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not sure about the time differences & can't even contemplate it atm, brain is mush about to pass out. that said:

have a great race tomorrow (Friday) man!! don't worry about anything, you're in much better shape than the last 5k you did. just crush it & tell us the good news in the PR thread :D

:ibrunning: :ibrunning: :ibrunning: :highfive:

thanks, was good haha

692
21-03-18

Workout

Run -- 4.75mi in 46:54

Threw in like 5 strides.

Notes

Worst run ever! Felt totally dead, called it short because of this. Clearly am not at all recovered from Sunday yet. Focus now is making sure I am by Friday. Blarg.

~50% of this run was done on grass, at least, which was nice.

Don't know why this should be so much worse than Monday's run. Eep.

Edit: as day goes on upper and and more sore. This probably contributed to crappy run, but my legs also felt wrecked so it's not just that

sux but, don't worry about it. just a sign you need more recovery. it's probably a good thing that your body shut you down & you ended the run early .. another day of rest, then boom Friday crush it. sometimes sh*t run days really help hah.

Yup, trying to stay optimistic! Not like any running I could do this week would result in fitness gains by Friday anyway. Best thing is big rest.  :headbang:

693
21-03-18

Workout

Run -- 4.75mi in 46:54

Threw in like 5 strides.

Notes

Worst run ever! Felt totally dead, called it short because of this. Clearly am not at all recovered from Sunday yet. Focus now is making sure I am by Friday. Blarg.

~50% of this run was done on grass, at least, which was nice.

Don't know why this should be so much worse than Monday's run. Eep.

Edit: as day goes on upper and and more sore. This probably contributed to crappy run, but my legs also felt wrecked so it's not just that

694
20-03-18

Workout

SS1A: ng chins
SS1B: pushups

SS2A: kb ohp @ 16kg
SS2B: kb row @ 24kg

Notes

CBA to track exactly what was done, but 4 sets near to failure on everything. Legs still sore/tired so thought it best to give running a rest. Should be trying to do this workout 2xWeek i think.

Did the rows unsupported "chinese weightlifter" style. That + 1 arm OHPs is probably good core work. Chins make my abs pretty sore too when I'm not doing them regular. Sturdy core probably useful for running.

Probably another 60-70 min run tomorrow at an easy pace, distance will be decided by what pace feels easy. Thursday will play by ear, maybe 30 mins very easy. Want to be fresh for race, of course.

695
19-03-18

Workout

Run -- 6.04mi in 57:24

Notes

Super slow, avg 9:30/mi with one slower than 10:00. Somewhat sore and obvs fatigued from yesterday so no worries. Didn't check my watch during the run and just tried to keep it super chill. HR stayed in the 130s basically the whole time.

It was really cold (1C/33F) and really windy. Didn't realise that it would be windy so didn't have my jacket on. Big mistake, haha!

Ankle/achilles holding up well after yesterday, so this might be the week I go above 30mi.

killing it.

thanks!  :headbang: :highfive:

696
18-03-18

Workout

Run - 9.45mi in 1:13:09



Notes

That was great. Maintaining that ~7:45 pace was pretty easy. Same sort of pace as that long run a few weeks ago with fast friends, but way lower effort. HR stayed in the mid 160s, with miles 1 and 3 being in the 150s. Obviously went up for mile 9, when I throw down the hammer a little bit. Very pleased that after 8 fairly fast miles I had enough left in my legs to throw down 1 mile at a pace faster than my average pace from my last 5k race. Going to crush my PR this Friday. Going to have no problems with 1hr40m with the half too.

This run was done before breakfast, too.

Just easy runs between now and Friday, and a couple of rest days. Friday I'm gonna do the adarq thing and go for a moderate run after the race, too.

The first ~6 miles of this run were through muddy, snow covered fields, which was great. Low impact time off of pavements, for once, is great, but felt slowed down at times by mud and slippy ice.

Oh, it was freezing again. When I got home my shoelaces had frozen!!!  :wowthatwasnutswtf: :wowthatwasnutswtf: :wowthatwasnutswtf:

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Crazy Weird Analysis & Stuff :) / Re: The Resting Heart Rate Thread
« on: March 16, 2018, 04:44:25 am »
the garmin wrist HR monitor is useless. just ignore it.

idk if in general they are so bad, some of DCRainmaker's reviews of the newer ones have them holding up pretty well compared to chest straps. Adarq's is clearly totally messed up, unfortunately; his HR on runs on strava also tend to look pretty nonsense.

698
16-03-18

Workout

Run -- 4.15mi in 36:44

Notes

Legs feel fairly fatigued, so this is the sort of day I would usually rest. Filming and travelling all day tmrw for another TV quiz thing so didn't want to stress to fit in a run tmrw so ran today. Felt pretty flat, but turned out to be decent. Cadence was higher than usual and pace was reasonable for the level of effort, so I'm pretty happy with this.

Didn't look at watch until like mile 2.5 or so.

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I still think you're running too fast on your easy runs. You're probably running nearer your, like, half-marathon-marathon pace, and I get the impression that doing that for all your runs can definitely wear you out. I'm not an expert here at all, though.

