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wait so if 100 is more important, why didn't you run the 100 in the comp? was there not a race? sorry if you've already answered that and i just can't remember.

Yeah there's two programs that they run - 100/400/1500/LJ/javelin and 200/800/3000/TJ/discus programs (all other events run both times). The comp is every two weeks so you basically get to run a 100m once a month unless you qualify for a different competition held sporadically on other weekends. Because the last 100m round was cancelled I'm only gonna get to run two or three more 100s max before the season ends. And yes, this does suck!

662
Comp:

200m - 25.36 (-0.3sec on last round)

Shot put - 8.82m (+70cm on last round)

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/qfhqyyjc5uhkfgi/BcpLTcMqJS/Round10/Yellow-Round-10-Individual-22feb14-700pm.pdf

My L leg shin splint was a bit sore at start of warmups but faded away. Took 1000mg aspirin before warming up and it seemed to help. Marginal improvement in the 200, still pathetically slow though in the last 70-80m. I ran in heat 2 and I was right up with everyone until about the 120m mark. That's OK, it's just a bit of fun at the moment. If I could get back to my old times I'd be fine with that. The more important stuff is the 100m, vertical obviously, and measures of power like the bounds and shot put throws. Shot put was good at least.

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Track/gym:

Dynamic warmup

2x5 consec broads

2x5/leg SL bounds

800m time trial - 2:39sec (big improvement in fitness here)

Gym:

Squat: 4x5@120kgs

In between sets - usual ham/core stuff (window washers x 30, incline situps x 30, elbow-to-knee crunches x 50, standing ham curl machine: 2x15/leg@20kgs, lying ham curl (DL conc, SL ecc): 1x10@25kgs)

Power cleans: 4x70kgs (failed BADLY at this. It was just not working today)

Seated rows, lat pull

Bench: 1x10@75kgs (getting easier)

BW: 78.5kgs

1000mg aspirin beforehand. I wasn't planning on doing the bounds/800m but I felt fine during warmups. I think if I can get through the training with no pain, and treat them at night, hopefully they will fade away. Haven't had any more aspirin since and they feel OK right now. Obviously taking aspirin every session is not feasible, so if it doesn't go away soon I'll stop training for a bit. Pretty decent session, except the power cleans. I don't know why but I just could not pull the damn weight up! I think I was just tired.

663
Track/gym (yesterday):

Dynamic warmup (+5kg weight vest)

2x5 consecutive broad jumps

2x5/leg SL bounds

5-6 shot put throws

Gym:

Speed squats: 3x15@45kgs/15 seconds

3 assistance core/ham exercises

Push press w/split jerk: 3x20@40kgs/15 seconds (getting better)

3 more assistance core/ham stuff

Bench: 1x11@72.5kgs

Power clean: 3x3@60kgs

BW: 78.5kgs

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Track:

1200m jog, dynamic warmup

2x120m/flying 80m ---> had to pull out because of shin splint pain

Cool-down weights

BW: 78.5kgs

Shin splints on left leg flared up during warmups. My times were a bit slow compared to previous weeks so I decided to pull the pin. It's not too bad, definitely had worse and I'm self-massaging and icing atm. Also starting to take NSAIDs for them (just aspirin as recommended by several guys in the group who've had them before, better than diclofenac or ibuprofen apparently). The training load has been pretty big for the past 3 weeks so I'm not surprised I'm starting to feel it a bit.

P.S. 75kgs x 8 FS from the other day:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnL9tTvS-Gw" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnL9tTvS-Gw</a>

664
Track (yesterday):

400m jog, dynamic warmup

Starting drills (falling starts, crouch starts)

4x50m block starts

Cable work: 4x50m puller/4x50m pullee

300m - no idea what time

Cool-down UB/core weights

BW: 78.5kgs

Competing in the 200m this weekend and then there's State Championships the week after. There's no qualifying standards to enter (which is crazy) so it means I get an extra 100m in this season despite being shit. Not expecting to make it past the heats  :huh:.

