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Anyway, I dont like talking about steroids period, I dont condone it and I dont believe its necessary in any sport other than bodybuilding..  Ive said this every time this subject comes up, but there are 1000x more frat boys in your local gym JUICED TO THE GILLS, weak as dogshit, and good at absolutely no form of anything resembling athleticism, than there are elite or good athletes on drugs.

Amen!.

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I thought winstrol made your tendons brittle?.

If that is the case, a sprinter will never reach his full potential, far from it.



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I guess they use it more for training recovery and strength gains (while training). During the competition they might use some stuff that can't be detected.

But the thing is, those guys don't even look like they lift. If they both walked down the street towards me I wouldn't associate them with lifting weights (even light weights).

So we go back....

What are the anabolic steroids, HGH, t3 and t4 improving in terms of sprint speed?, if where to say these guys aren't lifting heavy loads?.

Recovery? OK, but there are natural methods that are very effective, ice baths, massage, good sleep patterns etc.

I'm sure we will get too a point in this thread where people's logic is flawed. It'll come blu.



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I HOPE bolt isn't juiced, but i also don't really think he is juiced.. he could have used ped's during his down period between 400m and 100m, but nothing has been proven.. alot of his teammates get busted but he remains clean.. he'd have to fail something or have some people close to him start throwing out accusations, none of which has happened.

casey combest is a "spring" who is extremely strong.. has nothing to do with his physique.. he just has insane bounce, sure he could have been on juice but no one has come out saying he was, he didn't fail anything, etc.. you can't get that kind of bounce with juice, it's natural ability.

I'm in total agreement. Good post.


Appearance means nothing. Heaps of skinny looking soccer players have tested positive for various anabolic steroids.

Anabolic steroids other than testosterone are pretty easily detected now and athletes have shifted towards using a cocktail of testosterone, HGH, insulin and thyroid hormones which unfortunately are almost almost undetectable. HGH can so far only be detected in blood which is not tested outside of competition. Athletes can use HGH all off season without having to worry. Testosterone testing is based on a ratio of testosterone to epitestosterone. Take moderate doses and keep yourself under 4:1 and again, no worry with testing. Insulin cannot be tested for at all and testing for t3 and t4 is extremely rudimentary. Sprinters and other more general athletes are also using EPO to improve endurance and recovery.

WADA aren't even particularly coy about how easy it is to work around the testing:
http://articles.latimes.com/2007/dec/15/science/sci-baseball15

Dwain Chambers was taking HGH, testosterone, insulin and T3 while being tested multiple times over more than a year and none of it was detected. That's how useless the testing is.

Fair points but soccer players are planets apart from elite track speed. You might get a couple running 10.2, it's a planet.


Right, lets say Casey Combest & Christophe Lemaitre are on the juice (specifically a mixture of anabolic steroids, HGH, t3 and t4).

What are the anabolic steroids, HGH, t3 and t4 improving in terms of sprint speed?. I associate those drugs with building muscle.  Combest & Lemaitre don't have big muscles. So, what are those drugs doing to aid the skinny guys?. How/what are they gaining from usage?.

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The reason I ask is, I'm not going to be building muscle if peoples' perception of being juiced relates solely to mass/bulk which leads to almost certain guilt of juice use.

Take into account, there deadlifting, squatting, bench, strength #'s etc aren't great?.

Bolt's #'s aren't great.

Quote from: Usain Bolt


Very interesting.



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Again, even with Christophe Lemaitre, considering how skinny he is.













Why would people believe he was juiced?. I need to get into people's thought processes here.

Is the juice (Lemaitre's on) creating greater strength gains (look at the pic) or is the juice creating greater power gains?.

i.e. the pics state he doesn't lift much, so does the juice automatically create greater limb speeds (power)?. The more juice, the greater one can generate greater limb speeds without doing anything?.


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Who here believes Casey Combest was on the juice throughout his time in the 100m?.

If so, what makes you believe that?.

I find it interesting that nobody thinks Casey Combest was juiced?.

Would that observation/realisation be based more towards his body type (ectomorph) as opposed to a more endomorph/muscular body type?.

If Bruce Lee was a sprinter, with the way his body is developed, would you say he would have been juiced?.





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Hey Lyle...


Olympic 100m hero Usain Bolt powered by chicken nuggets and yams.
 
By Damien Fletcher And Jeremy Armstrong In Beijing 18/08/2008.


