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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« on: September 17, 2012, 10:45:36 pm »
120918 Revisit Depth drop and Depth jump after boing

Proven Fact:
Preform Depth Jump from different height to determine optimum box height, should be jumping from a box where max vert is achieved.

Scoobychau actual fact:
Scoobychau max vertical jump come from a running into a hop approach, with relative long ground contact time and excessive knee bend.  So during his depthjump box test, he did jump higher form a box, but the height remain constant for a series of box height.  And he was suggested to do it from the higher box as long as max vert is achieved.

Revisiting Depth jump/drop:
Box is likely too high.  My max vert come from long ground contact time and knee bend... this might be similar to a daily baller who achieved good Shooting % with bad form.  So he is hitting all the shot due to repetitive training but due to wrong form, there could be limitation.  Much like my jump...

Adjustment - Lower Box:
Depth Drop should be focusing on Glute shock stimulatoin, with less knee bend and more glute flex...
Depth Jump should be Quick Re-bounce off the ground, with focus on glute power, calf power, and quad (i am using 90% quad already).



120917 Depth Drop Jump Squat
Depth Drop (@24") & Depth Jump (@20") Alternation
5x4 of drop and 6x4 jump
in my last set of drop, I really focus on sitting back with less knee bend and felt much more on the glute ( i need to keep this in mind)
during my jump, I have to really focus in flexing my glude and calf, with max height and short contact time, otherwise i am just jumping with my quad...  (must keep this in mind in every rep from now on)


Squat and Calf raise alternation (calf on machine)
I never do my calf... so from now on, I will focus in it also.
S 45lbs.....1x8,
C 132lbs...1x12
S 135lbs...1x8,
C 145lbs...1x12
S 155lbs...1x8 Paused Squat,
C 159lbs...1x12
S 205lbs...2x5 Paused Squat,
C 172lbs...1x12
S 225lbs...1x5 Explosive Squat,
C 199lbs...1x12
S 247lbs...1x5,
C 212lbs...1x12
S 317lbs...1x1,
C 227lbs...1x12

Thinking about doing max effort approach jump practice tomorrow lunch... hope it will not over train...

Quote from: Raptor
Have you ever did hip thrusts, Scooby?

How good are your Romanian Deadlift numbers? In general, how good are you at hip-oriented exercises?

Hi Rap, I did body weight single leg hip thrust during boing vert... did it for a few weeks, thats about it.  I had not done any deadlift for over a year...  and even if i do dead lift, i rarely do Romanian or stiff leg style.. so I don know my current state any more.  When i try to do stiff leg or Roman style, I always feel like my Hamstring tendon is too tight or something...
Quote from: kingfish
your squat tonnage / total reps is too low. aim for at least 40 reps with your working weight


Thanks for visiting Kingfish, when u say 40 reps with working weight, u mean working toward the working weight right?  like yesterday, i squat from just the bar to 317 lbs with and did 7 set with a total of 40 rep (coincident), is that what you mean? or you mean i should i should be squatting HEAVY @ 40 reps

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« on: September 16, 2012, 11:25:34 pm »

120914 Finished Boing... Still planning on what to do..
Hang Clean
115lbs.....2x4

Squat
45lbs......1x8
135lbs.....1x8

Box Squat
225lbs.....1x5
225lbs.....1x10
245lbs.....1x5
275lbs.....1x5
295lbs.....2x3

Jump Squat
135lbs 1x8


Um.. I have no idea what i am doing... is Friday.. let's rest up.. and prepare for next week.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« on: September 13, 2012, 12:33:36 am »
120912  Last day of Boing Vert! Phs6 W2 D4 With no improvement!
No improvement at all, infact my jump preformance decreased.
Why? Because in the last week of this whole 4 month program, I started Squating and also did 2X30min cardio along.  The squat effect will obviously decrease my performance along of the overtrained feeling.

Anyway, I is completed, out of the 25 max effort approch jump, I had not reached the cable tray in any of the attempt, there were a few attempt that are very close.... but not close enough..

Squat Training:
45lbs......1x7
109lbs....1x7
135lbs....1x7
155lbs....1x7
185lbs....1x5
225lbs....1x3
275lbs....1x3
295lbs....1x2
315lbs....1x2
356lbs....1x1 VERY SLOW, Pause in time again... 1.95XBW
367lbs....FAILED at 2XBW again...
 :pissed:

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« on: September 12, 2012, 02:43:51 am »
120911 Upperbody circuit
Done 3 round trip with 80-90% weight.... taking it easy..

