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Great Idea for a thread. Love it. It can be any type of competition weightlifting, bodybuilding competition  or basketball.

Quote from: adarqui on January 18, 2018, 08:44:30 am

Quote from: Coges on January 17, 2018, 06:33:46 pm

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ya that's something that should definitely help alot. the key though is, to make sure you are ALWAYS properly fueled up for important training sessions/races/competitions etc. I mean that was my theory before hand, and what I found in practice. The biggest mistake people make when trying to lean out, is not having enough fuel to train "properly hard". Training itself should not suffer. So that's the delicate balance - finding a way to eat "lighter"  and/or leveraging timing/meal frequency etc, to shed more fat, but also making sure that it isn't tapping into recovery or performance.

I wish it was "easier" for me to get lean. I mean I can put in tons of work and still have significant layers of bodyfat throughout. That body fat is definitely useless, would love if it just disappeared Running economy improves considerably the leaner you are, from my experience.

peace!

This is actually where I'm stuck. Still doing IF for the most part but I just don't think it's going to work. Doing it while lifting only is easy AF. I can train on BCAAs and caffeine and then make up everything else at the end of the day.

exactly .. non-stop effort changes the game dramatically.

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Adding in running, swimming, cycling, etc is way harder. Don't know if that and IF is possible but I'd imagine probably not. That's a huge stumbling block for me and I can feel it when I'm training.

yea damn. You are meticulous and good at figuring things out so, I imagine you'll come up with something that works for you.

For me, as long as I eat good the day before, then fuel up "slightly" before a workout, i'm fine.

For me lately, just some oatmeal w/ honey gives me enough to get a workout going. So, when I wakeup, knock out a small breakfast and i'm good for the track etc. Same thing for races as well, but I like my no-sauce pizza slices Key being, just has to be something. Definitely can't be just coffee/bcaa's etc -> I tried just coffee before one race and almost died (that's what it felt like, death).

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As far as bodyfat goes I seem to drop it pretty well when I eat relatively clean and don't drink too much. Getting that consistency is hard though but I really want to get to around 10 as like you said pretty much everything improves.

yup! nice. not drinking too much is an easy thing to knock off, or should be at least!

i'm probably back to like 11% or something, it's ridiculous lol. The leanest I got was on 2x/day ~90+ miles per week. Mileage really does matter in my experience. With that mileage, I just couldn't-NOT (lol) drop fat. It's easy to hit that mileage too. It's not as hard as people think. 2x/day running makes it easy. And, if you're in a base phase with no competitions coming up, it's very simple to do IMHO. The problem is when you have races and stuff coming up, that kind of training can make you alot slower, CNS is just poop. You can still knockout some good 5k+ races/times but, mile & below really suffer IMHO.

peace!

Haha figuring out this eating thing has occupied a lot of mental space lately. I'm not sure I'm getting anywhere but still trying.

Yeah I'm only drinking 2-3 times a week and only a couple of drinks a time (2 beers/2 glasses of wine) so it's not too bad. Plan to cut it further in the coming weeks.

You know what, I forget that I'm actually still building. Even though I have two events planned in the next 2 months they're really just trials so even though I do care about performance it means very little. I then get to do a real offseason and build properly where I can ramp up the volume.