Original Link: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2008/08/18/olympic-100m-hero-usain-bolt-powered-by-chicken-nuggets-and-yams-115875-20702431/


The secret weapon behind sprint sensation Usain Bolt's incredible Olympic 100metres triumph has been revealed as . . . a diet of chicken nuggets and yams.

Bolt became the fastest human ever when he won gold smashing his own world record in an unforgettable showboating performance.

Jamaican Bolt, 21, was so far ahead of his rivals he coolly slowed up in the last 30 metres, looked over his shoulder and beat his chest Tarzan-style before crossing the line.

And experts were last asking how fast the man dubbed Lightning Bolt could run if he decided to go hell-for-leather until the finish line.

After the race Bolt gave the credit for his incredible stamina not to a scientific high-protein regime meticulously planned by a team of dieticians - but plenty of chicken nuggets.

He said: "I woke around 11am and decided to watch some TV and had some nuggets.

"Then I slept for a couple of hours more. Then I got some more nuggets and came to the track." Bolt's diet is typical of his laidback attitude summed up by the slogan on his nation's yellow and green strip that reads "Jamaica - No Problem."

As the athletes lined up for Saturday's 100metres, most looked tense.

But the reggae-loving Bolt did a little dance then fired an imaginary arrow into the crowd as his name was announced.

He said afterwards: "I like to to do that for the crowd. I just love dancing.

"You have to enjoy yourself to stay relaxed. When I made that gesture going over the line, I was just having fun. That is just me. I didn't even know I'd beaten the record until after the lap of honour."

Millions watched Bolt's triumph on TV. And no one was cheering him on harder than dad Wellesley back home in the quiet village of Sherwood Content. Yesterday proud Wellesley insisted his son's path to gold had been powered by a regular diet of yams when he was a boy.

He said Bolt, who is also hoping for Olympic gold in the 200metres and the 100 metres relay, loved the starchy vegetable as a child and insisted it helped build up his 6ft 5ins frame.

Wellesley insists he had no doubt his son would triumph in Beijing on Saturday. He said: "Once he got going I knew they were not gonna catch him."

Experts are convinced Bolt will dominate sprinting for a decade - and believe he will run even faster than the 9.69 that shaved three hundredths of a second off his previous world record.

Scott Drawer, UK Sport's head of research, said: "Usain has a very different body to that of traditional 100m sprinters. It's rare to see someone so tall.

"It means he is a lot slower out of the blocks but once he is up to speed his long legs and his superior stride length is a very important factor that gives him a major advantage. He's got a huge amount of natural talent and you could tell he could have run even faster in that race.

"It remains to be seen how many more tenths of a second he will shave off his own record. It's hard to say just how fast he can go."

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If they are saying you are 5-8% year round, that's enough to know they are inaccurate. Pro bodybuilders can't even stay 5% year round on tons of drugs.

Come on man, your comparing my lifestyle to the caloric intake/training of a bodybuilder.

Seriously now.

I guess the drugs can't negate the effects of massive caloric consumption/too small amount of cardio activity.

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Do you have any links/sources which suggest of inaccuracies?.

Where are you pulling the %'s from?.

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Put on some muscle and see if you can maintain 5% bf ;)

For me personally, relative strength/bodyweight-power ratio is where it's at, maintaining BW & developing the CNS rather than building bulk.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: ADARQ's journal
« on: March 29, 2011, 08:14:42 pm »
my waffles make my heel sink, the forefoot is 'elevated', to keep you on more of your mid/forefoot when sprinting etc..
pC.

Interesting concept.

I like that. Thankyou.

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What height/weight? And are those 5-8% internet-bodyfat or real bodyfat?

6' 0", around 160 lbs. I use body fat calipers to test.

Building for power.

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oh and dude you should go read up a little on dieting.

Maintaining 5-8% BF all year round.

I'm aight.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: ADARQ's journal
« on: March 29, 2011, 01:04:07 pm »
do these reps look amazingly easy in terms of bar speed and how i'm just handling the weight? lightest 225 ever felt to me..

adarqui, What is the reason for placing your heels on two plates while you squat?.


But wouldn't the high rep squatting have negative effects on the nervous system and also the tendons? Although you are getting a lot stronger, you're nervous system is getting murdered thus leading to over training.

Why do you believe it negatively affects the tendons?.

How would that happen?.

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