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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: deadlift start position vs squat
« on: August 08, 2012, 06:59:31 pm »
Quote from: steven-miller on August 08, 2012, 06:40:08 pm
I do not think that the height of a standard deadlift has anything special to it. But it has a larger ROM compared to the RDL and involves a mechanically harder position at the bottom. One might argue that deadlifts from a deficit are even better because they involve an even greater ROM. The optimal degree of the deficit for building lower back strength would be determined by individual anthropometry. The bar would be placed at the height that puts the hips on shoulder level, so that the back becomes horizontal to the ground. The lift would then start, from a dead stop, at the mechanically hardest position and would have the largest useful ROM, having the back angle go all the way from parallel to the ground to completely upright. For many people a standard height deadlift is actually not that far from that model and using bars with a diameter available everywhere is certainly convenient. But I am not saying that one arbitrarily determined diameter is optimal for everyones training. I just think that for lower back strength specifically a strong argument can be made in favor of the deadlift over the RDL. Whether the latter is superior in regards to athletic events less depending on a strong back I cannot comment on.


shortest wall of text i've ever seen, but still...


break up your paragraphs, b. more people would read what you write.

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: deadlift start position vs squat
« on: August 08, 2012, 04:55:14 pm »
lance:

my gym has 45 lb plates of three different heights, and also 20kg plates, which are slightly different. which plates should i use for maximum training effect?

sincerely,

hyperdunk1 and pointerryan

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Article & Video Discussion / for the throwers
« on: August 08, 2012, 01:44:42 pm »
Flander and UMThrower, I'm looking at you: http://deadspin.com/5932648/what-the-discus-can-teach-you-about-life-lessons-from-one-of-americas-greatest-throwers.

Cool read.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: August 08, 2012, 11:09:16 am »
two days is nothing, be patient. fat loss just seems to happen that way sometimes. see lyle's article, "of whooshes and squishy fat": http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/of-whooshes-and-squishy-fat.html.

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Article & Video Discussion / Re: Kettlebell Swing Science
« on: August 08, 2012, 10:49:38 am »
Quote from: Joel Smith on August 08, 2012, 09:13:01 am
I need to check out that home-made kettlebell article.  The second part of the article is up!

http://www.just-fly-sports.com/1/post/2012/08/maximizing-the-performance-of-the-kettlebell-swing.html#.UCJjY038u8A



fyi, this is the design ross uses: http://www.davedraper.com/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=PmWiki.T-Handle

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: funny / horrible training videos
« on: August 08, 2012, 10:21:06 am »
the citi girl at the beginning is hot.

edit: googled her. no she isn't.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« on: August 07, 2012, 08:15:15 pm »
BW = ???
SORENESS = traps (?)
ACHES/INJURIES = none
FATIGUE = low

- warm up
extra attention to shoulders

- pull up +10 x 10+3+3+2
got halfway up on the last rep. damn.

- dip +50 x 10+3+3+3

- KB swing 24kg x 10,10 | 32kg x 10

- stretch

included a bunch of SMR on shoulders throughout. lots of jump roping, too. had something of a breakthrough on running-in-place crossovers. i'm still slow but getting better. side-to-sides are better, too. and starting to be able to string a couple of double unders together and still get out of it. used to be if i did three in a row and tried to go right back into single unders i'd kick the rope every time. now it's 50/50. time to eat.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: on the toad to aesthetic greatness!
« on: August 07, 2012, 08:10:17 pm »
vid @185 didn't show up for me.

also, lol, toad.

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: 100m final london olympics 2012
« on: August 07, 2012, 01:04:19 pm »
Quote from: Mutumbo000 on August 06, 2012, 06:28:48 am
I was going for Tyson Gay. It's bad luck he only got 4th but he had an injury interrupted season and wasn't at his peak so it was always going to be difficult for him to win. I think USA are going to win the 4x100 if Asafa doesn't run though. At the US trials they had like 4 or 5 guys in the trial run sub 10. I think their team gonna be Gay, Gatlin, Bailey and Doc Paton.
I'm also looking heaps forward to the 200 and 400. In the 400 Steve Solomon qualifed for the final, which is the first time an Aussie male has run in a 400 olympic final in like 24 years.

i'd hate on him for finishing last, but no americans qualified for the final so i can't. USA #9!

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: 100m final london olympics 2012
« on: August 07, 2012, 01:03:14 pm »
Quote from: seifullaah73 on August 07, 2012, 11:12:40 am
Quote from: acole14 on August 05, 2012, 09:05:15 pm
Yeah I've always liked Asafa and his running style. I really wanted him to sneak up and get bronze over Gatlin and Gay. Hopefully he can reload for the WCs next year, but I can't see him ever beating Bolt or Blake now. Blake is the only threat to Usain but he's still metres away from him when Bolt turns it on.

Blake would be able to beat bolt if he is able to improve on his pb time up to 9.6.



hahaha, what? if you mean this the way it came across, it's the dumbest tautology i've read all day. NEWSFLASH: IF YOHAN BLAKE BECOMES FASTER THAN USAIN BOLT, HE WILL BE ABLE TO BEAT HIM IN A RACE.

also, are you not aware that blake has beaten bolt twice this year?

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« on: August 06, 2012, 10:22:40 pm »
BW = 171.8 motherfucker
SORENESS = none
ACHES/INJURIES = none
FATIGUE = moderate to high

- warm up

- DLRVJ x ~10
32-32.5, hanging on rim easily but not comfortably.

