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thanks man. i wish i knew less about addiction than i did. he's alive and we can't really ask for more than that.

oh yeah, that makes sense. 

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKvxMFRawfc" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKvxMFRawfc</a>

 

mozgov should just give up at this point and start handing out posters of himself crying in the bathroom.

When I was comparing the styles of jump I was actually reffering to this:

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if you want to talk about movement patterns, kingfish's SVJ's are more like a low-bar squat. he leans way over. so do i, although i don't get nearly as high. look:

vs comparing your SQUAT styles. I was comparing your JUMPING styles.

From what I understand, you were comparing your squat styles lower in your post (and what you quoted).

The revelance of ball in hand is that he can't armswing his arms from back to forward-up like you can... that might alter the way he jumps (maybe with the ball in hand he has more weight in front of him, loading the quads more like in a front squat).

ah, my mistake. points taken.

Shit. I'd mostly forgotten about that. It would certainly explain why I had no energy/fire/whatever. I FELT fine but it very well may have still been affecting me. Thanks LBSS.

ahahaha, you wrote about the concussion IN THE SAME POST that you complained about the workout sucking. maybe it was worse than you thought. 

glad to help. 

i've read the pendlay article KF linked to (here in case someone changes the link at the top of the forum: http://www.rookiejournal.com/low-bar-squats-for-olympic-weightlifters-are-usually-not-a-good-idea.html). i hear what he and t0ddday are saying. but i am stubborn and remain unconvinced that switching to high-bar would make a significant difference for me. the pendlay article is about olympic lifters. the main point he makes is that for oly lifters the positional carryover is much better for HB, and the LB squats can fuck you up if you're trying to get better at clean and jerk. he admits that HB squats tend to bias toward quad dominance, which is not advantageous for jumpers and sprinters, who need hamstring strength. and says, at the end:

I also think the HB vs LB controversy has less meaning than has been assigned to it... for example, one certainly can squat with the bar in a low position and still do a pretty upright, deep squat, that as far as body position would satisfy any Olympic lifting coach. One can also do a HB squat and get quite bent over, I have personally proven that many times! Simply changing the position of the bar on the back doesnt magically change a good exercise to a bad one, or vice versa.

in my squats i situate the bar lower on my shoulders and have some forward lean, but still manage to get pretty well below parallel and to avoid shooting my hips (most of the time). if you want to talk about movement patterns, kingfish's SVJ's are more like a low-bar squat. he leans way over. so do i, although i don't get nearly as high. look:

lbss SVJ:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkGWtN9Kwpc" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkGWtN9Kwpc</a>

kingfish SVJ:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDScwmqe1kk" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDScwmqe1kk</a>

lbss squat:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMx2gx0EvWc" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMx2gx0EvWc</a>

kingfish squat:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozdetncWM7U" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozdetncWM7U</a>

kingfish's squat is obviously deeper, more upright and with a farther-forward knee position than mine. but i fail to see why, as a general training exercise, HB would be better. people with much more knowledge than i have say it would be -- who am i to question glenn pendlay or fred hatfield -- and i'm willing to try the switch just to see. i guess my brain is just struggling with the fact that i've yet to see someone explain WHY HB would have better carryover than LB to anything other than the oly lifts.

interesting points which require more thought when i am fed. initial thoughts: the kipping pull ups comparison has the tempting ring of verisimilitude but i'm not sure i buy it. again, will consider more later.

i had thought to bound on a bball court (it's hardwood, fwiw) but will stay away if you say so.

WEIGHT: 180
SORENESS: none
ACHES/INJURIES: none
MENTAL STATE: a bit down, distracted going into the workout but fine once i started warming up

- warm up

- ME broad jump x 4

- SVJ x 7
bad

- squat 315 x 5,5,5
PR tie, i'm pretty sure. whatever.

- push press 95 x 5,5

- S1: DB RDL 140 x 8
- S1: DB row 70 x 8
- S1 info: 2 rounds, 30s rest or less

- stretch

it was humid as shit in the warm up room. the walls were wet. got some vid of OH squat, which i did before starting my normal squat warm ups. ugly but just wanted to try it out. i'm mobility-deficient all over the place and i have some ideas about where specifically to work on based on this vid and how the squats felt, but input's appreciated as always.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eao3mL_-M3M" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eao3mL_-M3M</a>