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676
28-03-18

Workout

Run -- 10.17mi in 1:27:17

Notes

Nice, average 8:35 pace for almost 90 mins, and my longest run yet. Will start lengthening the long runs from here, probably want to do at least a couple at or longer than half distance before the race, I guess?

Felt pretty decent. Was raining hard the whole time, though. Think tights might be in order for rainy runs, since my legs did feel a little cold.

Blisters as non-issue, too, which was a fucking relief.

677
800m+ Running and/or Conditioning / Re: Runners to learn from
« on: March 27, 2018, 01:57:46 pm »
Badass runner I found on strava who seems to just rock up to marathons and try to hold on to the Olympic Trial qualifying pace (<2:19 or ~5:18/mile) for as long as he can.


First half in 1:05:55, finish in 2:38 lol:
https://www.strava.com/activities/739610831/overview

Held it for like 20.5 miles here before starting to fall apart:
https://www.strava.com/activities/1260796307

And here for like a bit more:
https://www.strava.com/activities/1357335017/overview

Under a minute away from qualifying! What a badass approach

678
or maybe 5k will seem so easy that you'll dust me and get first OA. you never know.

looool, maybe, we'll see. i've looked at the winning times of the some of those races and sometimes they're won by 19:xx times, which with 2 more months of hard running I could probably do when still wrecked, and other days they're won by 16:xx,  sooooo

679
27-03-18

Workout

SS1A NG Chins [top set = 11]
SS1B Pushups [top set = 17]

SS2A: kb ohp @ 16kg [3 x 6]
SS2B: kb row @ 24kg [3 x 6]

Notes

Blisters seem like they'd still flip out if I ran today, but also like they might be better by tomorrow, so I'm resisting the urge to run and taking today off. Will do my calisthenics routine later, though.

Signed up for that 5k on the 30th to run w/ LBSS. Will be interesting to see how that goes since it's just a few days after my half. I assume I'll basically still be dead, but if I take those two recovery days seriously on the 28th/29th maybe I'll be recovered enough to put in a good effort.

Workouts to include going forward:

Tempo w/ volume from 4-6 miles (~6:35-40 pace)

Fartleks -- building from like 15 x (1min@HM - 1min easy) up to like 30? [target HM pace = 6:50)

Some faster repeats from 400m-1k @ estimated 3k pace I guess.

680
26-03-18

Workout

Run -- 4.17mi in 35:46

Notes

~8.30 miles are getting easy, even on legs that still feel super fatigued. Exciting.

Had to call this one short as my blisters were fucking painful, ow. Guess I should take tmrw off to give them more recovery space, idk. They're fucking sore though.

Just wanna run without dealing with BS  :wowthatwasnutswtf: :wowthatwasnutswtf: :wowthatwasnutswtf:

681
alright, gonna be in the states and UK in may/june and there are a few potential races. will enter at least one of these, hopefully two.

13 may
hope for henry mother's day 5k: https://secure.qgiv.com/event/hopeforhenry5k/
- this is the day after my brother's memorial service and three days after i land in the states, so conditions will not be ideal. but shit, desperate times. need to check with fam about whether they're okay with me entering. i imagine they will be, i'd be home by 9:30 or 10 am, likely before my other brother wakes up.

26 may
lee valley velopark 5k: http://www.runthrough.co.uk/?event=lee-valley-velopark-may-2018&event_date=2018-05-26

30 may
chase the sun wimbledon common 5k: http://www.runthrough.co.uk/?event=chase-the-sun-wimbledon-may-2018&event_date=2018-05-30

joe, you wanna race in either of the london ones?

I'm racing a half marathon on the 27th in Edinburgh, lol, but I'll think seriously about signing up for the on the 30th.

682
Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: ADARQ's journal
« on: March 25, 2018, 07:56:29 am »
Looking ripped as fuck, holy shit!! I really need to focus on getting lean like that if I';m gonna get closer to my potential. Summer's coming up too, haha.

Reading this was super inspiring, man. You fought that race super hard and made some running comrades on the way, that's awesome. Also cool af that you're becoming "A Name" on the local running scene. Can't wait to see how fast you get.  :highfive: :ibrunning:

683
25-03-18

Workout

Run -- 6.25mi in 53:18

Notes

Decent easy run. Legs definitely tired from Friday still, but still able to run a decent pace, nicenice.

Need to have a better plaster strategy for next run, from mile 4 my blisters were not happy, ouch.

Upper body not so sore, am getting adapted to the lifting routine again.

Should start running 5-6 times a week going forward.