Sleep at 12:30 at night but end up waking up at 6:30 and roll around in bed till 7:30...
Still feel tire and sleepy at work.  Going to do final day of Boing Vert tomorrow, backed with squat. 
may be I will drink some coffee before Boing...

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: ADARQ's journal
« on: September 11, 2012, 03:25:55 am »
ADARQ IS BACK!!!!!
This is got the be best news of the month!

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« on: September 11, 2012, 02:28:19 am »
This is why I'm not a huge fan of arbitrary goals, they can make you rush unnecessarily, take shortcuts and neglect the essentials like rest and recovery. If I were you I'd definitely take a week off and test your vertical properly with rest and shitloads of caffeine.

Hi Acole, any instruction on how to take the caffeine/coffie? i try to search for such info with no luck.

120910 Boing Phs 6 W2 D3 + Squat training afterward.

Not able to Reach previouse max height in any of the approch jump today.

Squat Training:
45lbs    1x8
115lbs  1x8
135lbs  1x6
155lbs  1x6
215lbs  1x6
235lbs  1x3
255lbs  1x3
306lbs  1x1
326lbs  1x1
356lbs  1x1        (1.95 X BW) Video Cap
367lbs  1xFailed (2.01 X BW) Video Cap

Video:
https://vimeo.com/49218095



120911 Ultra Hot At lunch
Skipped 30 min cardio.... and eat some fatting chinese Chow Min at lunch... very evil tempting lunch.. ( i had been eating salad everday for a few weeks already... but today. i fail before Chow Min...

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« on: September 07, 2012, 12:05:29 am »
120907 Over Trained
It is kind of obvious that i am over trained.
Mon Wed : Boing + Squat
Tues Thu : Cardio + upper lift

With 6 hrs of sleep every day, My leg are constantly sore..
And kind of affect my sleep, I see zombie in my dream... wtf... kind of like that TV series (walking dead)
I will take Friday (today) off, and just stretch the hack out when I get home from work...

2 days left in Boing.. not expecting some magic gain... (but again, it asked me to rest for a week before testing. I don think i have a week to spare though)

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« on: September 06, 2012, 04:40:01 am »
120905 Lunch Boing Very Phs 6 W2 D2 at lunch in the sun
Sunny side up, hot like wtf...  Finished today jumping without any improvement....  :uhhhfacepalm:

120905 Night Squat for 40 min
45lbs   1x 8
115lbs 1x 8
137lbs 1x 7
157lbs 1x 7
179lbs 1x 5
216lbs 1x 5
238lbs 1x 4
260lbs 1x 4
282lbs 1x 3
356lbs Failed

I think i am over trained....

120906 Lunch Cardio 30 min Run
With McDonlad grilled chicken salad to wrap it up.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« on: September 04, 2012, 03:41:33 am »
120904 Cardio 30 min at lunch in the rain
The title set it all, aim to lose fat get light gain power and dunk.
Finished Mcdonald Grill chicken salad after the run... 10 min after already feel hungry..
Time to release my NUT lol...

120904 Upper circuit night in the rain

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« on: September 04, 2012, 03:39:58 am »
120903 Without finishing Boing Phs 6 W2 D1 and already start  Squating

Speed it all up, 6pm in gym, finish boing vert at 7:15pm. Out of the 25 rep of max effort approach jmp, only 1 or 2 is able to reach the cable tray.

Determined to start squat today, and aiming to finishing it in 30 min!
First time squatting in over 3 month, BW now at 184lbs
45lbs   X8
146lbs X8
166lbs X7
196lbs X6
216lbs X6
236lbs X6
256lbs X3
286lbs X3
306lbs X1
ok times up, and i am 15 min late... last rep for today
356lbs X1  ( 1.9BW squat)

Video: http://vimeo.com/48738582
Got stuck in time for a brief moment :uhhhfacepalm:, not bad for my first session I guess.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« on: September 03, 2012, 12:34:34 am »
120902 Boing Vert Phs 6 W1 D4 (Saturday afternoon outdoor)

Went back to the park where I started Boin Vert, back in Phs 2, I was jumping and reaching the roof of the park.  I go back to this same spot to jump.  Wife and baby sit on bench on the site watching his me jump...

