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Article & Video Discussion / New muscle found in quad
« on: February 25, 2016, 03:00:58 pm »
We don't have quads. We have quints.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26732825

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The quadriceps femoris is traditionally described as a muscle group composed of the rectus femoris and the three vasti. However, clinical experience and investigations of anatomical specimens are not consistent with the textbook description. We have found a second tensor-like muscle between the vastus lateralis (VL) and the vastus intermedius (VI), hereafter named the tensor VI (TVI). The aim of this study was to clarify whether this intervening muscle was a variation of the VL or the VI, or a separate head of the extensor apparatus. Twenty-six cadaveric lower limbs were investigated. The architecture of the quadriceps femoris was examined with special attention to innervation and vascularization patterns. All muscle components were traced from origin to insertion and their affiliations were determined. A TVI was found in all dissections. It was supplied by independent muscular and vascular branches of the femoral nerve and lateral circumflex femoral artery. Further distally, the TVI combined with an aponeurosis merging separately into the quadriceps tendon and inserting on the medial aspect of the patella. Four morphological types of TVI were distinguished: Independent-type (11/26), VI-type (6/26), VL-type (5/26), and Common-type (4/26). This study demonstrated that the quadriceps femoris is architecturally different from previous descriptions: there is an additional muscle belly between the VI and VL, which cannot be clearly assigned to the former or the latter. Distal exposure shows that this muscle belly becomes its own aponeurosis, which continues distally as part of the quadriceps tendon. Clin. Anat. 29:256-263, 2016. © 2015 Wiley Periodicals, Inc.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: February 25, 2016, 11:38:59 am »
Pretty cool. I think it's a good way to increase GPP, and it's nice that the supersets don't interfere with each other. Only cardio would interfere with the second of the supersetted exercises I guess, but you get better at that. I was thinking I wanted to try something like that in my training to cut workout times. How long do your workouts typically last?

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: February 25, 2016, 09:56:31 am »
vag how long do you generally rest between sets of squats and the other lifts? wondering how you do it with supersets.

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Pics, Videos, & Links / 5'11 College player, head near rim
« on: February 24, 2016, 10:30:55 am »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZN0wwJyO_g" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZN0wwJyO_g</a>

At 6'0 with shoes on, that's a 48" RVJ

first angle makes it look lower than rim level
pause at 0:22 and it looks so much higher i thought it was a different dunk

i think we can agree on at least 45" running in that vid

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Dreyth's New Journal
« on: February 24, 2016, 09:54:26 am »
Week 100
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Tuesday - 02/23/16

-= Workout Log =-

Weighted Pull ups
BW x 5                      >> 60sec rests.
+20lbs x 3
+40lbs x 10 PR
+40lbs x 3 PR
+35lbs x 4 PR
+30lbs x 4 PR
+25lbs x 4 PR

Lateral Raises
35's x 3                             >> 60sec rests.
35's x 2                             >> Can't exactly remember how all the weights and reps went, but the first 3 sets are correct for sure.
40's x 1
45's x 8 PR
45's x 6 PR
40's x 8 PR
40's x 5 PR
35's x 5 PR

Cable Rows
170 x 5                          >> 60sec rests.
190 x 1                          >> I can't remember and I'm too lazy to go back and see what my PR's here are (at my gym not others).
210 x 10               >> So from this point forth, anything that beats this will be labeled as a PR.
210 x 6
190 x 8
190 x 6
190 x 5

Ab Pulldowns
95 x 5                >> 60sec rests.
150 x 15 PR
150 x 8 PR
150 x 8 PR

Incline Rear Delt W Flyes
25's x 5                  >> 60sec rests.
30's x 1
35's x 10 PR
35's x 6 PR
35's x 5 PR

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Dreyth's New Journal
« on: February 23, 2016, 05:09:53 pm »
^^ I should mention that I felt my pain at the very bottom of my kneecap.

Also, it could be that your patellar tendonitis isn't caused by maltracking like mine was, but by something else instead. You'll have to find out what it is.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Dreyth's New Journal
« on: February 23, 2016, 02:21:40 pm »
hey man, am i correct in thinking you had some problems with quad tenodnitis?

how did you get around it in the end?

I had patellar tendonitis. I'll try to make this as simple as possible.

The problem:
- Patellar maltracking. Aka my knee cap was shifted over laterally a bit.
- This was caused by too much tension on the lateral side, and too litte tension on the medial side to counter it.
- The effect of this is that the top of the tibia scrapes the cartilage under the knee cap since the tibia it's not fitting in the "under socket" of the kneecap perfectly.

The solution:
- Relieve tension on the lateral side by foam rolling the IT band
- Increase tension on the medial side by activating VMO and strengthening it

Longer explanation:
Relieving the tension on one side is simple. However, increasing tension on the other side was pretty cool to do. During the time I had tendonitis, I was squatting to parallel. As you know, this doesn't activate the VMO very much. What does activate it, however, is either extreme of the range of motion. So this means things like peterson step ups (http://www.jumpusa.com/PetersonStepup.jpg) and ATG squats.

