum feel amazing to me.

peace!

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: 165
« on: October 18, 2017, 11:50:25 am »
BW: 88.6kg
Activity:
Misc: R knee
Diet Compliance: 12/12

Rest..

rest sessions need more thumbs up!! :ninja: :ninja:

i like seeing when people on here post "rest", instead of just letting it slip by.. obviously there's not much to post, but it's also kind of a good message to yourself, that resting is significant and important. I've been saying alot recently that "it's harder to rest than it is to train", which is the damn truth. It takes discipline to shut everything off for a day, recover, and come back stronger the next.. resting is harder than 1RM attempts :D

the sports "psychology" of it, is becoming more important to me.

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400m Sprinting or Shorter / Re: The Sprinter Physique Thread
« on: October 18, 2017, 11:45:31 am »
man HAA looks like an NFL running back.. HEH. Which is also a testament to NFL running backs, they are absolute monsters.

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800m+ Running and/or Conditioning / Re: Misc Running Videos
« on: October 18, 2017, 11:41:09 am »
3x per day just doesn't seem sane/sustainable to me.. Apparently Cam Levins really broke down too, tons of injuries etc.. He just seems way too addicted to the mileage, this video is disturbing to me :/

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMkUHM0eOZA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMkUHM0eOZA</a>

https://www.runnersworld.com/rt-web-exclusive/doubling-and-tripling-performance-incentives

man I really hate this video.. it's bothering me alot. dude ate 1 fucking motts applesauce after a 10 mile run, and yet he knows he has like 20+ more miles including a hard workout ahead of him.

what the fuck man.

fuck his coach & any1 around him who didn't smack the shit out of him. he's a damn beast but this video is a great example of training addiction.

that's why i force myself to take rest days... and drink milk (protein/fat) after runs etc.

his style just seems so disordered to me.. ie, maybe he could somehow survive on it when he was younger, but as he is aging, he is falling apart.

KENYAN'S DONT DO THAT SHIT. that's all i know. they eat good, sleep, nap, train 2-3x/day but alternate hard/light days.. And Bernard Lagat takes 1 day off per week, mandatory, with 5-6 weeks off per year after his season.

:pissed: :pissed: :pissed: :pissed:

The thing with Cam Levins is .. he'll probably figure this out a few years from now, when he's "too old", and still make a run at something or make another olympics.. just because he'll reduce the volume a bit and eat better etc.

I saw a quote from some olympic track chick today, forget who, but it said in her bio:

things I hate: junk miles

loved that..

Cam Levins is addicted to junk miles.

Furthermore, towards the end of the vid, interviewer asks him if he'd go harder at night on his ez run because of his bad track session, and he admitted yes.. Again, Kenyan runners wouldn't do that. So much discipline.. so you had a bad session, who gives a fuck.. plus they don't look at their watch on light runs etc.

hold me back. ffs.

I watched the video. I liked how they showed the bad parts and all the preparation that goes into training. It was funny when his physio was trying to explain about what he does with trying to get the tightness out of the muscles- more of an art than a science but I understood.

ya that was funny, typical s&c/physio magic. "I can't explain it to you, but I know it when I see it!". I'm personally wary of that kind of talk.

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Also the toe bleeds. I'm not surprised he's got toe bleeds when he's running 190 miles some weeks.

I wonder if he had been laying off track work, and decided to get in a session for the camera, so putting on his spikes wrecked him.

Just don't see how you could run 190 a week, BE INCREDIBLY FAST, and have toe issues like that pop up coincidentally on the day you're getting filmed.

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A marathon is 26.2 miles and Levin is running 190 miles a week- just insane. He's literally running a marathon every single day for some weeks.

it's impressive for sure, but he doesn't make it look appealing at all, in my opinion. He makes it look like a train wreck. I think for a guy like that, running a marathon worth of mileage per training day is absolutely no problem, but not if it's done 7 days a week. If he did that 5 days a week, to me that seems fine.. but 7 days? Just asking for trouble.

