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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Strength rankings
« on: February 11, 2011, 12:48:51 pm »
GODDAMMIT

Less posting shit, more talking shit aka calling each other pussies and showing off immense strength to prove points.

I'll set it off; WHY did Kingfish ever favourite this video?
Get his ass in the EMO thread NOW



i probably clicked the wrong icon to get useless stuff into favorites.. 

Jard u mad?  :P

LIAR!

What other button could you have clicked instead?

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Strength rankings
« on: February 11, 2011, 11:12:01 am »
WHY did Kingfish ever favourite this video?

 :ninja:

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Kingfish
« on: February 11, 2011, 04:00:54 am »
HAHAHAHA "different wood". Wood sound good as a light material for shoes.

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: Can I have analysis on my jump technique please
« on: February 10, 2011, 04:26:09 pm »
0:17 looks basically perfect to me... and I never say "perfect".

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: Dave Tate on human potential
« on: February 10, 2011, 04:24:34 pm »
Oh, and another thing. You're also not lifting any of your body weight with the leg press machine, which you do in a squat.

Btw, that's something nobody realizes. Go ahead, put on a 30lb weight vest and squatting your 5RM will be much more difficult (even assuming that the vest doesn't get in the way or change your form at all). Leg press takes away stabilization needed, lifting at an angle and thus reducing force needed, plus takes away the bodyweight that you have to lift.

No, we do realize it. Lance said that already, that's why I haven't said it myself.

Quote from: Lance
then factor in that youre not lifting your bodyweight

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: de franco box squats
« on: February 10, 2011, 04:20:28 pm »
Reactive is what you make of it... "Adarq.org - Dedicated to athletic performance enhancement," ATHLETIC being the key word. No "athletic" positon consists of your ass being lower than your knees, or your knees past your toes. Yes you're right, free squats do strengthen your legs. BUT the risks FAR outweigh the benefits. I'd rather have my knees intact long enough to enjoy the benefits of squatting.

When's the last time you saw a BodyBuilder run the 40? They can't because their joints are destroyed from free squats. (Maybe some roids too.)

This site doesn't know the difference between a Hang Clean and a Power Clean.

You're either a troll or like - very stupid. I mean that sincerely. I wouldn't lie to you.

So, first you take a sentence that talks about reactivity and then YOU talk about ass to grass squats. What's the connection of that with reactivity? You can be reactive regardless of squat depth. So you either don't know what the word reactive means, or you're just... crazy.

Then you say above parallel squats are safer for the knees than full squats. I'll let others address that.

Bodybuilders have joints destroyed from full squats? It's intersting since the bodybuilders are the ones who usually quarter squat most of the time. And roids destroy joints? I was under the impression that they are prescribed after joint surgeries sometimes to help heal joint damage.

A hang clean is a "full" clean from the hang. A power clean is a clean with a high catch that is generally more specific to athletics since the goal is not to move a great weight on a short rom (as in a regular clean) but to move a "decent" weight over a longer ROM (for athletic benefits).

There are lots of clean and snatch variations: hang clean, hang power clean, power clean, clean, clean and jerk, jerk, powerjerk (well not really, but that could be reserved to you).

PS. Watch any great dunker and you'll see the knees going in front of their toes. Is that "100% healthy"? I don't know, especially at those velocities/power. Probably not. But that's not the same as a squat with good form. There are different limb lengths for different people, so deal with it.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: ARowe's Journal
« on: February 10, 2011, 04:04:02 pm »
Well yeah, and he looks all natural. Just lucky genetics :ninja:

















































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Article & Video Discussion / Re: Two foot jump technique
« on: February 10, 2011, 05:46:00 am »
Well film it so we can have a look

By the way - this is pretty good as well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ipv_5QIVNt8

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: Dave Tate on human potential
« on: February 10, 2011, 03:05:52 am »
btw raptor i read the article, please dont try to debunk it, cuz youll get owned by him

I might like it.

There are other OBVIOUS reasons why you leg press much more than you squat and I don't think quad strength has anything to do with it, or if it does, then it's a far away factor in terms of importance.

yea, raptor is right.  The fact that you are leg pressing the weight at an ANGLE, not vertically, reduces the load immensely in itself, then factor in that youre not lifting your bodyweight, then factor in joint angles, rom, etc, and you cant compare loads in leg press/squat accurately at all.

Exactly. Quad strength is not an important factor at all vs these^^^

There's also no need to stabilize the weight and the weight point of pressure is on the hips/low back vs upperback, meaning you have a shorter lever in terms of weight application vs your body.

I mean, imagine if you had the same legs but your torso is 30 feet tall. If you put a bar on your back with the same weight you're squatting now, it's going to feel immense because it's so hard to stabilize a bar that is so far away from the point where the tension is generated (hips/legs).

Same goes with leg length. If you have a very long femur you're going to need a much higher strength base to stabilize the knee in a jump than a guy with a shorter femur.

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: Dave Tate on human potential
« on: February 10, 2011, 02:05:14 am »
btw raptor i read the article, please dont try to debunk it, cuz youll get owned by him

I might like it.

There are other OBVIOUS reasons why you leg press much more than you squat and I don't think quad strength has anything to do with it, or if it does, then it's a far away factor in terms of importance.

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I just have a theory, based on nothing than just plain good-ol' right side of the brain intuition, that high rep work helps elasticity. I just can't really explain why, but I feel like high rep lunges or high rep squats (say 20-50 reps per set) help elasticity (elasticity as gains during reactive movements like running one-leg jumps or running two-footed jumps). What do you think?

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: de franco box squats
« on: February 09, 2011, 04:58:10 pm »
Well yeah, because the box squat removes like 100% of the reactive component of the squat, and as an athlete you're not glad it does that.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: ARowe's Journal
« on: February 09, 2011, 04:47:12 pm »
Well, you're going to need a lot of money for so many roids.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: ADARQ's journal
« on: February 09, 2011, 03:00:42 pm »
Well you really didn't give yourself a chance to get out of convalescence...

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: Dave Tate on human potential
« on: February 09, 2011, 02:10:13 pm »
Dave Tate on box squatting:

http://articles.elitefts.com/articles/training-articles/efs-classic-squatting-from-head-to-toe/

The love of the box squat comes from the fact that it allows WPO powerlifting guys to mimic a competition squat while lifting in training without the suit.

It does have some uses with athletes though. It's very useful for teaching lankier guys who can't squat easily to load the posterior chain.

He says a lot of bullshit in that article though. Like, the quads are not that important for squats because if they were, we'd all be using leg press weights in the squats. I mean, you don't need me to start debunking that, right?

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