Nearly all the jump have no improvement compare to phs 2, I just does not feel explosive/reactive...
not sure if it is because there are lot of people in the park or whatever reason...
All the fingerprint from phs 2 is still there on the roof side, and I am not jumping any higher.
Until the last rep of the last set; Finally my finger print reached over previous one by barely 1cm....

I am expecting to gain 2 inch from boing but, by the way it look, it will take me some effort just to get use to Boing transformation and get back to my Previous Max Height.  the anticipated 2 inch might come or might not...

So, with 1 final week left on Boing.... I might just alter the program adding Squat and Deadlift.
Low carb diet will continue with mc donald salad for lunch everyday (with 0 fat source...)

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« on: August 30, 2012, 04:28:26 am »
120828 Upper body Circuit training
Did not go too fast on this today... less sweat.. and probably not effective for fat lost...

120828 Boing Vert Phs 6 W1 D2
Out of the 5 set of 5 approch jump training.
I am able to tip the cable tray at least 1 time in each set.  Only 1 out of the 25 jump is as high as last training (at 123")


120829 Boing Vert Phs 6 W1 D3 (Wednesday afternoon outdoor)
Suppose to Jump 4 day a week, but because Thursday PM and Friday AM&PM is busy, I am not able to train for for those period of time.  I end up jumping at lunch today.  It is only 14 hours after the last training.

Sunny at 32.5C degree, my jump performance decreased, out of the 25 jump, none of the jump is as high as my max reach (thumb arc jamming the rim).  Max height came from a 3 step jump today, all those extra run up distance and steps seems to be useless at this moment...

P.S. Since yesterday, some clear yellow liquid is dripping from my nose, the liquid is thin like blood, I thought my nose is bleeding when it first happened.  This had happen in the morning after breakfast, during training at night, and again during training at lunch today.  A little research on line said it might be nasal infection from the previous cold i caught, or it may be brain fluid from a crack in the skull if I got some previous head impact  (which I never had).  
Visited doctor and I am given some antibiotic...


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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« on: August 27, 2012, 10:29:23 pm »
120827 Boing Vert Phs 6 W1 D1
Consult the Taiwan trainer who lost 10% BF in 4 month, and trying to eat light with low carb diet starting today.
I eat Subway salad instead of subway sandwich for lunch, breakfast is still congee favored oat meal.

Today Boing training is all about Approach jump, the instruction is to measure your each jump and once your jump start to decrease by 10%, stop and move to next exercise.

5 set of 5 jump.... I completed it.  I am trying to reach the electrical junction box all the time as seen in the pic.
On a good jump, i can touch the middle of the box, on a very good jump, i can reach to top of the box...

On the 2nd last rep of the last set... I felt very good reaching the top of the box...
My trainer partner did not see it and ask me to show him again.  I tell him, this last attempt of the day, I will try to reach the cable tray with the letter "E" (which is a inch or 2 above the box).  My partner said, forget it, reach the top of the box and prove it to me instead... flapping ur hand in the air under the cable tray wont do no good.

I insist to reach for the "E"....  and BANG I touched it, my tip of the finger ran over the side of the tray!

I am shocked, and so is my partner...

(I wrap up today's training with some single leg horizontal jump.)


Oh my way home, I updated my FB status:
I had long forgotten the feeling of joy from nailing an new PR in training...But today.. I did it!
The feeling is from within... There was no smile, is quite emotional... is hard to describe.  All i know is, i have to call my wife right away.  (and I am starving from lo carb diet)




The next morning, I went down with measuring tap and trying to confirm my PR with numbers.
Disappointed,  The bottom of cable tray is measured 122" (which mean i reached about around 123").  Measure my reach again and confirmed the 89".    So that mean, my vertical is only 34" still?  WTF
I mean the rim I practice jump with at lunch is 120" (measured) and I can get 4" over it, meaning my offical max height reach should be 124".

How come the 123" reach 34" felt like a new PR ?  my training partner who is there with me through out all the measurement (outdoor/indoor)  are shocked.... but numbers does not lie...


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To Raptor:
The rim is about 1 inch lower 10' where my back face the photo, It was located in my old home and I was hoping I can dunk with a small ball with that rim.