665
Weekend:

I wanted to jump this past weekend but the court I planned to use was booked when I got there (despite me calling earlier). Went to the track around 5PM:

800m jog, dynamic warmup

Starting drills

3x40m block starts

3x120m re-accels

Cool-down UB/core stuff

BW: 78.5kgs

Next day around 10AM I did some SVJs on my vertec. It was a bit wet so I didn't do any RVJs. SVJs were nothing special, around 32''. Probably not fully recovered from the track session earlier. Also used my squat rack, just did some light bench, and some front squats. I think my rack position/strength has improved from doing power cleans. Did 75kgs x 8, which is an improvement already despite not doing them for months. Will post video later.

666
Getting up there! Rocking a sweet beard as well.

667
Track:

800m jog, dynamic warmup

4x120m/80m w/20m rolling start - average times: 14.5sec/9.2sec --> about the same

Coll-down UB

BW:78.5kgs

668
So you don't to hang cleans?

Anyway, can you film the cable stuff that you're doing?

No hang cleans. All we do is power cleans apparently. I haven't attempted to film anything yet. Haven't seen anyone really do it, but I'm planning on bringing up the idea soon. It's tricky because there's a lot of high-school age kids in the group and the Uni gets a bit funny about filming minors.

669
Track (yesterday):

800m jog, dynamic warmup

Starting drills (falling starts, crouch starts)

4x50m block starts

Cable work: 4x50m puller/4x50m pullee

400m - 58-59 sec

Cool-down UB/core weights

BW: 78kgs

Gym:

Dynamic warmup (+5kg weight vest)

2x5 consec broad jumps  (+5kg weight vest)

2x5/leg SL bounds  (+5kg weight vest)

Speed squat: 1x15@42.5kgs, 2x15@45kgs, 1x15@47.5kgs (all in 15 seconds)

Core/hamstring exercises between sets

Split jerk: 1x10@25kgs, 3x15-18@40kgs (all in 15 seconds)

Power cleans: 7@60kgs

3 SVJs (very low at this stage)

BW: 78kgs

Well I haven't noticed a BW change since starting creatine. My arms do look slightly bigger though. I got a bit of piriformis pain in R glute after all the cable stuff. Wasn't too bad the next day, took a bit of voltaren to get ready for the next training and it was OK. I might not be activating the glutes well enough at the moment, will incorporate more glute bridges during warmups.

Something 'clicked' today doing PCs. I felt the momentum from the second pull elevate the weight more so than usual, and it wasn't difficult to get good rack position in the catch. Starting to put it together.

670
Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: February 10, 2014, 05:46:02 am »
I disagree with not bulking or cutting and just maintaining a low bodyfat. That would have been around 75kg for me, how strong can I be at that bodyweight? No chance of front squatting 150kg, some chance of backsquatting 150kg but that's about it. Could I have got more athleticism out of that bodyweight by switching to RFD work. Possibly, but it's not like i was in danger of cleaning 140kg being that weak. If my front squat is around 160kg, and i'm lean and strong, there is a chance of having a decent clean, maybe not 140kg, maybe 120kg. But at 75kg i doubt I could clean over 100kg! Guys remember even at 90kg, i'm not super muscular, i have barely begun to get big enough to move heavy iron. If i was 8% at 90kg, maybe i would be just doing RFD work right now and just beasting.

Well, this discussion is only happening because you're saying what you're doing isn't working. Maybe for you, both the cut and the bulk are happening over too short a time-frame for any practical use. A 150kg HBBS and 100kg clean would be very respectable numbers at 75kgs, by the way.

671
Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: February 09, 2014, 11:23:13 pm »
Here is the story. My lifts are all over the place, i'm losing anywhere from 15kg to 40kg on my squats since january when I wrapped up RSR2. I'm finally adapted to playing basketball and come out well recovered the day after. Which is great news because this means I can keep improving my game skills gradually. My conditioning is still very poor, i'd put it at 2/10, and only because I feel I made the jump from 1/10 yesterday. Still really really fat, the more weight i lose, the fatter I think i am, which i think is a normal and unfortunate feature of cutting.

So in this situation where i'm struggling to keep my head over water, when i'm trying only to lose 10-15kg on my squats, i don't really have time to add in extra exercises which prob won't do anything for me right now because they'll eat into recovery for squats. Yes i know in theory you can do make it work, in practice i am already struggling and that's without even doing any extra work.

I really am quite stuck right now for ideas. I know there are a ton of ideas out there, but i have to reconcile that with my body and personal experience and i know most of the programs would never work for me.

