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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: August 09, 2013, 04:12:11 am »
I would naturally do a long writeup of what I have learnt but the last thing I want is someone nitpicking some minor point so i'm just gonna skip it lol. Suffice to say, things Lance has told me all along, coach reinforced them so i should just learn to take good advice and act on it. I see good things from me in the coming future, my technique was so suboptimal it's amazing i have got as far as I have with it. But with better technique i'm going to do much better. Just need to do the hard work.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / chasing athleticism - W1D3
« on: August 09, 2013, 04:07:42 am »
Training
BS 6x127 (PR), 3x130

BS notes:
Trained with coach. He made some major changes to my technique.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: August 08, 2013, 09:58:18 am »
^Thank God for That. lol. The Hodge Twins were right all along. i'll never question them again. DEADLIFTS SNAPPED MY SHIT ALL UP NOW MY MOUNTAIN IS BROKE.

 LBBS  :highfive:

I'm seeing olympic coach tomorrow.. bit nervous, never been around someone who knows what they're doing, esp with my shitty form when olyfags are famous for being sticklers for form.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: August 08, 2013, 09:01:45 am »
I don't think that argument is right when it comes to deadlifts. Squats maybe, other exercises too, but not deads. What you're saying is what ppl experience from doing a stint of smolov backsquats where find they get very good at squatting from high frequency and volume but this doesn't necessarily carry over so to speak. This is the complete opposite of that. Low frequency and low volume!  And it's ignoring the special role of the back. It's exactly why a wiry bob peoples pulled 800 or whatever it was while weighing something like 180 (from memory). It's because the back can get very strong without requiring a lot of muscle mass. This is exactly why it's okay to treat the back differently. So I think you're wrong about this completely. It's not the squat which depends on technique and movement efficiency, it's the deadlift, you know, just raw brute strength. Anyway lets forget about deadlifts all the same, i'm not doing them anymore due to safefy so this discussion is irrelevant!

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For the first time my FS and BS have reached parity. FS 3x125kg and HBBS 6x125kg, no belt, no wraps, sleeves etc. Milestone corresponds to >1.9BW for BS and 1.8xBW for FS where BW is my usual ideal basketball season playing bodyweight of 75kg. Will post again in 3 weeks time, hopefully having added another 15kg to my squats! Then a cut back to 75kg by xmas where i'll be ripped and superbly athletic.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / chasing athleticism - W1D2
« on: August 07, 2013, 06:23:10 am »
Training
FS 3x125 (PR)
BS 6x125 (PR), 5x122.5, 5x127.5(B, PR), 4x120 (B)
OHP 6x60, 3x65 (PR), 3x62.5
CU 3x6xBW

FS notes:
Pretty easy as far as heavy triple PRs go. Didn't sleep much so getting a PR in this fashion was a pleasant surprise.

BS notes:
Must have hit record twice on my shitty camera and because it's got no flashing led indicating recording, i didn't pick it wasn't recording til the set was over.  Taped the 2nd set and it was ok form. Used a belt for the first time, not sure how I feel about it yet, don't like to use a belt but unless my core gets a lot stronger very quickly i dont see how i'm getting to 6x140kg in 3 weeks without some serious core gainz. So we'll see. Have to remind myself the goal is to breed muscle mass on my legs and buttocks, and if a belt helps with that goal then it's all good really.

Upper notes:
New form teck on ohp. Squeeze glutez, fix gaze btw middle of pullleys, one big breathe for the whole set. Made that 65kg triple feel like a warmup. I prob had another 2 reps in me. Sick 1s. I've set my ohp training goal as 3x75kg (ideal bw).


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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: August 07, 2013, 12:10:39 am »
Oh word. I usually take dog out for a walk in the evenings except on training days when i'm too busy working out. Didn't realise it was costing me a valuable cool down. But i'll now make the time for a slow jog. I just hate being so wired up and unable to sleep, ruins recovery! Can't wait to try this out tonight. I'm cleaning up sleep hygiene - last night i put my phone far from me where I couldn't reach it from bed. Fell asleep much quicker and easier than normal. Might make that a permanent rule now.

KF just recommended Good mornings for upright torso stabilisation. Unlike deadlifts -  I can actually do that exercise very well, safely and i'm good at it. So i'll make that my defacto stable core exercise from now on. Make sure to take video and check out that i'm doing them adequately.

