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Quote from: bball2020 on March 10, 2011, 08:42:31 pm

Not trying to start a pro squat only freaking CoolCol J thread, but for the average "white boy" developing a big time squat can be essential to developing some serious ups, not to mention it really is the most trainable essential part of Vertical jumps.

CCJ's argument was: just improve squat (and eventually jump)

^^ That's why his argument sucks.. He literally was telling people to just focus on squatting for months at a time without putting in considerable jump-work and obviously no reactive work.. His formula was "just squat and jump". That's why his argument is stupid.

I've said many times lately on this forum, I believe all of us should be shooting for 3-3.5xBW half squat goals, so i'm all for building an enormous squat.. but i'm also for staying very fit, eating right, not "dirty bulking" (gaining unnecessary weight), incorporating reactive work ("plyo"), strengthening the calfs directly, and getting in a good amount of max effort jumping.. so unlike CCJ, I cover more bases.. his argument leads people to get out of shape & gain excess weight which increases injury risk.

peace & ya add Nightfly to that list for sure.

Yes but you can probably only improve so much without weight gain/muscle gain, so neurally. Then you kind of need to gain weight in the right places to get your squat up and to improve on your ratio. It would be great if you were able to squat more and more without muscle gain, but that's pretty much impossible.

It's interesting, but I haven't jumped in about 2 months and I go in the park and I jump very high off one leg, just with strength training. Sure, I have been doing some depth jumps lately but no one-leg jumping in months. However, that movement pattern is ingrained since years ago.

Quote from: LBSS on March 14, 2011, 04:45:00 pm

Quote from: vag on March 14, 2011, 04:42:35 pm

Agreed , runups/FA/bounce look terrible.
Pasting what i said to raptor:

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LOL, way to copy/paste from your pics and vids thread in response to Raptor's identical comment. 

 

Of course, it's important what he says to me. And helps towards a bigger post count, which as we know it, is very important.

Is this free training still going on??

Yes, but you're the exception to this. You need to pay big time to compensate for the free advice offered for so much time. Sorry, it was just a random thing that happened to you.

I can definitely understand doing wide grip because it's more comfortable, but I DON'T understand doing it because of a non-injury-related flexibility issue.

It's usually when you're an ass.

Does the manufacturer of the protein powder really matter?

That sounds good. I mean, it looks like you have a LOT of room to grow in the reactive department.

Yeah from what I've seen of you, you're so "bad" at compressing into the ground and releasing energy, almost everything you put out is voluntary power.

If you could work on that you'd jump a lot higher. I really believe in what I'm saying here.