Sleep has been highly meh again recently. Even on weekends when i get sn opportunity to lie in i wake up ~8. Today i was really excited because I'd managed to sleep past 9, but it was just daylight savings bamboozling me

684
24-04-18

Workout

SS1A NG Chins [top set = 10]
SS1B Pushups [top set = 15]

SS2A: kb ohp @ 16kg [3 x 6]
SS2B: kb row @ 24kg [3 x 6]

+ some bodyweight BSSs

Notes

Abs wrecked. Right ankle/Achilles a little beat up, But feels like it'll be fine tomorrow. Legs feel tired but also like they have enough in them for a decent run, but I'll baby the ankle and give them a rest. Calisthenics later, though!

Gained a lot of confidence from yesterday's time. Going to make a hard push with next period of training, esp toughening up tempo paces. The possibility of having 1:30 half fitness for the race in May is exciting.

Everything felt night in the workout! Feeling stronger, goodgood. I do the rows with a really wide grip, so it's like a great rear-delt exercise, love it

685
nice PR. sub-20 will be my goal when i run my first 5k too. honestly what i need to learn to apply from this board is proper long term program structure and thorough competition planning.

those huge warmup and cooldowns are an interesting choice. do you feel they helped? i cant imagine running an extra 4.5 miles at 10 min mile pace after a brutally exhausting 5k

Wamup was basically just me running to the startline, so I didn't have many other options other than walking more of it, I guess. ~20 minute warmup jog with strides seems pretty standard for pre-race warmup, though. Threw in some dynamic stretching between arriving at the venue and waiting for the race to start, as well. Then lots of walking around to settle nerves. But yeah, at this point I probably feel better after 2mi than I do before.

The 4.5 mi after the race was meant as much as an extra workout as it was a cooldown; I waited about 5-10 mins after the race to start it. The first 2 miles sucked, actually, but after that my legs started to feel a lot better and the last 2.5 miles of that run felt good, so I guess it did work from a cooldown perspective, though.

The idea, really, though, was to get some extra miles in in a very fatigued state. I figure you can somewhat simulate the effects of a long run, that way. I mean I had ~90 mins total of running, half of which was post-race, so there's got to be some long run style gains there, in addition to the pace/speed work from the race itself.

686
https://www.serpentine.org.uk/rdb/showrace.php?race=12531

Official time is 19:16, but I'm personally going with my watch's 19:13, because I stopped it only after I had to stand still in the final corral. After stopping I still had to wait for a few people in front of me to get checked off before they got to me. Annoying system!!! Didn't affect me last time since I wasn't finishing with anyone else, but when it's all clogged up like the finish today it messes with things a bit. Anyway, still a sick PR!

687
checking some of the flyby's from your 5k:

a guy who ran 17:18:

"REVEALED: what not to eat the night before a 5k..... 19 chicken wings and about 8 pints 😵 file that one in the bin 😏"

lol.

https://www.strava.com/activities/1467276654

Jeez, that's nuts. I don't think the wings would be much of an issue, but that's almost as much alcohol as I've had this year in one night, haha. Don't think I've ever had that much in a sitting.

688
http://www.adarq.org/progress-journals-experimental-routines/warpspeed-to-the-new-scenario/msg140174/#msg140174

Serpentine 5k:

unofficial/watch time: 19:13 5k :personal-record: :personal-record:  :personal-record: (last one was 20:40, just under 2 months ago!)
mile: 6:07  :personal-record: :personal-record: :personal-record:
KM: 3:45  :personal-record: :personal-record: :personal-record:
1/2 mile: 2:58  :personal-record: :personal-record: :personal-record:
400m: 1:25  :personal-record: :personal-record: :personal-record:

Decent day out. 400m obviously not an all-time PR, just a Strava one. All this having only run 4 miles <7:00 since the last race. When I have proper 5k focussed sessions it's gonna be sick. Next focus for now is the half marathon, though! Lots of tempos in my future.

689
Harbour Club Serpentine Last Friday of the Month 5k -> 26th Jan, i.e. next Friday.

If I like it + the organisation, etc., I might try to run it monthly rather than doing Parkruns, since this is more convenient and on a nicer course.

I think that's it for now. Need to build up more fitness before I'll feel like I'm actually racing at 10k or longer.

Unofficial 5k time of 20:46.6. Race recap here: http://www.adarq.org/progress-journals-experimental-routines/warpspeed-to-the-new-scenario/msg138860/#msg138860

Official results: https://www.serpentine.org.uk/rdb/showrace.php?race=12450

Official time is 20:40, sick.

