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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: August 07, 2014, 11:40:37 pm »
haha, true.  Im prob just gna get 1 pair, they are excluded from 20% off when i get the pair deal. I hate this site so much.



Also hyperdunks 2014 look so damn sexy but they dont have my size (12.5). It's possible i cud get away with 12 but i dont wanna take that chance :(  $129 btw

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: August 07, 2014, 10:57:38 pm »
I'm looking to order some stuff of eastbay with the 20% off on $200 order deal. Usually regret most of my nondescript online shopping decisions, so i'm looking for input before I put the order through lol



Spefically does it make any sense to get 3/4 length compression gear? I have no idea why you'd want those compared to full length ones? Better get 2 pairs of full length insteaad? idk.

Also need basketball shoes but my last 3 pairs have been shit so im reluctant to drop  $130-150 on a pair of kd 7s or something or nike zooms and then regret it. my ideal shoe is lightweight, flexible, low top and not stupidly expensive. recommendations or suggetions welcome...

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Not really but it's a valid statement when it comes to teh way my body has stored bodyfat. Women store bodyfat mainly in the lower body, around the hips, lower back, buttocks and chest. That's kinda how I do too. It explains why i  have visible abs so early in my cuts. The idea is i'll have a six pac long before im done cutting because of this. Lets see if it holds true.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: August 07, 2014, 09:09:49 am »
@chisM, coges, entropy:
Good points and discussion.

It was really insightful for me too. I finally realised why i have had a 4pac for so long even though im so overweight - like even 15-20kg overweight my abs were popping thru. It's a symptom of  having female fat storage pattern, means i will have a sixpac long before im done cutting - becuase the stubborn fat is around hips, buttocks and thighs. Never realised that til now but now it makes so much sense. Its the same problem female bbs have - they'll have ripped upper body and abs but still be fat below the waist.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: August 07, 2014, 07:09:43 am »
I hurt my back backsquatting (again). Fuck that shit. Idk why im hurting myself with such a light weight but it is what it is. It's just after the sticking point or around there. So i can't really walk right now. It means i cudnt do any conditioning today even tho it wuda been good to get a session of HIIT sprints and jogging in today!

I've decided to do a carb reload tonight. Only because if i dont do it today, i have to wait til monday when i train again, and that might be too long. Plus it will mean an especially painful training sesh on monday being so woefully depleted. This probably helps me do another week of cutting without getting too fucked up mentally. So lets do it! :)

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: August 07, 2014, 12:38:32 am »
What i was getting at is that we sometimes think we're getting weaker but all it is, is a lack of adequate rest. This is especially the case while dieting because we can't train the same as we're used to. Coupled with not looking like you lift when you are cutting (carb depleted muscles, loss of IMTG etc) you can easily convince yourself you've got to stop cutting because you're losing muscle/strength when these are just illusions.

I dont think it's realistic that most people overestimate their cutting duration. If anything most are likely  to say, im too skinny now, better stop cutting, even those those are just artefacts of diets that you will look and feel small/weak especially on the tail end of a longer cut. For example, i'd love to tell myself, damn, i'm 78kg, better stop cutting, im probably at least 10% bodyfat now! But in reality i know i have enough cutting ahead of me that it would be a mistake to end cutting. It's okay and good to take breaks between stints of dieting. Last time i made the mistake of cutting too long - this time i'm taking a much more cavalier approach, bigger deficits to get thing out of the way asap. I'll be taking diet breaks in between to avoid problems with prolonged dieting (mood, hormones, etc).

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: August 06, 2014, 11:35:06 pm »
In my personal experience I've been guilty of swinging too much on this. I've been around the 12% and wanted to cut further and then the next week when I'm cutting and losing strength and muscle I freak out and start going back the other way. It's a great recipe for going round in circles.

Easy to explain this coges. The first thing is when you're cutting serously you'll eventually start to burn off IMTG fat. This is the good fat that sits inside muscle, intramuscular triglyceride. This makes muscles look flat, lifeless and empty. So you think oh noes, im losing muscle, better panic and stop cutting. No, that's just an overreaction. The 2nd thing is, prolonged dieting will eventually fuck you up in terms of over-training. So being smart about it, knowing when to layoff the cardio (which for some reason we always wanna do on a cut but it might not be necessary on a decent caloric deficit). Training  2x a week might be the sweet spot. Train hard, but reduce frequency.  Give your body enough days to rest between sessions. 

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / chasing athleticism -- W2D2
« on: August 06, 2014, 11:15:30 pm »
Bodyweight: 77.95kg/171.85lb
Waist: Under 33"



On the right track but im not too excited, 77kg is still a legit, formidable goal. I have no doubt if i get there i'll in a good place. Just not anywhere near it right now. Training to come today as well.

Training
FBS 1x118.5
BS 5x107.5, 5x105

OHP 1x57.5, 3x55, 5x53.5, 5x52.5
WCU 3x80, 2x90, 1x95, 2x100, 3x95, 5x92.5, 5x90, 6x85

Squat notes: 
Having to psyche up for ridiculous light warmup weights sucks, especially when they feel like ugly 1rms and not even technical maxes for that matter. But i'm quite carb depleted, fasted and been dieting a while. These things are to be expected. Just hope i can bounce out this slump when i come off the cut.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: August 06, 2014, 10:32:41 pm »
Vag if your legs are lean and your upper back hasn't got much fat left that's one thing. Men pattern fat storage is back (upper and lower) and belly. So you prob have typical male storage unless you have typical woman storage. I have bitch storage, my ass is still fat lols. My point was be like spielberg, cut cut cut, till there in no doubt you are at an athletic bodyfat of 10%. Then clean bulk and keep a tight watch on bodyweight.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: August 06, 2014, 05:08:55 am »
Vag if you haven't got a visible 4 pac yet then you're prob over 17.5%. My guess is high teens. I would say clear 4pac is consistent with 15% or so in weight training individuals, not necessarily even below it for that matter.