To Vag:
The 2 post u quoted had no contradiction,  I mean what I says from my heart.  Appreciating advice and just hoping to minimize those non serious joking making fun of me post.  I do not mean to offend any one. Honestly.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« on: August 27, 2012, 12:55:15 am »
Scooby, why are you falling into the same trap again? The absolute best thing the trainer could tell you is what everyone here has already been telling you, and what you repeatedly acknowledge you should already be doing!!!

Flying in 4 is a scam, for your own sake don't even think about wasting your time on it:

http://www.verticaljumping.com/flying_in_four.html

To be completely honest, I think you should take the pressure off yourself in regards to dunking by November. It sounds like you're still 5-6'' off if you're only getting 1 inch above a "slightly higher" rim. Go back to basics for a bit: squat heavy, strengthen the other major muscle groups, 1-2x jumps practice a week, and maybe some sprints, plyos and low-level volume of "shock" plyos like depth jumps (15-30 x2 sessions a week is too many IMO) on another day. Then when you've got your strength up in squat, deadlift, whatever, you can move into more explosive stuff and practice max effort jumps/dunks with smaller ball more.

Just my 2 cents, feel free to ignore it, but realise that most people are calling you out lately because they don't want to see a fellow vert athlete wasting their time and not achieving goals.

120824 Last day of Phs 5 in Boin Depth jump non stop
Depth jump on high box and low box without improvement.  On this very last day on Phs 5 and the very last set, I suddenly got up higher... This really piss me off, I found out if Jump off the box with arm pulling back earlier, so that my arm is all the way back after drop and ground contact, i can get consistently at higher height.  

I am limiting my ground contact time during this whole phase... but my MAX HEIGHT jump is still found from a Long ground contact, deep depth jump....  all this box jump did help my reactive power, but I still seems to jump the highest with  a heavy landing.  (this really pisses me off, wtf man)

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Thanks acole14 for still visiting and supporting, The taiwan dunker is more or less like the trainer here.  He focus on using diet to get himself to 10% body fat and dunked.  I am trying to get a much cleaner diet now,  he send me a few sample diet plan as well as his own diet plan which i will attempt to adjust in similar direction.  

Basically, he suggested to in carb only in the morning, lunch and dinner will be lot of protein and vagge with lot of mix nut snack (6 meal a day).   So I will try to change my Subway lunch to a subway salad and cut down on my Chinese rice intake.

As for planning after finishing boin in 2 weeks time.  I am going back to squat as well as 40 min cardio 3-4 time a week for the sake of fat burn.  As he suggested.  M W F Lift heavy, T R S 40 min cardio.

During Lifting day, I will for sure squat my ass off, and hopefully i can do squat jump as well.  

I really appreciated you and especially guys like lancests & raptor (which had been around since TVS and TV) for visiting and giving me advices.  It might not like i am taking advice at times, but believe me, I am not a moron...I might be stubborn at times... but I always have open mind about listening/learning  (which might be a reason why I am Boinging now)


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120825 Jump test, fail to slam child size ball
12 hours after I finished Phs5, I head to the court where I started jumping 6 yrs ago to test my vert.. (I only have time to come here on Sat morning... so...anyway..) I am hoping to slam a child size ball... but I just couldn't jump high with ball in hand...   2 steps jump is much higher then before, running approach jump is still more or less the same as 2 step jump.  Stand still counter movement jump had not improve much.

I felt different then Pre Boing... that is all I could say for now... may be the last phs of boing will make me adjust to the current, different me.

A photo of my jump attempt without ball:


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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« on: August 24, 2012, 05:10:06 am »

Just one of the several fundamental errors with Scooby's training right now.  :uhhhfacepalm:

Just trying to cut down the fat and adding reactive strength this very moment.

2 more weeks to get Boing over with and I should be back with Weight on my back.

On the other hand, Some body got me a copy of FLYINGin4weeks training program.  I found out many of the exercise is similar to BoingVert.  Exercise like Fire Hydrate, Plank and various stretching exercise...

I should be back in doing Heavy squat, deadlift & jump squat very very soon.

Mean while, I hooked up with a 4 yrs successful vert trainer from Taiwan, andykyo32 on youtube ... i hope can get some feed back from him also.


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