Today is a big milestone for my squats - parity between front squats and backsquats. Hope I get both PRs.


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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: August 06, 2013, 06:31:52 am »
Cool down. That's key. Meditation/yoga, again. DOn't neglect. Are you cooling down appropriately?

Thanks man. Nope, never do any cool downs. What is a cool down? lol. I see people do self massage mobility movements after workouts but ive always approached that stuff as something you do to prepare for a workout, it never occured to me that it would be useful after a workout, you know? I'll try meditation and yoga after tomorrows workout, see what happens. Should I try to actively lower my core temperature too?

 

Not joking. Which variant of cable row does KF do, seated or the lying one?

i do one-hand standing cable rows with the off-hand bracing to keep me perpendicular to the cable resistance.

this gives me mass on the mid back, rear delts and forearms and NOT for the spinal erectors. the braced off-hand removes as much of the erectors as i can to not fatigue them.

best torso-stabilizing exercise aside from squats - i do high repetition weighted back extensions (3x45s on GHR bench).

I actually just considered joining a gym just to use a GHR bench after reading your post lol. It's cheaper than actually buying one ($600).  Yeah mate the torso stabilisation is what i'm after for my heavy 6-rep highbar backsquats. Could I join a gym for a few weeks and just build up my back strength enough to get my squats nice and stable and then stop doing them or will I need to keep doing them to keep the benefits? I'm not sure.

Found a shiny 6 foot steel pipe to use as my practice bar, i was just looking for a broom handle but this is much nicer. Doing the classic lifts from the hang. Turns out i'm good at snatching, it comes so naturally to me. Cleans are the opposite. My long arms make the rack impossible/difficult. With the snatch, the wider grip suits my long arms nicely. But this is just broom stick work yet so it's early. I already think i'm going to give up on cleans though, it's not a natural exercise for me and I think for us wannabe athletes snatches are a better tool anyway. I remember Lance saying the snatch is the gold standard for athletic performance, and that the front squat is a proxy to it, and a backsquat is a proxy to the front squat and so on. It's nice when an exercise comes naturally, this is what it must be like to be a normal person.  Might update this post with a video later, i took one but haven't watched it yet.

You know what would be cool. If somehow taking a wide grip on the bar ala snatch actually allows me to do a nice pull from the floor. That would fill me with joy but I should temper my expectations and assume the worst. We'll see.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: August 05, 2013, 11:36:32 pm »
It's not too bad. Getting better quickly. Technically it was singles to failure, but practically speaking it wasn't, i mean I failed to break one single off the ground but I didn't fail it in the sense that it didn't even budge. Deadlifts are bad news for me so i'm going to stay away. I think it's to do with the length of my leg segments, my femur is too long and it makes it hard to set the bar up properly. No big deal, just means I can't be an olympic lifter and clean 3 plates like i once dreamed :( but it's okay, there are plenty of other ways to get explosive, maybe i can pull off blocks or something. That's the other thing, my plates aren't standard height so it's more of a deficit pull which doesn't help.

I agree with everything avishek said. I think i might even have been inspired by avishek and raptor to do singles. I don't care about doing reps of deadlifts because form breaks down with every rep and when even the first one is of questionable form there is no sense in doing more reps. I like the idea of working up to a decently challenging single and then leaving it there which is what I did on friday except i didn't know where to start and had to bisect between 150kg and 130kg to find the right weight (140kg).

Also chris, i still have the muscle on my lower back, can touch and feel it there my erectors are still there. I just need to remind them how to be strong. I'll try the exercises mentioned like cable & barbell rows and heavy rack pulls.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: August 05, 2013, 11:56:33 am »
Because i'm not building it from scratch. I used to pull 170kg for 5 off the ground easily a few years ago. I used to have that strength, don't any more because i haven't done any pulls in years :( i neglected training my back and now it's come back to bite me in the ass because my backsquat is limited by my (lack of) back strength. I am using the same weight for backsquats as my front squats but struggling because my back is weak as fuck when it should be easy for me. Backsquats are supposed to be like 10-15kg heavier than front squats for olympic squatters. And for ppl who don't go atg on bs, the difference shud be even greater.

