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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: January 31, 2019, 05:57:12 pm »
Missed training yesterday. Got busy then got lazy.

Outside of actual training I've been a bit slack with my other goals. Eating has been pretty much all over the place as has sleep, language learning, etc. Going to start daily tracking of goals maxent style as that definitely brings some more focus to it. Going to run this for the month of Feb then reassess. Goals are as follows:

Weight-
Current: 93
Goal: 88
Food- Directly related to the above obviously
Current: Everything
Goal: No sugar/No alcohol (only drank on 4 or 5 days of Jan but still feel better without it)
Waking time-
Current: random
Goal: 4.30am every morning changing this to waking with alarm as I don't need to wake at the same time every day.
Cantonese study-
Current: random
Goal: min 15 mins per day


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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: 2019 Vert Comp
« on: January 31, 2019, 05:40:10 pm »
OP updated as it's the 1st of Feb here. I'm going to test properly next week to get a full baseline.

Might be worth some others doing the same :ninja:

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: January 29, 2019, 05:58:32 pm »
29/01/19

7.30pm

Seated GM- sets of 10- bar, 30, 40, 50, 50
L-Sit- 10s x 5

BW Ring Dips- 4, 5, 5
BW Ring Rows- 8, 8, 6

30/01/19

5am

Tank (Sled) 10 sets of 25m
Setting 1 +150kg, 3 +150, 4 +150, 4 +175, 4 + 200, 4 +220, 4 +240, 4 +260, 4 +280, 4 +300
Split Squat- 10 sets of 5 per leg
bw, 12kg, 16, 20, 25, 30, 35, 40, 48, 48

The above included farmers walks of about 30m each way to and from the DB rack between sets.

10 min stretching and done.


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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: January 28, 2019, 05:55:28 pm »
24/01/19

No training- missed my session

25/01/19

AM
Tank Drives (sled)- up (push) and back (pull)
Setting 2 +150kg- twice in 58s
Setting 2 +200kg- up and back
Setting 4 +200kg- up and back

Hack Squat-
10 x 10, 15 x 10, 20 x 5, 20 x 5, 20 x 7

GHR-
bw x 7, 6, 7

PM- Yesterday's session

Circuit 1-
J Curl- 10 x 5, 20 x 5, 25 x 5, 30 x 5, 35 x 5
Standing QL Raise- 10 x 5, 16 x 5, 20 x 5, 20 x 5, 20 x 5
Leg Raises- Not sure I can call these leg raises. This sucked completely. Was aiming for 5x5.

Circuit 2-
Cross bench pullover- 12.5 x 10, 10
Trap 3 raise- 5 x 5, 5
DB Ext rotation- 5 x 5, 5


28/01/19

Circuit- 5 rounds
Tank backwards drag - setting 2 +120kg - 60m
Reverse Step up- heel down- 5" box- sets of 15- bar, +30, +40, +50, +60
Seated Tib Raise- sets of 30- +15, +17.5, +20, +20, +20

Usain Bolt HF Cable Pull in- 20lb x 20, 40lb x 20, 40lb x 20
(Cable attached to foot- leaning against support facing away and explosively pulling knee in)

I've finally found a rec ball team for this season. Sunday arvos too which is brilliant as there will be no late games. No idea on the quality of the league but that's almost irrelevant to me right now. It's not A grade but I'm going to use this as an opportunity to actively work on the game with a view to joining a better team towards the end of the year once the fitness is better and the jump shot is back. I haven't had a consistent jumper since I played div 1 in my late teens.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: January 23, 2019, 08:31:09 pm »
22/01/19

Seated GM - sets of 5- +20, +30, +35, +40, +50
L-sit on parallettes- sets of 15s x 5

Chins- bw x 5, 4, 6
DB Shoulder Press- 5kg DBS x 10, 12.5kg DBs x 10, 10

23/01/19

Single Leg Deadmill Drive- 15s x 7 each leg
Split Squat- sets of 5
bw, +12, +20, +25, +30, +35, +40

