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I think you can do deadlifts with bar drops at the top while in-season, since they're going to be 100% concentric and will not create too much soreness. And since you're in-season you're going to have a lot of plyo so it's going to be plyo+deads.

Kelly, what do you think about my DJs + deadlifts idea? DJs should take care of the quads+calves and deadlifts of the posterior chain. And yes, I'm aware of TUT and CNS differences between this and using squats, but still...

Obviously it depends on what you're aiming for (strength, mass etc), although these things depend on other factors as well (food, rest times etc) but as a general idea, do you think depth jumps + deadlifts can be a valid replacement for squats?

4:31 - biceps curls bar on the floor. CAUGHT YOU!

My doc said don't do deadlifts cuz my couzin blowed his back out doing them....now he's in a wheelchair.......he was taking cleatine too with deadlifts and the doc said his kidneys are almost blowed out too from it.....plus it made his temper really bad and he wanted to kick everybody's ass and creatin made him put some other guy in the hospital cuz he went off playin a pickup game..

now he has blowed out kidneys and blowed out back and he's only 16

dont' do deadlifts and cleatine braa11!!

Nice job hacking Kelly's account.

ANYWAY - I know a guy who had a displaced kidney due to some 80 inch depth drops. Really, no kidding.

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Perfect squat.

Beast thread worthy

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Btw, if youre squatting deep enough, it is highly likely that your deadlift will go up along with your squat, if you only deadlift it is not as likely that your squat will go up in the same fashion.

Definitely, since a "good" deadlift is like a 1/4 squat, so it doesn't have as much (if any) carryover to a full squat as a full squat does to a deadlift.

The point is - could a deadlift and deadlift alone be used to gain muscle/strength (forget about jump specificity and all that, just pure muscle)?

Because, if it can, then you can just deadlift to gain muscle and do plyos to tweak and tune that muscle to act explosively.

For example, if you were to do depth jumps followed by deadlifts, then you'd get quad and calf stimuli by depth jumping, and also much more specificity than a squat for jumps, and deadlifts for the posterior chain as muscle growth stimuli.

How do you define "toning"?

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I was about to say that's not really that impressive, I thought he had only one weight vest on, but 3? WTF? You can't know how much they weigh though...

its 305lb all.
just read the youtube description...

I did bss with a 230 lbs barbell, i think it's harder than using vests and dbs...

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUmtj15rk9I" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUmtj15rk9I</a> < this is 220 lbs but i also did them with 230

imho barbell makes it easier because of the better weight distribution and therefore more balance

Are you crazy boy? What's easier to stabilize, a weight close to the ground or a weight far away from the ground?