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Maybe you were overdosing on protein back then?

Possibly, I was taking more at that time when I was doing a lot more gym work. Probably not more than 2g/kg BW. At the moment I take about 140g per day. Again, it was a short-term symptom - a few days later it was clean. Either way, I'm happy with a low dose per day just in case.

677
So you're not loading up on creatine the first 4-5 days? I took 20-25g the first few days and then maintained at 5g.

I'm not doing that this time. From what I've read, you can just take a 5g dose from the start and maintain that for about a month to fill up the stores. It takes a bit longer than doing a 20g/day load for a week, but A) I'm not in a rush to fill up, and B) although it's generally been shown to be safe, higher doses could possibly have some side effects which I'd rather avoid. I can't remember if I logged this but last year when I got a really bad tension headache and went to ER, my urine sample had creatinine levels just outside the normal range and there was microscopic traces of blood in there as well. Granted, this was about 36h after I repped 135kgs for 6 at 78kgs, which might have caused a high level of creatine-->creatinine in my urine. The blood traces were there up until about 3-4 days later. The doc said elevated creatinine levels can impair kidney function and cause some microscopic bleeding.

At that time, it appeared to be a short-term symptom from the headache. I don't have a family history of kidney dysfunction but just to be on the safe side, I'm just going to stick at 5g a day for awhile then drop to 3g as entropy suggested. It should be just as effective over a long-term period. Would love to hear opinions from the creatine users on this.

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Track:

800m jog, dynamic warmup

5x120m/80m fly (20m lead-in): 2 mins rest between reps, 15 mins between sets (35oC). 120m: 14.5sec avg, 80m: 9.2 sec avg

Cool-down UB weights

BW:77.5 kgs

I'm not going to overreact to two days of creatine but I did feel very 'powerful' tonight in the 80m sprints. I could maintain effort for about 10-20m longer than usual. I based this on a training partner who usually gets a slow start but catches me by the 50-60m mark; tonight he was only passing me in the last 10m of the 80m. Making some good progress. Training three nights in a row has left me pretty wrecked though, I've really had to push the recovery hard at nights to keep up.

 

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Well I got my creatine today so we'll see how I'm performing in a month or so. Took 5g after training and another 1-2g before bed. Will take 5g daily for the next week and maybe drop it down to 3g from then.

Track (tues):

1200m jog, dynamic warmup

Starting drills (falling starts, crouch starts)

2x30m block starts

3x50m block starts

Some overspeed work with cable (4 tows, 4 getting towed approx 50m)

Cool-down UB weights

BW: 78kgs

Track/gym (yesterday):

Dynamic warmup (+5kg weight vest)

2x5 consec broad jumps (+5kg weight vest)

2x4-5/leg SL bounds (+5kg weight vest)

Few broad jumps (+5kg weight vest)

8 shotput throws (did some DSVJs at a nearby ring between throws)

Speed squat: 4x15@40kgs in 15 seconds (aim was to do at least 15 reps in 15 secs)

Core/hamstring exercises in-between sets

Speed split jerk: 4x8-14@40kgs in 15 sec (struggled with this)

Power cleans: 1x7@50kgs

Bench: 1x10@65kgs

BW: 78kgs

Very hard training session. I really struggle with the rhythm for the split jerks. Need to practice. Also just very weak at it atm. I was already pretty cooked by the time we were doing shotput throws, only hitting ~31'' for my DSVJs.

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the potomac valley track club just announced their spring/summer meet schedule. there are FAT 100m and 200m races on may 19, june 9 and 30, july 20 and august 10. pretty soon it'll be warm enough to start training outside again and i'm going to head back out to the track. gonna sign up for one or more of these and finally learn just how slow i really am.