Social netball game. Feeling pretty fast and bouncy. This is still the most frustrating game ever invented. Body feels good though. Only 4 games left then we're done and I'm back to balling every week.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: January 20, 2019, 10:02:13 pm »
Lately i've been watching Ben Simmons play. He will drive into the middle and then just turn his back while still driving and backing down his defender and then make a move to score. I think i can kinda do that but not sure how it would against a zone, probably need pretty decent handles to do it without picking up my dribble and come in on an angle . Been trying to practice a little in pickup but the (really shit) guards hold the ball too much so i don't get much practice. Plus they won't give me the ball at the top cos they think i should be inside to collect their rebounds instead :). It's only recently i've realised you have to treat the guards like they're children and just out-alpha them and demand the ball from them at all times, til they earn their your respect and can handle it more. I think i need a pass first guard because im a pass first forward so the ball moving around is my ideal thing because it's not going to die in my hands but it usually does in theirs. Like i'd happily pass the ball back to the same guard who just passed it to me, even straight away just to keep the ball flowing.  Really weird but power games are everywhere in life you don't get to opt out just because of some belief in equality lol. Guards and forwards aren't equals, we look down on them  :wowthatwasnutswtf:

I think i understand what kind of player you are, the bouncy rebound magnet close to the rim. Im not that guy. Even when i can outreach the defenders around me for rebounds for put backs (not dunks) i seldom finish them cleanly cos it's just so unnatural to me to play that role. But nowadays i try to be more patient and get the defender to bite and just finish with some contact but moving for a clean shot. It seems to open up my game to have a bit more patience and just go against my natural instincts and im enjoying that growth so far.

I need to be more aggressive but i just don't wanna seem aggressive. Is that possible?

My play honestly depends on how fit I am. Fairly out of shape like right now I'll stay close to the rim or even be lazy and hang on the outside for a few possession to get my breath back. Fully fit and I'm more of that cutting/driving player who will still go hard on the boards. I haven't had a jump shot the last few years so I've really been limited. If you can shoot then you're so much more valuable and shouldn't be limited to the post.

You can be aggressive without being aggressive. I'm not an aggressive person but am an aggressive player. Don't know if that's what you meant.

Btw, not sure if you've seen these podcasts. Really interesting episode:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY80mZ9xTC8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY80mZ9xTC8</a>

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: January 20, 2019, 06:11:07 pm »
20/01/19

Got a call up to fill in for a ball team. B grade at MSAC which is a pretty good comp. First game in idk how long. 8 points, a few rebounds, some good assists, didn't embarrass myself, certainly not fit enough (walked the last 3 minutes of game time  :ninja:), went ok though. Felt pretty good to be back playing. Refs were great and let a lot go and there was a nice flow to the game. I played the 3/4 and got plenty of ball in the post and moving through the key. There were plenty of 3's getting chucked up but they settled and actually tried to play some decent strategy. I was completely dead after the game though. Literally dragged myself to my car.

21/01/19

Back to early AM training. In the gym at 5am.

Circuit-

Sled pulls x 50m
Poliquin step up- sets of 20- +20, +25, +30, +35, +40
Tib Raise- sets of 15- bw x 15 x 5

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Good stuff! Can you go more into the strategy of being super aggressive? I find when the shot goes up im just watching the ball thru space while it makes it way to the rim. It's like my legs find that to be the best time to sneak a bit of rest while the ball is up in the air  :uhhhfacepalm: that's part of being super unfit for basketball so i know i have terrible habits of conserving energy but i know it's a bad one. This is a new realisation too  :uhhhfacepalm:

Haha I know exactly what you mean. Watching the shot is ok but you need to find a body. Create some body contact and get in front or besides someone. With your reach and your vert you should be able to out rebound most guys. Also most guys are horrible at boxing out and will hate when the pressure is put on them. Even if you can’t complete the rebound just try and keep the ball alive on offense or clear it on defence.

