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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: June 06, 2016, 02:09:36 pm »
rest as a form of converting more IIa/IIx fibers

I remember reading about this in Supertraining, lol. I think the context is a little different though, the rest period that was referred to was prolonged rest, like more than a week.

Yup, we interpret it differently. But you couldn't know. Well, 'courage' is a Greek word that indeed is originally used just as you described ( or as wikipedia describes ). Even the physical aspect of courage has to do with bravery, to deal with the physical limitation. However, in everyday Greek, we ( probably falsely ) also use it to just denote being too tired to do something, like so tired it takes bravery to overcome it, but not meaning the bravery literally. It is a way of being pompous about the tired statement. It is also most probably wrong if you ask a literature teacher, but it is still very common.

Also, this is kind of cool. I think both versions of the word are defined by the concept of willpower: you need willpower to push yourself to do something courageous, but you also need willpower to push yourself to train when you are really tired. So they're not so different after all.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: FP's log
« on: June 05, 2016, 12:17:20 pm »
Just want to clarify about the Gladwell article: The original quote I have is him explaining why the common person might think someone of african descent might have a genetic advantage in athletics. This is the part of the article where he acknowledges the opposing viewpoint. The rest of the article consists of him arguing against this perspective. If you read the second quote you'll see that his main argument is essentially the same as yours, T0ddday: people born in west africa have much more genetic variability because everyone was originally from Africa. More genetic variability = more athletes further away from the average.

Hilariously enough, he also gives an example almost EXACTLY like the one you made: about how the media perpetuates racism and white athletes are praised for their work ethic while black athletes accomplishments are chalked off as "talent" even though that's bullshit and everyone works very hard to be a top level athlete.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: FP's log
« on: June 05, 2016, 12:22:14 am »
That sucks that you got food poisoning! Any idea of where you got it from?

Some old meatballs. It sucked cause that was the day I was finally getting my diet in order and didn't eat any trashy food.. And ended up staying up pretty much the entire night puking and dry heaving.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: FP's log
« on: June 04, 2016, 06:00:34 pm »
Trying to figure out what's caused by environment and what's caused by genetics is tough, a lot of the time next to impossible. But it's great that we managed to have a discussion about what's generally considered a socially taboo topic.

I'm gonna get back to logging my shit tho lol.

5/31-6/1
Got food poisoning. A lot of throwing up and other fun things related to upset stomach.

6/2
League game: we won. Got an "almost layout-D" and a pointblock. Mark looked good.
+60 mins throwing

6/3
Pickup 4v4 - 90 mins. Nothing interesting here.

6/4
Tryout tourney for mid level mixed team called 8-bit. We lost 13-3 against AHype which sucked.

Defense: Got 2 pointblocks, didn't get broken for yards. Got skied badly by a teammate from my college I underestimated, this time going up SVJ (he went up SLRVJ). Got 2 "almost layout-D's".
Offense: Handled (threw) most of the time, didn't turn anything.  Not a lot of chemistry between me and my teammates. 2 drops.

Dunno what the hell is going on. I'm becoming a much more consistent and overall a better player but I feel like I'm losing my edge. I used to never get skied. I didn't throw a single long throw the whole game. Unforced drops are the most frustrating of all. On one of them I got distracted by the defenders attempt to get a layout D (he wasn't very close), on the other the thrower threw a high pass while I was running at him and I had an SLRVJ with both hands into the disc and just dropped it.

Back injury from 5/31 still has not gone away. I feel some pain when arching the lower lumbar/sacral spines. I have another tryout tomorrow.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: FP's log
« on: June 03, 2016, 10:43:45 pm »
I agree about being PC to an extent. There are some gray areas like mental disorders where people begin to make excuses and make themselves victims. I know I have done this.  Also when you live in a super liberal area like me where pretty much EVERY person my age is always PC it can really make it hard to voice a dissenting opinion cause you know everyone's gonna jump on your back for it.

For example it took me 45 mins to type up my previous message because I knew it wasn't PC and I couldn't think of a way to say what I really think without being offensive.

So I found this article by Malcolm Gladwell that kind of cleared things up for me in regard to why it seems like black guys are more genetically gifted athletes.

Here's kind of my reasoning for why I had this perspective:
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According to the medical evidence, African-Americans seem to have, on the average, greater bone mass than do white Americans-a difference that suggests greater muscle mass. Black men have slightly higher circulating levels of testosterone and human-growth hormone than their white counterparts, and blacks over all tend to have proportionally slimmer hips, wider shoulders, and longer legs. In one study, the Swedish physiologist Bengt Saltin compared a group of Kenyan distance runners with a group of Swedish distance runners and found interesting differences in muscle composition: Saltin reported that the Africans appeared to have more blood-carrying capillaries and more mitochondria (the body’s cellular power plant) in the fibres of their quadriceps. Another study found that, while black South African distance runners ran at the same speed as white South African runners, they were able to use more oxygen- eighty-nine per cent versus eighty-one per cent-over extended periods: somehow, they were able to exert themselves more. Such evidence suggested that there were physical differences in black athletes which have a bearing on activities like running and jumping, which should hardly come as a surprise to anyone who follows competitive sports.

