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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: December 18, 2020, 06:56:01 am »
17 December

Long slow run 15K @ 1:37:20 ( 6:29 pace )
:personal-record: :ibrunning: :personal-record: :ibrunning: :personal-record: :ibrunning:

Longest I've ever done was 14K@1:37:00 (6:55 pace )
Fastest I've ever done was 12K@1:21:10 (6:44 pace )

Best part was how easy it was, pretty fresh at the end. Definite level up.
Gotta do a half marathon now that Im in good shape for it. Not time trial, just complete the damn 21.2K.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: December 16, 2020, 07:06:22 am »
15 December

Easy run 10K @ 58:50

Even better than last time. This was not fast-easy, this was easy-easy.
By far the easiest sub-60 10K i could ever imagine, same for the first 5K 28:45 split, easy AF.
Awesome!



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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: December 15, 2020, 04:31:07 am »
14 December

ATG PAUSED SQUAT:
BW @ 15
25kg @ 6x10 ( -10 reps per set ) , ( +1 set ) , ( +slow tempo )
-Those 20 rep sets were highly annoying. Switched to 10 reps but slow, tempo was 1:1:1 , now it is 3:2:1.
Felt like the change was worth it. Same set duration, much less annoying, better form,  feeling the difficulty is more muscular (previously it felt like fighting with fatigue).

SS1a : PUSHUPS :  18, 18, 18, 4x15 ( + 3 reps for 3rd set )
SS1b : BENT OVER ROWS : 25 kg @  18, 18, 18, 4x15 ( + 3 reps for 3rd set )
SS1 info : 7 rounds

Nice.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: December 14, 2020, 03:47:31 am »
12 December

'Speed form' workout

2K warmup
8x400m @ 95%
2K cooldown

Total 8K @ 55:11

Nice, some further improvements:
Got mostly 1:35 (3:58 pace) like last time, but this time also i got two 1:30 sprints (3:45) while slowest (which with the standard course i do always lines up to be the all uphill 7th one) was 1:40 vs 1:50 last time.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: December 11, 2020, 01:02:58 pm »
11 December

Long(ish) slow run 11K @ 1:14:40

It's been about 10 days that i am knee-pain free, so decided to gradually add volume again.
This went extremely well.  I went slow even for 'long slow' , almost boring, including a couple of stops for pictures, yet i got 6:48 average, that is insane fast for how slow i went.
I guess weather helped a lot too, i went mid-day, sunny 15'C and 60% humidity.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« on: December 11, 2020, 12:56:27 pm »
Happy birthday!
Congratulations of still going up so well.
But mainly extra congratulations for being, if i am not mistaken , the only one that does what brought us all in here, training for and practicing vert!!!!
:highfive: :almostascoolasnyancat:  :headbang: :ibjumping:

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: December 10, 2020, 07:39:17 am »
Thanks!  ;D

9 December

C1a : STIFF LEG DEADLIFT : 25kg @ 15
C1b : OVERHEAD PRESS: 25kg @ 15 ( +3 reps per set )  / UPRIGHT ROWS : 25kg @ 12 ( +2 reps per set )
C1c : BICEP CURLS : 25g @ 10 ( better form/ROM )
C1d : CHAIR TRICEP DIPS x 15 ( +3 reps per set )
C1 info : 8 rounds

Again, C1b was OHP in the first 4 rounds and upright rows in the next 4.
Good progress 2nd time in a row.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: December 09, 2020, 07:02:29 am »
8 December

Easy run 10K @ 58:05

Bringing easy run to sub-60' 10K would be awesome, should happen in about a month or so.

Bam , dat prophecy! Exactly one month later it happened.

Very very happy, that is a huge milestone, the sub-60 10K routine easy run is no joke for me.
It was true 'easy' run, maybe on the fast side of easy but still easy. Never felt tired, pretty fresh at the end, picked up the 9th (all uphill ) km to see my reserves and did 5:23 without it being even close to max. Weather was not ideal either, it was night, semi-wet road, 10 Celsium degrees and 90% humidity.
Also i am now seeing the effect of long(er) runs. 5K seems such a small distance and 25-30 minutes such a small duration.
I am really curious to see how i would handle my reserves in a 5K all out race. Pity i cant.