Just signed up for the next iteration of this race on 23/03. Will be aiming for sub 20:00.

oooh nice!!!

adarq.org racing weekend:

- 2018/03/23: joe/5k
- 2018/03/24: adarqui/half

anyone else racing on the 23rd/24th? :D 8) :ibrunning: :ninja: :highfive:

Part one of this weekend went well! Watch said I hit 19:13 for the race today!!!  :personal-record: :personal-record: :personal-record:


690
23-03-18

Workout/Race

Warmup -- run ~2mi in ~18 mins

Race -- 5k in 19:13 [watch timed]  :personal-record: :personal-record: :personal-record: :personal-record: :personal-record: :personal-record: :personal-record:

Cooldown -- ~4.5mi in ~45 mins

Notes

Warmup and pre-race felt terrible just like last time, just like last time. I get so nervous, haha, but everyone does. Just gotta remember that's normal and channel is, as I eventually did.

Was in the A race this time rather than the B race, so everyone was going for <22:00. It's also the last running of this race prior to the London marathon, so there were a lot of fast folk using it as their tune-up.

After the warmup run my watch was being a little funky, I don't really remember how, so with like 3 mins until the race was due to begin I turned it off, since restarting it often helps it settle down. It wouldn't turn back on, though, so I was like "fuuuuck I'm gonna be racing without a watch! How do I do that? That's way too old school for me, fuck fuck fuck." But eventually it turned on, with like 15 seconds to spare before the race started. Not ideal, panicking a bit like that at the start!

Anyway, the race began and I was in with a big group of people, lots went off way faster -- I'm quite excited to see the results, quite a lot of people <18:00 at this I think. Took a while to settle into pace, aiming to settle at ~3:55 for the first two km. I knew that the 3rd km had a decent bit of uphill, and that I'd need, then, most of the 4th km to resettle after that, so I wanted some cushion. Km 1&2 were 3:48 and 3:50 according to my watch, so that was good. Watch also said ~.97km at the official km markers, though (as with last time), but the course is officially certified and as LBSS is so adamant about telling us, garmin's can be fucky. Anyway, the official times for km 1&2 would be a bit faster.

Km 3 was the uphill one and I hit that at 3:59. I was hurting pretty badly already after like 1.5km, to be honest, so I was getting worried. However, I told myself that a well paced 5k basically is meant to hurt the whole time and that I went out a bit slow in my last one, so there was nothing to be worried about, this was correct. Km 4 the suck was really setting in, but I held it for another 3:59 split.

Don't really remember much about the last 5km, to be honest, just kept repeating to myself "you can suffer anything for 4 minutes, come on" which helped, though I didn't manage quite the same surge as I did last time. Probably mostly because I had less energy left in me, both physically and mentally. I went out a lot harder, so legs had less left in them, and I had struggled a lot more mentally since I suffered a lot harder, so my head had less drive for that finish. The latter is something to work on, I think! More hard intervals will let me train that "drive while suffering" part of my brain more.

I basically didn't really "race" this as such, just used it as a time trial to hit a big ol' PR. There were quite a few people running similar paces and we jostled and ran along each other the whole way, but there wasn't that much movement. Like three or four people came out of nowhere after the 3.5km mark, but they must have been negative splitting hard, like I did in my first race. They came from nowhere, like I had not seen them when looking behind, but then they just surged ahead. Good hustle from them, I guess.

Super duper happy with the time. Peeved that my watch said 3.07mi again, same as last time, so perhaps the route is a little short? 100m is quite a long way to be short, though, and it is officially certified ("certificate of course accuracy 14/320" and these people seem legit: http://aukcm.org.uk/) but I guess they could set up the finish line a little wrong on the day, who knows.

A little disappointed in my lack of mental drive for a really strong kick. Despite that the pace for the last 5km was slightly faster than the first km, according to my watch (6:07mi vs 6:06mi) so that's decent.

Anyway, official results out later. Time to get serious for half training. Jack Daniels' calculator says I could be good for sub 1:30, eep.

Edit: forgot to note (1) that i vomited in my mouth at ~4km, which wasn't great, but at least I knew I was probably trying hard enough. (2) tried out my flyknit racers without socks since they're so light and socklike that this made sense to me. feet are blister city now, haha. dumb, but lesson learned. (3) looking at strava for other people from the race, most of them say 3.10/3.11mi, so i guess it's my watch. blarg. strava still thinks by 5k pr is 22:54, what a dick.

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