700
15-03-18

Workout

Run -- 8.40mi in 1:13:23

5.25 easy, 2@HM (7:34, 7:33 [7:19, 7:25 GAP]), rest easy/cooldown

Notes

Runs have been a little crummy recently. Hadn't slept well most of this week until last night, so I'll just chalk it up to that.

I quite like structuring tempo-ish work this way. There's no resting in this workout, it's just run easy for a while, then try to hit that race pace for ~15 mins. Then back to easy running. Feels like a good way to simulate hitting those paces on tired legs (even easy running 5mi is going to tire my legs out a bit).

Ankle feeling decent.

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800m+ Running and/or Conditioning / Re: Running Quotes
« on: March 14, 2018, 09:17:56 am »
The training haiku by Michael Joyner (scientist who published the paper in 1991 claiming a sub 1:58 marathon was possible):

Run a lot of miles
Some faster than your race pace
Rest once in a while

702
14-03-18

Workout

Run -- ~6mi in 53:12

Notes

Really bothers me how my watch gets all messed up on the run to the park on this route, even though it's then totally fine on the return. Otherwise a chill slow run. All feels good and in place. 8mi tmrw?

703
13-03-18

Workout

Various sets of NG chins, pushups and KB OHP@16kg

Notes

Went to physio to talk about ankle/achilles stuff, he said a lot of interesting stuff that made sense to me. Will write it up later -- still good to run 4-5x week, just have to some more prehab stuff more conscientiously.

Edit:

So basically about 8 years ago I totally fucked up my right ankle and it has had way less flexibility than my left since then and I never really did much to remedy that. Unsurprisingly that's caused issues. Surprisingly my right glute is nowadays basically asleep, as far as the physio could tell. I had kind of experinced this when I was lifting more last year, but figured it was a more subtle diff - left glute would get more sore, etc., but soreness could be pretty asymmetrical in lots of places so I never really thoughts much about it.

He had me do some one footed balancing stuff and pointed out something pretty interesting that I would have never noticed. Balance on left foot is obviously better than right, though I had always figured this was just b/c i'm left footed/handed in general. He pointed out to me, though, that when I balance on my left foot my toes are totally relaxed, but that when I balance on my right foot my toes are gripping the floor like mad. Basically because my right calf and glute are weak everything else in the area has to take over to keep stuff in check, and obviously all those little bits and pieces are not as strong/stable/capable of keeping hip-knee-ankle organisation solid, so injury is possible. Plan is simple: glute activiation daily, especially before running, and work frequently on (right) ankle flexibility and calf strength.

704
11-03-18

Workout

Run -- 7.55mi in 1:04:53

4 easy, 2@HM, 1.55 easy

Notes

[left column is actual pace, right column is "grade adjusted pace"]





Decent but not great run. Evening rather than morning. Just feel sluggish. Ate several hours before running but still could feel some gastric bother towards the end of the run. I guess if it's a heavy meal it takes a properly long time before one is really in condition to run. Also had spent most of the day on my feet, so I guess there was a bit of fatigue.

The HM pace (~7:30/mile) is basically what I need to run sub 1:40 so I thought I'd try out what it feels like. Was harder than I expected -- felt a lot more like those sub 7 paces from last Sunday, I guess because of mediocre conditions. I was also running into what felt like a fairly strong headwind, and the hood of my rain jacket acted like a parachute, lol.

Anyway, enough whining! Got good miles with some good quality work in there too. Achilles feeling fine, too. All is looking good going forward.

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Perhaps against my better judgment I have signed up for the Edinburgh Half Marathon on the 27th of May. My two pals from the hard 10 mile run are running the full marathon that day, too.

that's a big step!! I know for sure you can complete a half, not sure if you can complete one at some goal pace consistently throughout .. but by May 27th, you should be able to for sure, especially if you keep getting in some long runs with those guys who are doing the marathon.

Just no burgers & grease shortly before the runs, lulzuzluz.

pretty cool tho man!! halfs are long! but alot slower, so kind of enjoyable .. mine was mostly enjoyable until mile 10. lol. but that probably has more to do with training...... I've done 10 mile long runs at consistent paces, but not much more than that. So, body is probably just programmed to relax after 10. Need to fix that ASAP. March 24th coming up soon :D

excited to watch you train for that. maybe do a few 5k's in between? one or two in april, maybe another in early May. Staying "race fresh", even if it's a shorter distance, really helps.

peace!!!!!

Yeah I have no worries about completing it, I'm sure I could go out and run one right now, given I've finished several 10 mile runs without issue. My provisional goal time is sub 1:40. This calculator https://runsmartproject.com/calculator/ puts sub 1:40 as equal to a 21:47 5k, so it seems pretty doable with training to get used to that sort of distance/length of effort.

Haven't put much thought into how I'll train for it yet. Main thing will just be getting minor injuries under control so that I can build up to like 40 miles a week consistently by then. Get a couple of runs longer than half distance in, too ,probably. That, plus a few Parkruns to keep sharpness and some more tempo runs is probably all I'll plan for it.

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