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800m+ Running and/or Conditioning / Re: The Misc Running News Thread
« on: December 09, 2020, 06:49:43 am »
The Pegasus2 Turbo that i am currently using are probably the same shoe,  minus the carbon plate. Ill tell you, they are amazing. The other day, trying to figure out if they are responsible for my knee pain, i went out for a normal run in my race shoes ( Adidas Takumi Sen 5 ). I was shocked, they used to feel somewhat cushioned in the past, before the Nikes, now they felt like they don't have any cushion at all, like i was running barefoot.
This Nike ZoomX cushion is amazing, it fells like a mushy plush cloud when walking, actually feeling a little unstable too. But when you push, it somehow turns into a firm responsive stable and fast AF feel. Also pretty lightweight for that quantity of cushion. Not as much as the Takumis ( 230g vs 170g ) but still lightweight.
I bought the Nikes as an everyday versatile trainer, well cushioned to handle long runs but also fast for the intense days. But right now I would really be torn which of them to use in a 10K race.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: December 08, 2020, 05:23:13 am »
7 December

ATG PAUSED SQUAT:
BW @ 15
25kg @ 5x20

SS1a : PUSHUPS :  18, 18, 5x15 ( + 3 reps for first 2 sets )
SS1b : BENT OVER ROWS : 25 kg @  18, 18 , 5x15 ( + 3 reps for first 2 sets )
SS1 info : 7 rounds

Exhausting workout. It reminds me of t0ddddays GPP,  2 minute long sets bringing HR to ~150 , total duration little less than an hour.
Tbh, I am not really enjoying this. It is very tiring and low-weight-high-rep is not my thing . But it feels like it is a very good all around workout and i cant do anything else anyway.

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800m+ Running and/or Conditioning / Re: The Misc Running News Thread
« on: December 08, 2020, 05:11:29 am »
Ohhhh don't say that to the shoe maniac, want me to spend 250 euros for shoes i dont really need?

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/dec/06/kibiwott-kandie-breaks-58-minutes-for-half-marathon-wearing-new-shoe-technology

And they are adidas too, although they don't have my beloved boost. It seems that the foam is not so important in the top series, the carbon plates(Nike)/rods(Adidas) do all the job.

Adizeros:




Vaporflys:


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That was an awesome read.  I am surprised to how many points in there i totally relate to!
FWIW i think it is not cowardice for sure. And i am not being coward to accept i am coward ( ta daaaaa! ).
If I had to pick a words that bashes what you (we) do , i would chose selfish, self-indulgent, maybe some generic mild form of hedonism.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: December 07, 2020, 04:06:45 am »
Thanks Andrew , it was very nice indeed!
Still angry i didn't rest more for that 800m, i would have done so much better! The 800m PR pace is actually slower than the 1K PR lol.

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800m+ Running and/or Conditioning / Re: The Misc Running News Thread
« on: December 07, 2020, 04:02:48 am »
Incredible!!!
BTW , 58 minutes half marathon is  2:45 average pace! For 21 consecutive KMs.
Or if you prefer, 4 consecutive 5K runs at around 13:45
That was the 5K WR in the 50s.
That is faster than the current women 5K WR.
If the woman WR holder started her run together right when they completed 16K, and repeated her WR run, she would finish last ,15 seconds or so behind!!!!!

I will never ever get over the awe that those conversions cause. :o

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: December 06, 2020, 04:50:52 am »
5 December

'Milk gains' session  ;D

2K Warmup

1K TIME TRIAL : 3:52 ,  :personal-record: , previous was 3:56

5 minutes walking rest

800M TIME TRIAL : 3:25 ,  :personal-record: , previous was 3:30

8 minutes walking/slow jogging rest, dead.

400M TIME TRIAL : 1:18 ,  :personal-record: , previous was 1:20

3 minutes walking rest

2*400M @ 90 %

2K cool down

Total 9K @ 1:02:13

The 1K & 800M PRs were mixed uphill and downhill. The 400m PR was all downhill. about 15m descent, so was the previous PR.
Should have rested more after the 1K , 5 minutes  were not even close to full recovery, I could have done much better at the 800m. Oh well.
Delighted!!!!

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