This feels like when you are studying for a class you find easy but because you left it last minute you have too much material to cover in one night and you're panicking even though you should be acing the test coming up. for me the test is backsquatting 1kg less than my front squat, something that shud be a piece of cake but it's crushingly hard instead cause i neglected back training

so what are you saying that the cable row is an advanced exercise? or it's a good exercise because kf does it? kf prob has plenty of back strength from years of training, he probably used heavy pulls heavily at one point and he probably still most of that back strength available to him.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: August 05, 2013, 11:30:30 am »
Seated cable rows are boss. I've never heard of lying ones though.

Thanks sold re seated cable rows. Lying ones - I'm thinking of this exercise I saw Arnold do in pumping iron, he's on the ground, legs straight and he's doing a low cable row. Sounds a bit crazy now that i think about it, trying to find it on youtube to make sure i didn't imagine it

edit, found it

just a regular seated row but he goes past vertical

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: August 05, 2013, 11:19:24 am »
Not joking. Which variant of cable row does KF do, seated or the lying one?

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: August 05, 2013, 11:09:16 am »
Why did I go heavy? Because I needed back strength last week, not in a months time lol when i'm done with my high bar squatting cycle. Like need it asap.

I think rack pulls were ok today, cause they're very close to a flat back, just a tiny rounding of middle back.  A lot better than pulls from the ground which are scary.

Sure, I can try regular rows. Anything using dbs is out cause I dont have any. I can also try cable rows cause i have a pulley system, but that sounds like a gimmicky exercise (yes i know kf does them but that doesn't prove anything).. will try that out nevertheless.

I dont have a back extension bench thing :( It's prob the most important piece of equipment i'm missing but they're fairly expensive last time i checked.

I might be getting a coach next week, he might be able to teach me to pull correctly from the floor too.

Thanks for your suggestions.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / chasing athleticism - W1D1
« on: August 05, 2013, 07:16:50 am »
Training
FS 3x124 (PR)
BS 6x123 (PR), 5x123, 9x107.5 (PR)
BP 6x60, 6x60, 6x70, 8x79.5 (PR)
CU 6xBW
RP 1x100, 1x130, 1x150, 1x160, 5x100

Salient changes: Slowly shedding and unlearning every piece of western advice on squatting - today it was the big chest cue which got binned. Switched back to coke from pepsi preworkout.

FS notes:
Monster effort to lock out the 3rd rep. Only 1 set of FS, focus is on BS now. I have a suspicion even that 1 heavy triple is taking out too much out of me to backsquat properly though.

BS notes:
New chinese inspired cue really made my biceps work harder keeping elbows in place vertically. But it made the lift a lot easier on the concentric. Now biceps must adapt so I can make the new form automatic.

Upper body notes:
Looked at my log to see what I did last time on mondays bench get a PR on friday's bench, tried to replicate it in today's workout. Lets see what happens friday, hopefully 6x86kg will finally fall! Have decided to move chinups to weds, mondays getting too hard and weds are a better fit. But I still did 1 set of chins to keep my body keen and keep the movement pattern fresh.

Back notes:
Tried rack pulls. Did them from the bottom most pin. It works out to be just below my knee. Watching the video frame by frame, i see that just before I break the bar off the pins, my middle back rises slightly. So that's bad. I need to figure out a way to keep it flat thruout the lift.

Day 1 of 28 day HBBS specialisation cycle. Goal is 6x140kg by the end. If my FS is 3x130kg by the end that will do but i'm happy just to maintain a 125kg triple. I also invite advice on how to keep myself unstuck on backsquats. I feel as though the 6s are now high intensity and something needs to give (volume?). I've reduced FS volume a lot. Do i need to reduce frequency too? not sure. BS is a hard beast to tame.
LBSS yep you're right, i took the advice and did deads on friday but over the weekend i found I had tweaked my back and hurt my spine and i'm terrified of deadlifts again. I need a safer back exercise. The only one i keep coming back to is goodmornings but i'm not sure if it's an effective exercise or if it's just a waste of time the way RDLs turned out. Suppose I could give them a chance though. Really short of ideas otherwise. The other option is heavy rack pulls which might be safer but i'm afraid to try in case they too snap my shit up. Pendlay rows to me seem dangerous for the same reason as DLs are, doing a pull off the ground where my breaking the bar off the ground with good form is the problem.

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Those are some beautiful squats man. The only tiny defect I can see is, and it's nitpicking, is that for a highbar squat you want your elbows under the bar. Not that it affects your form in any way but that's kinda incongruous to have the elbows pointed back. Perhaps you're using a thumbs behind grip as per lowbar?  Great work.

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