EDIT: avishek's gonna do one of them with me. more motivation.

spring workouts plan is to jump 3-4 days a week, train on the track 2-3 days a week, and lift 2 days a week. something like:

D1: ME jumping + lifting
D2: rest OR low-intensity track
D3: jumping + high-intensity track
D4: jumping + lifting
D5: rest OR low-intensity track
D6: jumping + high-intensity track
D7: rest

that may be overly ambitious. given that i'm making progress on my current set up and my overall goal remains dunking,high-intensity track will be the first thing to go if it's too much. i do think i reaped some benefits from the sprinting last summer/fall, and it'll be interesting to see if i can continue to do that after a winter that's seen me get closer to my goal than ever before.

high-intensity track would be various bounds and max-effort sprints. low-intensity track would be basically extensive tempo. i'll start conservatively, as always.

might get back to jumping before work, as well, as that'll allow me to get back on the track without having overly complicated evenings or being unpleasantly surprised by the court being filled with 8-year-olds.

Wow very cool man. Will be interested to see how you go.

680
I personally never felt any effects from creatine. And I used ON Creapure.

I have a weird feeling that I'll be a non-responder. No evidence for this, just a hunch. Given it's so cheap there's no harm in trying, but if it was any more expensive I'd prob just lump it in with most other sports/bodybuilding supps that might have some effect but just aren't worth the price.

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Track:

800m jog, warmup, run-throughs

5 sets of 120m/80m double, 2 mins between reps, 8 mins between sets

Cool-down UB

BW: 78kgs

This was pretty damn hard. Times were all over the place as it was super-hot. Lots of drop-outs. Quite a few in the group regularly throw up during these workouts. I'm lucky in that regard. I do wonder though if it does more harm than good. Sure, you can finish the workout, but the times drop off and I swear some of these guys are becoming conditioned to spew when they do these sessions. 

Comp:

200m - 25.63

Shotput - 8.11m

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/qfhqyyjc5uhkfgi/pf1690TKl_/Round08/Yellow-round8-individual-1feb14-645pm.pdf

BW: 77.5kgs

Raced yesterday but it was a bit of a disaster as usual. It was around 38oC and they nearly called the meet off. The actual run felt fine, just slow still. Even though I was never a great 200m runner I should be closer to <25 sec. Taking forever to build up fitness! Very demoralising getting destroyed by HS kids that I beat in the 100m  :huh: .

Track/gym:

Dynamic warmup (+5kg weight vest)

2x5 consecutive broad jumps (+5kg weight vest)

2x5 LLL/RRR bounds (+5kg weight vest)

800m time trial - 2m50s --> did not know we were doing this. It is fucking hot again in Melbourne so I suffered like a bitch.

Power cleans: 6x5 (no reset)@60kgs

In between sets: random BW core, hamstring exercises

Squat: 1x10@90kgs (v. easy)

Bench: 1x10@75kgs (v. hard!)

Good to get back in the gym. The bad news is I'm unfit and weak! The other guy training with me was doing 90kg PCs with ease. My technique is already a lot better though. It's good having a coach who knows correct form. I'm shuddering thinking about how bad my form must have been in the past.

681
Other nutrition news: Finally got around to buying some creatine. I've never tried it before but I've always had it in my head as a possible secret weapon to try when I need more inches. I know I'm pretty late to the party here because most members seem to be using it in some way. Got a 1kg of creatine monohydrate for $20 and figured it was time to try it already. From reading journals/bodybuilding sites, the current preferred loading method is just to take 5g a day consistently throughout the year after training or at any time during non-training days, rather than the traditional 20g for 5 days/3-5g for 8 weeks/4 weeks off cycle.

It boggles my mind that guys here like LBSS and acole aren't using creatines. Everyone gains instantly on it. And I agree i like the idea of saving things to push further when you reach your natural limit. I hope you're also using caffeine? It helps a lot in all facets, from performance to recovery. It's a must. For a while i was dabbling in dosing caffeine depending on the intensity of the workout, but now i realise that to be a mistake, because if you take less caffeine on a light day, it means you made that workout a lot harder than it should have been, and what's more, made it much harder to recover from! So now i think caffeine is just necessary. Get a bottle of caffeine pills from bodybuilding.com, it costs like $5 and lasts months. And yeah, creatine daily soungs good. I don't take 5g though, like 1-2g a day, we're just not that muscular (as in kilos of lean mass), but then i take about 1g preworkout and postworkout on workout days. Helps with workout performance, and postworkout for recovery too, taken this way.