Unfortunately, peterson step ups caused some pain in my knee. To mitigate this, I would foam roll my IT bands a ton before performing them. This made them nearly pain free. I also switched from parallel to ATG squats to further strengthen my VMOs. After this switch I noticed my VMO's getting crazy sore for the first few workouts, but nothing from the peterson step ups. I ditched the peterson step ups since I found them not effective enough.

But this part was damn interesting... I needed to ACTIVATE my VMO first! Take a look at this vid of my quads. My LEFT knee was the painful one. My right knee was okay. Notice how the left quad flexes all at once, but in the right quad, the VMO flexes just before the rest of the quad!

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2neCEbA6Pw" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2neCEbA6Pw</a>

On the RIGHT quad (the okay one) the VMO contracts first, stabalizing the knee, and then the rest of the quad contracts.

This tells me the VMO on the left quad was a bit under active. Anyway, I learned (forgot where I read this) that the best way to change movement patterns are using NEGATIVE lifts. So what I would do before I played basketball was foam roll the IT band, and then perform negative knee extensions beforehand on my left quad. Then I could play pain free, temporarily (for as long as the effect lasted).

Over time, as I continued to foam roll the IT band, the effect became permanent. Also, my VMO's got strong as hell from the ATG squats. Finally.... see the vid I just posted? Well, once my pain was all gone, and still to this day, when I flex my left quad now, the VMO will contract just before the rest of the quad, just like my right quad!

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How did I miss that shrimp thread? Just read it all now. Lmfao.

I miss a lot of those members.

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saw journal title and came in to tell you it's awesome lol

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Dreyth's New Journal
« on: February 23, 2016, 10:39:51 am »
Week 100
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Monday - 02/22/16
198.2lbs

-= Workout Log =-

ATG Squat
135 x 8                                >> 2min rest.
135 x 5                                >> 395x3 wasn't too hard. Decent bar speed.
185 x 5                                >> Had another rep in me on the first back up set but didn't go for it.
185 x 3
225 x 3
275 x 1
315 x 1
365 x 1
395 x 3
325 x 8
325 x 5
325 x 3

Bench Press
45 x 15                               >> 2min rest.
95 x 8                                 >> Finally hit two triples at 245!
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 1
245 x 3
245 x 3 PR
205 x 6
205 x 5
205 x 4

Incline DB Bench Press
75's x 10                       >> 60sec rest.
75's x 4

Romanian Deadlift
225 x 5                           
275 x 3                           >> Hamstrings still sore from last week so this is all I did. Really gotta get em back.

Calf Raise Machine
420 x 5                            >> 60sec rests.
465 x 15 PR                       >> These felt pretty easy. Machine was broken last week but fixed now.
465 x 8 PR                          >> I'm wondering if they lubed it up or something.
465 x 8 PR                          >> I'm close to maxing out this machine dammit. Will switch to smith machine soon.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUBf7S-RS8k" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUBf7S-RS8k</a>

I think I went an inch wider than usual. Makes my squat look a little more shallow... or is it just me? Bar speed was pretty good, especially on the back up sets. Even though it's an 8 rep set (high-ish reps), I still try to put 100% effort into lifting it as if its a 3RM. Intended bar speed is key. That last rep absolutely destroyed me. Doesn't look like it at all though. I usually experience a very sharp drop off in strength. Watching the vid make it look like I had another 4 reps in me. Really I had 1.

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News, Announcements, & Suggestions / Re: table function?
« on: February 22, 2016, 02:17:47 pm »
Hm yea that link works! Looking at all those tags makes me realize it'll be pretty cumbersome to use though. Sometimes I do more sets on an exercise so copying the same table isn't enough. I may have to edit and it'll get annoying.

Now if the tab key worked... that would pretty much solve everything neatly. Make it like a 5 space tab or something. Boom everything aligns.



i'll paste an excel table though when im not too lazy  :huh:

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Kingfush
« on: February 22, 2016, 12:40:21 pm »
That gym's crazy! Never understood the point of all that fanciness though, especially since those gyms tend to NOT have many very useful things like a freakin squat rack. Well hey I guess it makes some chains lots of money!

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News, Announcements, & Suggestions / table function?
« on: February 22, 2016, 12:38:29 pm »
Is there a way to line up text perfectly in a comment? Basically a table without table borders.

if this could be implemented it would make organizing logs very easy. especially if i decide to log my food and macro intake.

sure i could use excel and then post a screenshot, but it's a lot easier to have the format done just once in a post and then quote it and edit the numbers for the next post

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^^ Did you feel a mechanical block in the front of your ankles before increasing their flexibility though?

The band pulls the tibia away... but what about when you squat without the band? Will there no longer be a mechanical block somehow?

Going to give this stuff a shot.

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Basically you use a resistance band to pull the tibia/fibula posteriorly while dorsiflexing, creating more space in the front of the joint, this allows you to get past the block and actually stretch then Soleus/gastroc

Will this help me when squatting and not having a resistance band doing that for me? In other words, does this have a lasting effect on getting past the mechanical block?

I can stretch my calves if I want. But when I squat, I never feel a stretch in them. Not even close. That makes me think calf flexibility is not what's limiting my ankle dorsiflexion.

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