As someone who 'thinks' like a guard but happens to be too tall to play one, i think they're not willing to put that pass to the ground when what they think is a bad situation (in their mind a guy turned away from the basket with a guy right on top of him while both are stationary is a bad decision because they're a guard and to them a good situation is having the offensive player moving while there is some space between the defender and they can see daylight. Guards are just fucking stupid though, it's the ultimate projecting what is good for you but not necessarily good for someone else.). Last week at pickup I was literally posting up on a guy who was too slow and weak to guard me in the post and im all but begging for the ball but the guards are like nah it's better in my hands than his. lol.

When I played at my highest level I was a no. 3 swingman and played that slashing/cutting role. I would sometimes have to post but I still think that movement is best even for a 4 or 5. Low to high/high to low/wing to wing/etc. Seems to get their attention a little more. Still sucks though and if they don’t want to give it to you then you’re stuck. The other thing I do when I play with guys like that is to set on the ball screens so they have to move and make a play. Then roll or pop and give them options. This is also why I play so aggressively on the boards as that gives me control over some of my own shots.

Yeah agree. I want to work on my spin off the defender with a nice amount of contact to make space because that's something i can pull off with my length and speed against someone relatively heavier, bigger and slower. The problem is as you describe even getting the ball in teh frist place

Yep. It’s an ongoing battle.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: January 20, 2019, 05:19:11 pm »
So I'm in my 4th week following the ATG coaching program. https://www.instagram.com/athletic_truth_group/ Wanted to give it a good shot before saying anything. Here's the reasoning and the review so far:

- I'm paying for it- main reason is I would routinely spend at least 10 hours a week reading fitness shit. Not even for my own programming but something I might "want" to do in the future. Also, I am hopeless with programming. I know enough to be dangerous to myself but can never decide on what to do and what not to do. The last few weeks I have spent next to no time reading fitness shit and have spend more productive time reading other shit. Anyway if I only work for one of those hours that I would spend reading fitness shit then it more than covers the cost of $50 pm.

- My body was almost at breaking point. Back, hips, knees and feel/ankles routinely felt like shit. Heavy deadlifting has done wonders for my back. Heavy squats...eh idk. Aside from some light lower back pain related to tight hip flexors I've had no knee pain the since I started. Legit no pain at all. During my 10 minute run yesterday- zero pain in the knees or ankles. I'm 39 in 4 months and this is a good sign for me.

- I had about a 45 min chat with Ben (@kneesovertoesguy) before I committed. Seriously nice dude and he reviews footage of all lifts to ensure the form is correct and will give you the ok to progress to a harder variation. He's pretty passionate about what he's doing and it really comes through in the coaching. From where I am right now there is so much room to progress which is pretty cool.

- From the looks of the IG accounts you could be convinced they don't really lift heavy and the probably don't in the traditional sense. They still do heavy deadlifts and bilateral squats but mainly focus on single leg movements.

- I'm going back to playing ball (again hahaha) and I have had the same conversation for what seems like the last 10 years. I seem to have pretty good vert but just can't put those forces through my knee at speed. A large element of of the training is building that strength and resiliency through the knee. All up there's some really interesting concepts to his training. One of them being to develop equal jumps through all plants and take offs. Wonder if I can touch the rim off my right foot haha.

Summary- yet to see any negatives. Body feels good. Going out for some jumps tonight after training today so will see how we go.

Also, there's footage of him dunking on YouTube from about 7-8 years ago and his dunks are a lot like mine. Baby dunks. Now, not so much.

great stuff man!!

also i remember seeing "kneesovertoesguy" on ig and thinking he was cool, because his nickname wasn't mockery.

i'm definitely a knees over toes guy myself, lol.

His training actually reminds me a bit of yours too from back in the day.

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Was informed today im expected to play the 4 position. This is not great news .. i was prepping to play as a lean athletic 85kg. Not sure I can even play as a PF without being undersized. Any advice?