Eating carbs before bed isn't bad, it's good! Helps sleep deeper better, so it's not something you should be guilty about. I'd cut out the sugar from breakfast though, just because i like psychologically to know i started off 100% clean, and it's easy to stick to the plan thru the day compared to if breakfast was dirty, just my 2c.

Well you're not gonna like reading this...I haven't had any significant dose of caffeine (i.e.>50mgs) for probably close to 2 years. Again, it's something I've been 'saving' for when I really need it. As Kelly Baggett recommends, I was using it sparingly when I was jumping well in 2012. Since I got injured shortly after that, I haven't really used it at all. All my performances since then have been without any stimulants. I have never drunk coffee (which is considered very weird by my scientist colleagues) and don't drink coke or any other caffeine-containing substances so it's not really a big deal to not have any.

What you're saying about having caffeine to make workouts easier and thus easier to recover from makes a bit of sense. I felt having ~200mg of caffeine did help me jump a little bit higher during 2012 jump training. But because I train later in the day I feel it would fuck up my sleep patterns too much. Throw in the other side-effects from long-term caffeine use and it just doesn't appeal to me personally as a regular training aid. Each to their own though of course.

682
feet and legs always get fucked up during long-haul flights. don't worry about it.

Yeah I guess you're the expert on that! It must suck for professional athletes who have to travel a lot but I suppose if they fly business then it would be a bit better.

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I've been meaning for awhile to post some nutrition/diet stuff. My weight and body fat has stayed fairly consistent since I cut a bit of weight (~87kgs to 76kgs) from Jan 2013-Feb 2013. I don't think I need to add any weight over the next few years to achieve what I need to do. Extra weight probably gave me a meniscus injury and I'm not expert enough on nutrition/not taking any PEDs to maintain enough strength to make a heavy bulk/cut worth it. For the next few years I'm only interested in increasing relative strength with maybe a little weight gain (no more than 2-3 kgs).

My diet has become fairly consistent day-to-day so it's easy to throw a bunch of stuff into myfitnesspal and work out an average day:

MealsCalsCarbsFatProteinNa+Sugar
B'fast5077773130040
Lunch4606711245004
Dinner5327284421312
Before bed57764223439146
Other snacks523451196586
Totals2600325591422094108

This is for a training day but off-days are probably the same with maybe a few less carbs/protein from before/after training. I usually hit 2-3 fruit and 4-5 veg, not too much sugar/sat fat and enough fibre, calcium etc. I never really feel hungry during the day and I don't fast at all. Sugars may be a little high for breakfast/before bed maybe. Eating before bed is just something I've always done because I hated being hungry trying to get to sleep. It may or may not be the smartest strategy but I don't think I am suffering too much body-fat wise at the moment.

Supplements include: ~2000mg of DHA/EPA (sometimes less) and 1500mg glucosamine/chondroitin sulphate (not 100% sold on this but because of my previous meniscus issue I take it just in case it helps  - efficacy is definitely overexaggerated but no health risks so nothing to lose really). I think I might take in more carbs than what's listed here because it seems a little low. Not sure. I try and follow the standard carb/fat/protein ratio, I think it pops out to be around 60/10/30. Again, this is just an approximation of the diet but it paints a pretty general picture of what I'm eating.

Other nutrition news: Finally got around to buying some creatine. I've never tried it before but I've always had it in my head as a possible secret weapon to try when I need more inches. I know I'm pretty late to the party here because most members seem to be using it in some way. Got a 1kg of creatine monohydrate for $20 and figured it was time to try it already. From reading journals/bodybuilding sites, the current preferred loading method is just to take 5g a day consistently throughout the year after training or at any time during non-training days, rather than the traditional 20g for 5 days/3-5g for 8 weeks/4 weeks off cycle.