To use track as an example-since track is probably the purest measure of athletic ability-Africans recorded fifteen out of the twenty fastest times last year in the men’s ten-thousand- metre event. In the five thousand metres, eighteen out of the twenty fastest times were recorded by Africans. In the fifteen hundred metres, thirteen out of the twenty fastest times were African, and in the sprints, in the men’s hundred metres, you have to go all the way down to the twenty-third place in the world rankings-to Geir Moen, of Norway-before you find a white face. There is a point at which it becomes foolish to deny the fact of black athletic prowess, and even more foolish to banish speculation on the topic.

He provides some explanations for why black athletes are proportionately overrepresented in athletics:
He talks about learned helplessness, which undoubtable already mentioned
But he also talks about this, which I previously did not know:
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The likelihood is that these results reflect Africa’s status as the homeland of Homo sapiens: since every human population outside Africa is essentially a subset of the original African population, it makes sense that everyone in such a population would be a genetic subset of Africans, too. So you can expect groups of Africans to be more variable in respect to almost anything that has a genetic component. If, for example, your genes control how you react to aspirin, you’d expect to see more Africans than whites for whom one aspirin stops a bad headache, more for whom no amount of aspirin works, more who are allergic to aspirin, and more who need to take, say, four aspirin at a time to get any benefit-but far fewer Africans for whom the standard two-aspirin dose would work well. And to the extent that running is influenced by genetic factors you would expect to see more really fast blacks-and more really slow blacks-than whites but far fewer Africans of merely average speed.

So, back to my original comment. It was racist. I was mad that I got beat and I thought I could use race as an excuse. I was wrong.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: FP's log
« on: June 01, 2016, 09:08:48 pm »
"EDIT: tryout went decent. got skied pretty terribly by a skinny 5' 10" black guy. I tried to go up off my left leg with my left arm..."

I'm not at all trying to call you out as racist, but I have to ask - is this some ultimate frisbee thing where race is always mentioned?  I've just played traditional sports - football, basketball, track but it sounds really foreign to hear this but it's something I feel like I have now heard multiple times from people who play sports like lacrosse or ultimate frisbee - this rhetoric of "oh they had this one fast black kid."   Maybe it's just coincidence, but considering all my friends who got into lacrosse and frisbee are white and I'm mixed it was enough to make me feel pretty weird about those sports.  Just wondering.

I'd just suspect that a sport that is majority x-race, athletes would mention the race of someone who is y-race.. seems common from what i've seen. Usually it's not racist, it's just some kind of distinguishing feature that somehow is used to label someone.. However, i've witness it used in racist ways.

I do agree with what adarq said, I've only played fris with maybe a couple handfuls of black guys. I have heard people make jokes about "blacks superior athleticism" but i dunno if people do that in other sports too.

Although... I do think the comment I made was racist. Maybe I am subconsciously racist. I want to be straight up about who I am but I honestly just don't know. I've never seen myself as racist and I don't want to blame environmental factors but I did spend my childhood in Ukraine, which is pretty much all-white and terribly racist. My mom and dad are both a little bit racist and my uncle thinks there's going to be a war between black and white people.

It was most likely just a random lapse of judgement.

EDIT: Is it racist to believe that black guys have a genetic advantage in athletics? Out of the couple of handfuls of black athletes I have played with in frisbee, almost all were well above average athletes. You could just say it's self-fulfilling prophecy and black and white people are pretty much the same. I'm probably just ignorant. It makes me cringe just typing this up. But then again I can't change my perspective without acknowledging it. I hope you can accept me as I am.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: FP's log
« on: May 31, 2016, 11:28:47 pm »
5/30

Drove down to VA to watch Ultimate Nationals teams scrimmages (mens, womens and mixed). So many of the best players of the USA there. Took a good amount of notes: the biggest difference between me and the players on the mens team is their crazy speed endurance. Definitely gotta hit my aerobic system hard this summer. I'm thinking swimming, rollerblading and biking are all great options that will hopefully not take away much of my speed gains.

Workout #9, GPP #5

BP: 115 x 10, 135 x 8, 140 x 8, 8, 5 (2 min rests)
Superset x4:
- Leg Raises (off bench) 20, 20, 20, 16
- Right Banded Clams 10-15
Superset x3:
- Pullups: 8, 7, 4
- Left Banded Clams 10-15

5/31

Mixed tryout/pickup (low-mid level: this is my college's team, new this year. Mix of A and B team guys/girls)

Highlights:
-Got open on almost every cut.
-People complimented my quickness again. This has never happened prior to the last tryout .