^this isn't a bad visual guide

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: August 05, 2014, 11:48:08 pm »
My bet is it'll be 74kg but hopefully you can achieve 12% at 77kg.
Maybe your body's different though but for me I struggle to lose 1% bodyfat for every 1kg of weight loss, let alone 3% bodyfat for 1kg.

Yeah,  im not married to 12% @ 77kg, more like i'm going to end this cut at 77kg when i've reached that weight regardless of what bodyfat % may be then. It's a measurable, concrete goal as opposed to bodyfat % which is abstract and unmeasurable for the purposes of progress tracking. I do anticipate a future cut needing to go as low as 72.5kg to reach my final goal, so we'll see what happens when i've got to 77.5kg, 75kg and 72.5kg.  For the record my plan is to finish this cut at 77kg. Maybe the next one will go 77->74. And the last one will go 74->72.5 or something like that.



lebron right now .. inspiration for athletic cutters everywhere <3

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: August 05, 2014, 11:01:20 pm »
Bodyweight: 78.7kg/173.5lb
Waist: 33"

caffeine:400mg @10am, 200mg @ 1230, 200mg @ 1430, 200mg @ 1700
h5tp: 50mg @ 1300, 50mg @1500

Laying off training is helping considerably, i no longer want to kill myself. Don't get me wrong, still pretty hard going but a lot more manageable, i can see me dieting for a while longer this way. Have set my eyes on getting down to 77kg. Have a feeling when i get there, i'll be reasonable lean as in maybe 12% or less. Idk, we'll see how it goes.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / chasing athleticism -- W2D1
« on: August 04, 2014, 05:51:09 am »
Bodyweight:   80kg/176lb
Fasted duration: 24hrs (ended 2010)

Training
FS 3x100, 2x112.5

BP 2x80, 1x85, 1x87.5, 5x77.5, 6x75
CRLZ 3x40, 5x45, 6x42.5, 6x40
DUNZ 2x3  (cant even grip the ball right now haha - have to use both hands to dunk)

Weak AF.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: August 04, 2014, 04:21:33 am »
. On the other hand I just don't see why you wouldn't just losen up a little bit and clean bulk since this whole bulk/cut business is going around in circles. 

That's exactly what im gonna do lol. Burn off all this bodyfat and then start from scratch.  Gain back some bodyweight, some muscle, some nice fat (as opposed to horrible visceral or abdominal fat!) and maintain a decent level of fitness and athleticism. I'm not going to gain more than 5kg of BW at a time and even that will be done slowly and cleanly.

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Btw there's no way in hell that you're 'in the mid-teens bodyfat'...Even if you were in the mid teens bodyfat at 6'4 80kg you're only going to end up skinnyfat with this insistence on cutting down to a stick figure on 1000 calories a day. Find some middle ground and you'll feel a lot better mentally as well instead of feeling guilty about eating food. Plus all this stress with dieting and bodyfat is going to increase your cortisol, which has a destructive effect on testosterone.

I actually am somewhere around 15%. I can't be sure whether it's less or more, the visceral fat still being there points to being above, but maybe im a special snowflake and i hold on to visceral fat for longer than most people, idk, it doesn't matter, i have to keep cutting. Gett rid of all this fat and start rebuilding myself from scratch.

The effect of holding on to this fat means i can never really be strong/lean/healthy. Visceral fat does some nasty things, makes you fatter when you bulk etc. Also it doesn't help t-levels not being lean (legit 10%). So i have to do this cutting for the best results moving forward.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: August 03, 2014, 11:06:11 pm »
I'm wondering if i've just been going thru ketosis adaptation? May be just a phase and I shud just keep cuting. I like the idea of finishing this cut at a lean 77kg which means the next one will be from 77->.74 or whatever it will need to be for 6-8% bodyfat. This prob means though that im currently closer to 20% than i am to 10% or in otherwords above 15%. I think around 77kg is when i start to look lean if i remember correctly from last year's cut.

But to keep cutting from here will have to make some changes. I'll take it easier on training. Think i'll do something like this:

Monday: Squats + HIIT sprint intervals + steady state jog (about 2km), upper body work

Weds: upper body work and steady state jog

Fri: Squats +  HIIT sprint intervals + steady state jog.

Take off rest days proper, no TM work on those days to save my legs and hips. And this shud allow me to continue cutting bodyfat while extending the duration of the cut to say another 2 weeks if need be. My goal is to get the scale to show 77.5kg or so, which means even if i gain a bit of water weight post-cut, i can balance that out by burning off the remaining visceral bodyfat to maintain a 77kg ish bodyweight overall.

Btw the fact i still have visceral fat is one very good reason to believe im curently above mid teens bodyfat. Both good news and bad. Means i can get a lot lighter. But bad news in that have a lot of cutting ahead yet.

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