683
Got through the flight OK. Tib-fib flared up a little again (weird), but not nearly as much as last time. I might take voltaren again if it starts getting bad during training.

Track:

800m, dynamic warmup

Few starting drills, 2x40m starts

3x100m run-throughs around 85%

Pullups - 10,8,8

BW: 77kgs

Did not do much here as I was still pretty jetlagged and it was also around 40oC (around 35o higher than what I was experiencing in Belgium  :huh: ).

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Track:

400m jog, dynamic warmup

8x70m ramping up to 100%

Cool-down UB weights. I haven't recorded these individually but for me they consist of: 20 window washers w/10kg dumbbell, 10/arm hammer curls w/15kg DBs, tricep kickbacks w/10kgs, 10-15 RDLs with 20kg bar, 20 walking lunges with 10kg bar side twist at the bottom, stair climbs with 15kg plate overhead, 12-15 supine SL cable extensions.

BW: 77kgs

The coach has changed the schedule slightly as the season is past the halfway point. I'll do speed Tues, spd endurance Thursday, compete or light track session Sat and gym Sunday. Now I''m back I can also start fitting in jump sessions during the week at the court near my place. Gotta get my vert back up!


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Basketball / Re: A WHOLE BUNCH OF DUNKS AND SHIT.
« on: January 29, 2014, 05:55:14 pm »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otMEHEGfQ4M" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otMEHEGfQ4M</a>

685
Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« on: January 27, 2014, 07:34:41 am »
Scooby, you forgot the depth jumps. If you're going to constantly ignore advice, at least do it right.

686
Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: January 26, 2014, 07:28:28 pm »
I'm going to come to entropy's defence here a bit and say that, from what I've read, it seems that he's not just desiring to be a better player in terms of pure skill, but also in terms of looking and playing like an 'athletic' player. Backing down defenders and scoring inside, dunking in traffic off drop-step, weakside blocks etc. So in his opinion that requires more focus on relative strength and run/jump work than pure skill work. He might be wrong, or it might be two roads to the same goal - we'll have to wait and see. But I don't think it's fair to say he hasn't listened and taken onboard a lot of stuff in the past. I think because he provides so much detail in every aspect of his journal, it allows more room for nitpicking and overanalysis. Sure, sometimes he wastes time worrying about mostly imperceptible differences between belted/beltless squat form or his 'non-force absorbing quads' or whatever, but overall he generally sticks to his broad approach and trains hard. I've seen a lot worse on this site!

687
Your squat form, i envy it!

Why thank you sir. I wish I had my Romaleos though. Feels a lot different in regular shoes.

688
Track:

Dynamic warmup/800m jog

Speed drills using PJ (quite a good tool for overspeed drills)

3x40m block starts

2x60m block starts

Few DSVJs

Random UB/core weights

BW: ??

The trip's been great but fuck, am I ready to get back home. Five weeks overseas, out of routine, no foam rolling, no vitamin places to get fish oil or anything like that (been out for two weeks) and just ran out of protein today...

689
Track:

Dynamic warmup/800m jog

2x220m/flying 60m (no times)

Cool-down UB/core

BW:??kgs

This was pretty crap. I meant to do three sets but I felt pretty nauseous after the second. I've never thrown up during a track session and I didn't want to start in a foreign country in front of a bunch of strangers!

690
Two days should be enough. But not all rest days are created equal. One day of great sleep, foam rolling, stretching, massage, Epsom salt baths and sufficient nutrition is better than two days of shitty sleep, work all day, crappy food etc. It also really depends on how intense is intense. Maximal lifts and jumps are CNS-heavy obviously so they require more 'rest' than your average lifting session. All-time PR performance also requires more CNS recovery than normal level lifting. You really just have to experiment and see what is sufficient for you. Be conservative in the short-term then ramp it up.

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