Lowlights:
-Tweaked my back. Groin also felt off. My body can't handle my new stride frequency.
-Throws looked like shit. due to sweaty hands and also poor wrist snap.
-2 unforced drops. I pride myself on my catching, this is REAL bad news.
-Got really flustered around a pretty girl. Dammit lol

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: FP's log
« on: May 29, 2016, 08:02:25 pm »
5/28

Had a mixed tryout today (mid level team). Really happy with how I played.
Highlights:
-Layout D poaching the cutting lane! I've never gotten one of these (poaching the in-cut) before, my awareness is improving.
-One of the captains complimented my quickness (initial acceleration speed)!!! All those sprint starts are definitely helping.
-Mark was great. Don't remember being broken at all.
-We ran a suicide at the end (about 600m) and I finished first (out of like 25-30 dudes, 15-20 girls) barely beating out one of the captains! Had to lay down for like 20 mins afterwards lol.

Right hamstring pretty achy, gonna take a few days-week to focus on core/upper body.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Party's Over!
« on: May 29, 2016, 12:08:24 am »
You ever gonna get back into sprinting/track work? Looked through your old log, you had some awesome times back in the day

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: FP's log
« on: May 28, 2016, 06:41:51 pm »
5/27

Workout #8, SPP #1

slip n' slide layouts x 45 mins
warm up: leg swings, high knees, butt kicks
Testing new cleats: various cutting patterns, focus on acceleration x 30 mins
40m sprints (100%) x 6

Kind of just fucking around. Was gonna vid the layouts but it's kind of pointless until I can set up some sort of measurement for height and distance. Video will also give me useful things like GCT and leg/body angles for different amounts of steps/different runup speeds.

I've always wondered just how much extra distance a layout gives over a full sprint. I know some track runners have used dives to finish races with mixed results.

DualNBack x 20

5/28
BW: 179.0
Right groin very tight, strangely enough.

Throws x 60 mins: mostly fucking around, ironing out my lefty backhand upwind. Towards the end it was pretty consistent and accurate to about 25 yards.

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Yeah my hip has also become manageable and it's now more of a nuisance because it often gets tight but pain is not really present anymore
haha... weird. hip circles are also something that my hip doesn't like. we might be on to something here. other exercises I tried to do and had to ditch because they felt uncomfortable were weighted leg raises and bulgarian splitsquats.

I  notice that my left leg has restricted flexion+internal rotation ROM. I think it has something to do with the hip socket not being loose enough in that direction. Some other telling symptoms of hip issues for me are sleeping is most comfortable at kind of a 45 degree angle (facing down and to the side) as well as sometimes sitting asymmetrically and sometimes standing with my weight on 1 leg. My persisting issue with my left groin likely has to have something to do with this too. BSS and sprints aggravate my injury. Didn't you have impingement Leonel. Someone posted in my journal about it a while ago.

I have right knee pain too, MCL: mostly I notice it after heavy squats, esp when I do them with a more knee dominant technique.


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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: FP's log
« on: May 26, 2016, 08:28:21 pm »
5/26
BW: 178.6 post-workout, haven't eaten anything all day
Had an amazing dream that included exotic architecture and otherworldly beings. The message seemed to highlight my current dry spell without making art and internal struggle with materialism. First dream I memorized in a while, kind of want to start keeping a dream journal again. Would be cool to have lucid dreams again, haven't had one in a while.

Pickup with high school kids : 80 mins. Handled on offense and played mark in the cup on defense. Throws not looking good: more specifically field vision. Don't think I turned any swings or uplines or any easy throws. Mark is decent. Got like 3 or 4 pointblocks, granted it's against high school kids.

Workout #7, Track #1

Warmup: lunge walks, butt kicks, high knees, leg swings, lateral leg swings
Drills: A-skips 50mx2, B-skips 50mx2
15-20m sprints, focus on start x8
100m sprints (100%) x2 5-min recovery

Gassed after second 100m. Was still kind of dizzy 20 minutes later. Should've eaten something today...............
Runs didn't feel fast or slow. Traps and upper back muscles were a little sore immediately after the second 100m.




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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: FP's log
« on: May 25, 2016, 03:09:20 pm »
sucks about hype. have you done a postmortem with yourself on why you got cut?

good luck with the abstentions, seems like a good call.

