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http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/adding-muscle-while-losing-fat-qa.html

Quote from: lyle
Which is why a lot of the approaches advocated for ‘gaining muscle while losing fat’ aren’t very effective.  In fact, I’d tend to argue that most people’s attempts to achieve the above results in them simply spinning their wheels, making no progress towards either goal.  Because invariably they set up a situation where neither training nor diet is optimized for either fat loss or muscle gain.  Calories are too high for fat loss and too low to support muscle gains and outside of that one overfat beginner situation, the physiology simply isn’t going to readily allow what they want to happen to happen.

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But none of those approaches generate a muscle gain to equal the fat loss, at best they generate a small muscle gain in the face of a much larger fat loss (e.g. someone might lose a lot of fat while gaining a pound or two of muscle or what have you).  But for the non-beginner/non-returning from a layoff trainee that’s about the best you’re going to get.  Potential rates of muscle gain are never going to approach the potential rate of fat loss once folks are past the beginner stage.  Even in the beginner stage, it’s generally always easier to lose fat much faster than you can gain muscle.

So the idea of replacing every pound of lost fat with exactly one pound of muscle will be essentially impossible for the intermediate/advanced trainee.  There’s simply not enough fat/the fat cells dont want to ‘give up their calories’ and the ability to stimulate rapid muscle gains isn’t there any more.

Alan Aragon in the comments:

Quote from: Alan Aragon
The level of aggressiveness of the method of surplus or deficit depends on the individual’s goals & current status. Some folks don’t necessarily care about not getting significanty fatter while bulking, but a good portion of my clientele wants to (or in some cases, like actors & models) need to look good all year round. Thus the alternation of looking somewhat chubby while bulking before leaning down really isn’t an option. On the other hand, I think that people in general think I’m opposed to putting on any fat at all while bulking, or they think I’m not into the idea of separate cutting or bulking cycles, which isn’t true. With some clients, I choose a very specific & aggressive focus. For example, I’m building a plan for a natural BBing champ that’s specifically geared toward off-season gains. After that phase is done, it’s cutting time. With others, it’s more of the culking/recomp scenario involving less agressive surpluses or deficits. Not everyone gets the same treatment, because everyone is at a different place in their development, and people’s goals/objectives differ. One thing I want to get clear is that I’m not opposed to traditional cutting & bulking alternation, it’s actually best for some, and I do go that route with certain client cases that it’s well suited for. And I don’t disagree that the culking effect happens to a more pronounced degree in beginners with more fat to lose & more muscle to gain.

someone else in the comments apparently did a weekly cycle, with 500kcal surpluses every day for a week, and 500kcal deficits every day for a week. seemed to like it.

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IMHO you should do a dedicated cut first, a la entropy, and then bulk. less complicated, less constant guessing about whether you're replacing fat with LBM while the scale isn't moving.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: October 31, 2012, 06:11:32 pm »


Also did a few bodyweight squats wearing the PowerPerfect II's:


told you so.

 :derp:

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: THE DREAM JOURNAL
« on: October 31, 2012, 01:23:46 pm »
last night i dreamed that the clippers signed me as an undrafted free agent, sometime in the middle of the season. it was a surprise to be picked up because i'm not that great at basketball, but in my first game i played pretty well in limited minutes: i think i was 2/3 from the floor for 4 points (two 15-footers) and a couple of assists, no TOs. no memories of playing defense but presumably i was not great. i'm only 5-11, after all, with short arms.

after the game i went out to a bar but when i got there i realized i didn't have my driver's license, so i couldn't get in. i went home and while i was looking through my mail i realized i hadn't gotten my game check. in fact, i wasn't even sure how much money i had signed for.

later, still in the dream, i saw on facebook that my brother was making really cool, very intricate sculptures out of sculpy, and i decided to try to do the same. it was hard.

the end.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: October 31, 2012, 01:00:20 pm »
for the record, i was definitely joking.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: October 31, 2012, 11:41:49 am »
the only pure exercise is the snatch. all other exercises are unclean to some degree.

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 :almostascoolasnyancat:

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Hey just wondering, i've been doign weighted pull ups for a while now, and was wondering if i should do weighted chin ups instead or something. I'm doing it 2x a week currently. will be changing my routine from 3x a week to 2x a week, probably getting bench press and pullups on one workout and then shoulder press and chinups/pullups on another.

thoughts?

cheers

depends. want more work for your biceps and don't want to do curls, or just pulling more weight cause it makes you feel like a badass*? go with chin-ups. want more work for your back, or working towards doing a muscle-up? go with pull-ups.

but if you just want general work for your upper body with no particular goal in mind, D4 is right. it doesn't really matter.

*no judgment, it feels cooler to use more weight and you're not really likely to hurt yourself doing it.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: October 30, 2012, 03:30:18 pm »
it'll come back.

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Basketball / Re: A WHOLE BUNCH OF DUNKS AND SHIT.
« on: October 30, 2012, 03:29:34 pm »
First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the socialists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they started a really fucking stupid argument on the internet,
and I didn't speak out because why bother?

Then the argument took over what was once a good thread,
and I got pissed and said "shut up."

Martin Niemöller

FTFY.

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Basketball / Re: A WHOLE BUNCH OF DUNKS AND SHIT.
« on: October 30, 2012, 12:21:43 pm »
THIS IS THE DUMBEST ARGUMENT IN THE HISTORY OF ADARQ.ORG.

hyperdunk, you're right, russell westbrook has crazy hops! vag, you're right, gerald green has crazy hops...even though he's tall! everyone, you're right, listed heights for basketball players are often inaccurate! stop the fucking presses!

now all of you shut up and get back to posting videos of people jumping higher than any of us can.

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Nutrition & Supplementation / Re: protein powder
« on: October 30, 2012, 10:32:44 am »
super-grade WPC from truenutrition is $7.39/lb, so 10 lbs plus shipping is $88.33. 24g protein, 2.5g fat.

i don't know why i'm defending them to you, if you can find a better deal somewhere else for a product you like, bully for you.

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Nutrition & Supplementation / Re: protein powder
« on: October 30, 2012, 08:54:52 am »
custom blend, 100% high-grade WPC, no additives, vanilla flavor, $5.99/lb. with shipping, for 10 lbs that comes to about $75.

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A Con Edison power station exploding last night in downtown Manhattan:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAqYZ433TeQ" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAqYZ433TeQ</a>

 :wowthatwasnutswtf:

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super cool moving graphic of winds across the US: http://hint.fm/wind/

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