I haven't even got a day to day plan for what to do in the gym. Kind of freestyling it based on mood and feel.. :/

My only advice is to stop worrying about the squats right now. It sounds like you've got a lot of work to do to get fit, fast and skilled for your bball comp. Something has to give if you're cutting. Unfortunately it just seems you struggle to make strength gains from bulking stick during the cut back down to weight. Which kind of makes you wonder if for you, that whole strategy is flawed. This is long-term thinking of course, but have you ever considered NOT bulking/cutting, just trying your hardest to get to an athletic bodyfat %, establishing baseline strength levels for the major lifts, then centering your training around speed and basketball skill development and periodically alternating between short-term power/RFD blocks WITHOUT drastic bodyweight changes?

From what I've seen all over the web and in real-life in my club (and mostly from what my coach has been telling me), developing high bar squat strength during the 'off-season' (or other similar heavy, 'slow' compound lifts) is great for developing sufficient musculature and a power base for the 'season'. The power base is continually utilised during training for your specific sport (sprints, basketball, volleyball, whatever) and more of an emphasis is placed on the increasing measures of power during the season (i.e. broad jumps, std triple jumps, bounds, shot tosses, verticals, power cleans and other oly lifts). HB squat strength of most of the guys in the club usually decreases during this time, simply because it's not done much and the neural connections for the particular movement are de-emphasised. The coach will attempt to ensure his athletes aren't dropping too much strength during the season by keep squats semi-high intensity but with lower volume to make sure the important stuff is done well. For example, atm he prescribes 1x10@10RM (75% load) after all power work is done. Other coaches might do higher intensity lower rep stuff but it works for him. Now, would it be good if squat numbers went up during the season as well? Of course! But it isn't realistic in highly trained athletes (even amateurs like us), and probably not crucial either.

He also subscribes to Charlie Francis and others in that athletes shouldn't need to gain excessive mass over their careers. His rule of thumb is body fat should be kept in single digits during on-season and it's OK if it goes to double digits during off-season, but never over 15% (depending on natural bf levels). In other words, if he saw how you have been training over the past few months he would probably have a heart attack  :D. Just food for thought.

672
How fast are the 60 kg power cleans?

At first they were fairly slow. They're getting better apparently but I'm still kind of just reverse curling the weight rather than driving it up with hips. The weight isn't really heavy (I'm sure I could do 10-20kg more with crappy form) so there's a bit of a tendency to pull with the arms still rather than do it properly. But it'll take time, I'm fully confident in the coach's instruction so I'll just keep practising under his guidance.

673
Track/gym:

Dynamic warmup

2x5 consecutive broad jumps

2x5/leg SL bounds

600m run - 2:00.2

Gym:

6x5 power cleans @60kgs

Accessory core, hamstring exercises between sets

Squat: 1x10@95kgs (still easy)

Bench: 1x10@75kgs (a few failed reps though)

3 SVJs afterwards...felt OK.

BW: 78kgs

Well I've trained 5 times in the last week, definitely more than I'm used to. But I'm holding up OK. The only thing that might be an issue is that my old shin splints on medial L leg flare up a little during the bounds. They usually disappear after that and hurt a bit after training. But nothing too bad, especially given the volume of jumps/bounds/sprints. I was expecting much worse. I've been massaging calves every night and doing some KStar exercises for them as well. No other real injury issues, tib-fib has mostly disappeared.

No competition this week so heading home - plan to do some vertical tests on 10' ring and finally use my home gym! Then there's competition on the next two weeks with the State Championships on the second weekend - hoping to run <12.2 in the 100m.

674
Yeah that sounds better, you want a bit more volume than what you posted if you're only doing one session/week for UB/LB. Doing LB first to give your legs more time to recover for your training on Tuesday.

675
I've been meaning to start a 5g a day creatine supplement (I'm with you on the 20+ loading phase :/ ) but Ive been lazy/un-dedicated/etc. Very curious to see your results!

Yep! We'll see.

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Competition was cancelled today because it was so hot goddamit. So we did a morning training session instead:

Track:

800m jog, dynamic warmup

Starting drills on the bend

4x40m block starts on bend

4x130m re-accelerations (had my last 40m timed twice - 5.0 and 5.1  :huh: )

Cool-down weights

BW: 78kgs



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