Lots of things. LOTS:
1. I'm kind of out of shape. Notice myself getting tired too easily during points. My throws, vertical and decision making have a hard drop-off when I'm tired. Harder drop-off than most people, I've noticed. Or maybe I run too hard right away and don't manage my energy well enough.
2. My offensive cutting needs more awareness and variety.
3. My first 0-20m speed is considerably worse than my 20-40m speed. First 3 steps are way more important to Ultimate.
4. I suck at throwing to girls. I overthrow my hucks to fast dudes, you can imagine what my hucks look like playing mixed.
5. My in-game break throws tend to be high release which is not good. Not enough faking.
6. Unless I'm feeling reaally in the zone, on cutter defense I play a step-off deep which essentially gives the other team free 5-10 yard in-cuts unless I outrun my guy hardcore. I HAVE TO STOP DOING THIS.
7. My in-game awareness of the wind is pretty bad.
8. I'm really bad at making friends. Honestly my biggest weakness, cause Ultimate is all about chemistry and trust. My biggest strength is probably winning 50-50's (high vert+great hands) but fat load of good that does me if no one trusts me enough to throw hucks. I don't think I got thrown a single deep shot during the Hype tryout that went bad. Or maybe my cut timing is really bad or something. I dunno.

interesting. getting into better shape is simple (run more) and improving cutting nearly as simple (drills, with a partner if you can swing it -- look up football route running tips). but the easiest fix from a tryout perspective might be your throws. i had to learn from harsh criticism in college that my hucks were not reliable enough to be attempting as many as i was. it was embarrassing but good advice. a couple years into club my throws improved somewhat and i started handling more. and even then i was fairly conservative.

so, some unsolicited advice (which i know you love hearing from me): next time you have a tryout, when you get the disc focus on completing every single pass, no matter how conservative. no hucks unless someone is open by 15 yards and there's no wind. get it to a handler or at the very least let someone else turf it! if you make a couple of standout plays on O or especially D, and don't make glaring mistakes, you've made a good impression.

No one is ever open by 15 yards deep at club level lol. I will definitely do some route running tho, gotta renew my gym membership to start swimming too

5/24
BW:179.8

Workout #5, Agility #1

90 minutes ladder work

+8 hours

Workout #6, GPP #4
BP 135 3x8 , 6 (2 min rests)
Leg raises off bench: 5x20
Eccentric Groin rehab: 3x20
Superset x3:
-Banded Hip drives x10
-Left leg banded knee drives +3sec hold x12
-Right leg banded knee drives +3sec hold x12



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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: FP's log
« on: May 24, 2016, 03:44:30 am »
5/23
BW: 181.2 (been going way over calorie count with shitty food)
Relapsed on NoFap 2 days ago. Doesn't matter, will keep at it

league game: 90 mins. No highlights except a nice toe drag to save a pass from going out of bounds. Lost 15-10. No turns or drops either though.. Hmm. Defensively played below average.

Workout #4: GPP session #3
BP: 130 3x8 (2 min rests)
Deep squat: 245 x5, 260 5x5 (2:30 min rests)
Rack Pull: 135x10, 205x8, 255x8, 275x8 (4 min rest before last set)
Pullup: 6,6,2 (2:30 min rests)
SL Plank banded knee drives: 15,10,15 each leg

Squat really strong, went ATG for the last reps of set 5. Rep 6 of 275 rack pull felt so easy, but reps 7,8 low back almost collapsed... Which means problems with glute activation.

NEXT SESSION NEEDS TO BE SPRINTS!!!!!

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: FP's log
« on: May 24, 2016, 01:47:27 am »
sucks about hype. have you done a postmortem with yourself on why you got cut?

good luck with the abstentions, seems like a good call.

Lots of things. LOTS:
1. I'm kind of out of shape. Notice myself getting tired too easily during points. My throws, vertical and decision making have a hard drop-off when I'm tired. Harder drop-off than most people, I've noticed. Or maybe I run too hard right away and don't manage my energy well enough.
2. My offensive cutting needs more awareness and variety.
3. My first 0-20m speed is considerably worse than my 20-40m speed. First 3 steps are way more important to Ultimate.
4. I suck at throwing to girls. I overthrow my hucks to fast dudes, you can imagine what my hucks look like playing mixed.
5. My in-game break throws tend to be high release which is not good. Not enough faking.
6. Unless I'm feeling reaally in the zone, on cutter defense I play a step-off deep which essentially gives the other team free 5-10 yard in-cuts unless I outrun my guy hardcore. I HAVE TO STOP DOING THIS.
7. My in-game awareness of the wind is pretty bad.
8. I'm really bad at making friends. Honestly my biggest weakness, cause Ultimate is all about chemistry and trust. My biggest strength is probably winning 50-50's (high vert+great hands) but fat load of good that does me if no one trusts me enough to throw hucks. I don't think I got thrown a single deep shot during the Hype tryout that went bad. Or maybe my cut timing is really bad or something. I dunno.

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