- MR half tuck x 40,25

- squat 310 x 2, 305 x 3+1+1+1
fuck me. it's at least partially mental, i'm just afraid of the weight or something and psych myself out. would help to have a training partner. i think once i get 315 x 3 x 5 i'll switch to an MSEM-based block. gotta eat and sleep.

- stretch

i didn't sleep enough last night because of work (again). that plus not eating at a surplus over the weekend meant failure on the squats. i'll do upper tomorrow and try squatting again on wednesday. out of town against this weekend.

on the other hand, i was super active this weekend: swimming, hiking/climbing, tennis. family reunion at a resort up in new york on the occasion of my step-grandmother's birthday. such a great time.

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ADARQ & LanceSTS - Q&A / Re: Hip thrusts instead of deadlifts during Starting Strength?
« on: August 06, 2012, 02:50:52 pm »
Quote from: Raptor on August 06, 2012, 02:49:17 pm
Quote from: LBSS on August 06, 2012, 09:49:04 am
Quote from: LanceSTS on August 05, 2012, 02:40:32 pm
Quote from: Raptor on August 05, 2012, 02:33:46 pm
I also wonder what would happen with a similar thread on Rippetoe's forum.

search "incorporating the half squat into an athletic program"

oh man, that takes me back. halcyon days, those were.

I didn't find anything, I need to answer "3 non random questions" to do a search and I said "fuck it, whatever".

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=incorporating+the+half+squat+into+an+athletic+program

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Amrs & legs lengths
« on: August 06, 2012, 02:48:51 pm »
Quote from: T0ddday on August 03, 2012, 07:56:16 pm
Quote from: hyperdunk1 on August 03, 2012, 09:17:11 am
is it better for your leg to be longer above the knees or below the knees as a jumper?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22090004

do you have the full paper? was it CMJ or running vertical?

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Article & Video Discussion / Re: Short vid on how Oscar Pistorius prosthetics work.
« on: August 06, 2012, 02:45:30 pm »
Quote from: Zetz on August 06, 2012, 01:47:43 pm
I was wondering when you'd show up with that article. Same one you had posted before. What I'm wondering is why he's still running if the evidence is so conclusive as they say. USATF and IAAF are organizations that disqualify people from running over too much caffeine. It's not something they take lightly. If they really do give him that big of an advantage, and it's been shown in research, why are they still letting him run?

hell if i know why they are, but there was pretty obviously a political decision to ignore the main thrust of weyand's and bundle's findings. maybe they figured he'd be good for the sport financially.

Quote from: Science of Sport
There is the argument that the CAS-proceeding determined a very narrow approach to the scientific question, which had really only one goal - to disprove the IAAF's findings.  In other words, the CAS process was not interested in the entire truth, but only in evaluating the evidence gathered by the IAAF.  And there's no question that the IAAF started off with a very narrow research question.

By extension, Pistorius' scientific team were interested only in the "truth" that would, among other things, eventually see them add distance runners to the control group until Pistorius looked similar to able-bodied athletes.  Effectively, the previous research had "set the bar" and they jumped over it, using the methods I explained yesterday.  A narrow finding got even narrower, and the whole truth did not emerge when it could have.  In all this, there was reason to suggest an advantage but the scientists did not make it known at the time, even if it was only for the purposes of debate.

Taking this into account, and adding in the fact that the research to clear Pistorius had very obvious omissions and false comparisons with distance runners when they knew what the sprinter-comparison would have revealed, you start to see that things really were not what they appeared to be with this "independent scientific process".  You may make up your own minds about what it means when scientists selectively leave out able-bodied sprinters and compare a sprinter to distance runners?  Or what it means when scientists recognize the possible advantage but fail to mention it at a hearing on advantages?  It strikes me as strange at best, manipulative bordering on dishonest at worst.

right-o.

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When the time comes that he's actually a concern for a medal or even finals, then I'll be worried about it. So far he isn't really affecting anything with his times, so I don't see why it should be such a big concern.

are you serious? he's doing something fundamentally different from what able-bodied runners are doing. seems a bit ridiculous to say that he should be allowed to compete until he gets faster at the thing he's doing than they are at what they're doing. you could race a motorcycle against a boat, but if the motorcycle won you wouldn't call it the faster of two boats.

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Program Review / Re: crossfit
« on: August 06, 2012, 01:50:10 pm »
paleo dieting is already a crossfit thing. i turn into a tangle of sputtering rage when i overhear people discussing their paleo diets. at this point, when it comes up, i usually say something like, "oh, yeah, i don't really want to get into it." if i start to actually talk about it, i can't stop myself before phrases like "deeply stupid" and "brain-meltingly idiotic" start rolling out.

interesting to wonder what the next fad will be. i'd be surprised if it were a paleo exercise thing like mouvement naturale, because crossfit has already absorbed that kind of stuff into itself (POSE running, bear crawls during warm-up, FiveFingers and Inov8 shoes), and from where i sit all that seems to be on the wane in the crossmunity. everyone is more interested in olympic lifting than parkour or even gymnastics. actually, i wouldn't be surprised to see an explosion in the number of people focusing exclusively on oly lifting. it'd be cool if that were the next fad. lots of work for the very few qualified coaches. and maybe we'll be good again on a world level in a few years.

also, you might be right about IF. has all the hallmarks of an appealing fad to exceptionalist rich white people. only problem with leangains is that martin berkhan is a sexually insecure 11-year-old boy.

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