What's the general competition like at the 4? When I've played the 4 and 5 are still relatively short (6-6'5) so being a lean 85 would not be so much of an issue. If you're looking at the 6'6-6'9 range then yeah you might need some more cushion for the pushin

Not that much taller than that. But most guys would be 90-110kg range and average around 95kg i'd say. Also im pretty bad at pushing ppl out, i know that's prob a leverage thing .. but it could be my upper body being too weak. Dont have a clue what im doing in the post either lol.

imo boxing out is all leg and hip strength so you should be golden. If you get your leg across in front of them and push your hips (bum) back into them they simply can't jump over you. I normally play at 90kgs and I just go super aggressive on the boards. It's surprising how many guys just expect to be able to get rebounds.

Post play sucks. First thing is most guards hate giving it to you in the post so that's the biggest battle. You only really need 2/3 moves max though. A turn around jumper, a drop step and then a turn and face move. I like the turn and face then either a straight up bank shot or the pump fake 1 dribble lay-up/dish. A guy I used to play with had the best drop step spin. 9/10 he would go baseline with 1 dribble and finish over the help. I'm making it sound way more simple than it is though haha.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: January 17, 2019, 06:24:46 pm »
16/01/18
PM- netball game. Tons of cutting, sprinting and jumping. Did some jumps after the game and although svj is only about 22-23 my left leg SLRVJ was up around 30 which felt great.

17/01/18

1pm
Spent 2 hours bouldering with a couple of friends. I can see why people get addicted to this. Great combo of puzzle solving, strength and flexibility. Hands and wrists were pretty fried after this.


8pm
J Curl- sets of 5
12, 20, 25, 27.5, 30
Hanging Leg Raises- knees bent on way up and straight on way down-
5x5 - these sucked more than I can explain

Circuit-
cross bench pullover- 6 x 10, 10 x 10, 15 x 10
DB Trap 3 raise- 3.5 x 10, 5 x 10, 6.5 x 10
DB seated ex rotation- 3.5 x 10, 5 x 10, 6.5 x R6, L7

Stretch- standing pike x 2min, seated pancake x 5min

Body felt golden after the stretching. Also ate a ton of food today which may or may not have helped haha.

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Was informed today im expected to play the 4 position. This is not great news .. i was prepping to play as a lean athletic 85kg. Not sure I can even play as a PF without being undersized. Any advice?

What's the general competition like at the 4? When I've played the 4 and 5 are still relatively short (6-6'5) so being a lean 85 would not be so much of an issue. If you're looking at the 6'6-6'9 range then yeah you might need some more cushion for the pushin

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: 2019 Vert Comp
« on: January 16, 2019, 07:42:16 pm »
Good job for actually testing. I'm not game to test in case it's too depressing. Ha

Haha I was there so I had to. 22" is pretty depressing though but it's always been that depressing for me.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: 2019 Vert Comp
« on: January 16, 2019, 07:59:35 am »
I tested standing vert tonight. Fingers about 2" over a 10ft rim which gives me a 22-23" SVJ. SLRVJ was a bit better and I was getting mid wrist touch on the rim (with ball) so closer to 30" on that side.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: January 16, 2019, 07:57:57 am »
You can't beat the basketball bug haha.

This exercise looks awesome:


Sounds like your body is responding well to the training. Being pain and ache free is a great feeling.

Haha I'm not sure I'll ever shake it. Probably not a bad thing either. My old man played till he was mid-late 50's at least. That gives me another 20 years.

It's really surprising. Played the social netball game tonight and the body pulled up great. Threw down a few one handers afterwards too which were pretty easy.

Also one huge thing that I forgot to mention is that I tore my right hip flexor back in 2007/8 at a hapkido grading and have re-injured it a few times since and it's never been the same. I have always kicked through pain in that area. 2 weeks in and I'm throwing kicks without pain. I think this is obviously what my body needed right now. Pretty stoked for what's to come.

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