5 * 26 would have him at 130
5 * 30 would have him at 150

either of those seem fine to me, because it's the *5* that makes it work. He could do 10 miles in the morning, with warmup, speed work, cooldown, etc, then 16 miles light at night, hit his 26, then the next day go light and hit 13 in the morning, 13 at night, hit his 26, ... probably remain very healthy.

That "Nicolo" (el coyote loco) guy i posted a year back or so, got addicted to the mileage like Cam Levins and he got hurt. He fell off track completely. He was putting in 180-190 a week for a month, did a 5k race and wrecked his knee. He'd post videos of him just trying to get more junk miles in. That's when I realized these guys are nuts. They are trying to brute force their way to the top, instead of being more efficient.

TBH, it really bothers me. If they just toned it down a little bit, and had more rest days, these guys would probably be way better off. Why are they putting in more miles than Mo Farah, Kipchoge, etc? Do they really think that they are outworking everyone? Or are they really just digging themselves into a ditch? The story about some guy running 350+ miles a week is ridiculous.. You can go on strava and find people running 400+ miles per week - THEY RUN SLOW AS SHIT. It's impressive from one perspective, and ridiculous from another.

Everyone needs to learn from Bernard Lagat.. It's not his training that they should emulate, it's his dedication to "rest", "recovery", and long deload periods after the season. His longevity & consistency is so impressive. He mentions how runners he know, won't take a day off, that they think 1 day off will make them worse. This is a horrible mindset that permeates most of athletics.

Finally, the toe bleed stuff is emblematic of his mindset. Sure you're getting someone to film you, but fuck the rocky shit.. cut that session (and day) short & take care of yourself.

I guess I just see someone who "can't stop", "can't take a day off" .. and from my experience, and what i've seen online, that mindset always backfires eventually, because injuries creep in and force you to take months off.

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http://www.all-athletics.com/node/173097

I wonder what he does for speed work?

dno, lots of fast repeats from 200-1k I imagine. He's got some really strong ankles from some of those clips on the track: no heel touch in those spikes in alot of the footage, during km repeats. That's pretty major. He's got some serious speed, that's for sure.

peace!

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800m+ Running and/or Conditioning / Re: Misc Running Videos
« on: October 18, 2017, 11:17:19 am »
toe...midfoot...heel

yea, beautiful.

and he's the slowest of the pack.........  :trollface:

other two have different form, which is what makes it an extra cool clip. white shirt is more traditional midfoot, yellow socks/nikes is more heel->toe.

the guy with more forefoot runs most graceful though, that's for sure.. looks amazing.

yeah i meant that one is landing toe-first, one midfoot-first, one heel-first. all clearly elite.

ahhhhh.. nice, my bad. also, funny how the order of toe->midfoot->heel, describes the first runner's strike itself, hah.

exactly.

yup, such a great clip.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: ADARQ's journal
« on: October 18, 2017, 10:24:57 am »
word, think i'm gonna get myself a garmin for my birthday. now just need to figure out which one. don't want a smartwatch, do want something that tells me how fast i'm going, has an interval timer/stopwatch, and syncs easily with mapmyrun.

awesome. ya man you will love it. will make you want to run even more too, hehe.

it's cool in a race when everyone's watch beeps at basically the same time.. things are really accurate.

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Basketball / Re: NBA 2017 - 2018 Season
« on: October 18, 2017, 09:11:41 am »
Boston is going to run out of gas midseason without Hayward imo, just puts so much more pressure on tatum, brown and co when he's out. Marcus smart looks so tough this year, might be most improved player of the year.

But boston is still going to be tough, they still have morris that can fill in for hayward, who's prob done for the season tbh.....

Cavs are going to be tough but though people say lebron is still in his prime, i disagree. His skills/experience is at his prime, but his lateral speed is really not there like before.... his explosiveness is still there as well obv..... but lateral speed is so important on defense..... u can't always expect to make up for it with chase down blocks.....

Lebron definitely looked "older" last night, which is still nuts considering how good he played. But, that could be related to his ankle .. he could have been extra cautious. We'll see like 10 games in, but last night had me finally seeing some "aging". I personally hope it's just the ankle.

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