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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: April 11, 2019, 07:35:24 pm »
Not sure if I've asked this before but is this the Melbourne comp or a local one?

Nah you haven't, Melb. I literally might have peaked a week ago. Now i can barely squat my warmups or dunk. Lol.

Cool. We should catch up while you're here. Even just for a coffee.

Nah man have confidence. I saw your latest IG post. Shot is looking good. You'll be fine.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: April 11, 2019, 12:52:52 am »
Not sure if I've asked this before but is this the Melbourne comp or a local one?

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: April 11, 2019, 12:51:47 am »
This is a thing. Throwing an oop is a skill .. ive had one PG i met for the first time who nailed it and it was refreshing. They make it seem so effortless in the NBA, makes me wonder what normal players are missing about throwing them.

I was asking them for one off the backboard with me trailing the fast break as I thought that would be easier. Nope. No can do. It does make you appreciate the guys who throw them though.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: April 11, 2019, 12:49:09 am »
Game post-
This game sucked. New team and new comp. The opposition didn't know how to play. As in seriously didn't know how to play. The refs went easy on them and they traveled a lot, heaps of double dribbles, lots and lots of threes from god know where. It was 45-3 after the first half and we ended up winning 71-8.

wtf? that's awful. LMFAO.

i'd call travel on them every single time. learn to play the game. if someone cant dribble, pass. they could have gone naismith old peach crate style and just passed non-stop without dribbling. lol.

Man they called some but there were so many steps, carries, etc. I felt bad because they were just terrible. You couldn’t even call it a real game. Was like playing a bunch of 4 year olds.

Side note- I never realised how much of an art form alley oop passing is. I almost think you need to be either- highly skilled or a dunker to know or appreciate where to pass it. Last night they threw me about 8 alleys and all were either about 6ft off the ground or bullets that no one had a chance at catching. Even in the other team I play with who are more skilled have no concept of how or where to pass them.

back when i hooped, i threw tons of alleys and i never got anywhere close to dunking back then. so just decent passer i imagine. also tho, i threw alleys to people i've played with before. doubt i threw an alley oop to someone i never played with.. so having that experience playing with someone probably helps.

I used to in high school. We would all throw them but the general idea is basic. Put the ball near the rim at a medium pace. It’s not that difficult.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: April 10, 2019, 07:55:50 pm »
Game post-
This game sucked. New team and new comp. The opposition didn't know how to play. As in seriously didn't know how to play. The refs went easy on them and they traveled a lot, heaps of double dribbles, lots and lots of threes from god know where. It was 45-3 after the first half and we ended up winning 71-8. They were good about it and were all smiles but man it was a shocker. Gave me no idea how good our team is considering we could all score at will with no pressure whatsoever. The first 30 points we scored were all steals/rebounds into fast breaks. The other downside was one of our guys jacked up about 15 3's. He hit 5 but that wasn't the point. It was a bit of an insight into what kind of player he is.

On a slightly more positive but still mildly depressing note I had an in game dunk with about 20s left in the game. I say mildly depressing as the I had a fast break to myself and all the pressure of making it. Got up ok on tired legs, couldn't palm the ball as it was a bit slippery so got over the top of it ok and it bobbled around then finally went in. So technically its a dunk but not happy with it. I'm sure I'll get more opportunity at this level so need to get some practice during the week.

Side note- I never realised how much of an art form alley oop passing is. I almost think you need to be either- highly skilled or a dunker to know or appreciate where to pass it. Last night they threw me about 8 alleys and all were either about 6ft off the ground or bullets that no one had a chance at catching. Even in the other team I play with who are more skilled have no concept of how or where to pass them.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: April 09, 2019, 10:08:16 pm »
09/04/19

Reverse Deadmill Sprints-
100s, 80s, 60s, 40s, 20s

Heel down step up- 7" box- sets of 15
20, 40, 50, 60, 70

Bottom 1/4 squat bounces- 55
Sissy Squats to 8" box- 10

SL Calf Raise- 3 x 10 @20
Tibialis Raise- 3 x 10

Calf and Couch stretches.

10/04/19

Light sled warm up x 150m

Chins- bw x 8, +10 x 3, +20 x 1, +30 x 1  :personal-record:- don't think I've ever done this much before.

Ring Dips- bw x 7, 5, 3
Ring Rows- bw x 10, 9, 6
Floor single leg compression- 3 x 10/side with 3s hold

Seated Ext Rotation- 5kg x 10, 7.5kg x 6, 6
Zottman DB Curl- 5kgs x 10, 7.5s x 7, 5

Done. Great session. Especially considering my chins and dips numbers. Have gone up without training them much. Love that.

Stretching and ball to come later.

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Basketball / Re: NBA 2018 - 2019 Season
« on: April 07, 2019, 11:46:23 pm »
this is hilarious.

paul pierce got himself in some shit. lmfao.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvN8C0-Os9Q" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvN8C0-Os9Q</a>

I love this. And then how he refuses to concede even a little ground. I was reading some Instagram comments last night. Fucking hilarious.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: April 07, 2019, 08:48:59 pm »
Met up with the new mid week ball team yesterday. Have never met these guys before so was a little hesitant. Not going to be a great team but we'll be pretty good. All similar age to me (few years younger) and all with decent skills. We will also be playing a lower grade so these games will be a good opportunity to practice stuff to use with my Sunday team which is more competitive. Threw down a few dunks yesterday as well. They were surprisingly impressed with my baby dunks haha. One of the guys snuck a video and posted it to his IG story. I still look so slow driving but that's good feedback. I did one dunk though without palming the ball which was cool and that's my new focus to get that down pat so I don't have to worry about it mid game if I get on a fast break. It's the number one thing that has stopped me from dunking in games in the past.

hah nice. where's the ig clip? :ibjumping:

I just sent it to you in DMs. Don't know how to save a video from there.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: April 07, 2019, 07:49:59 pm »
Met up with the new mid week ball team yesterday. Have never met these guys before so was a little hesitant. Not going to be a great team but we'll be pretty good. All similar age to me (few years younger) and all with decent skills. We will also be playing a lower grade so these games will be a good opportunity to practice stuff to use with my Sunday team which is more competitive. Threw down a few dunks yesterday as well. They were surprisingly impressed with my baby dunks haha. One of the guys snuck a video and posted it to his IG story. I still look so slow driving but that's good feedback. I did one dunk though without palming the ball which was cool and that's my new focus to get that down pat so I don't have to worry about it mid game if I get on a fast break. It's the number one thing that has stopped me from dunking in games in the past.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: April 07, 2019, 07:45:30 pm »
I think this warrants a seperate post but  :personal-record: :personal-record: :personal-record: :personal-record:

i got my first proper in game dunk in a half court set off a post up against 2 defenders. OMG!!!!!

quick background, we played 1.5hrs full court scrimmage, 5v5. That was shithouse. Then after that i got pulled into a 4v4 half court game. Big guy playing man defense on me, i asked him his height and weight (a bit premediatory? lol) and he said 6'4", he didnt get to reply the weight but he must be 100kg, solid build. I post him up and he moves me out of the key with ease. Like c'mon, im a 170kg squatter and this guy is just brushing me aside like yesterdays news. It kinda kills my buzz cause i was thinking i wanna get a dunk.

So anyway about 30 mins in and ive got a few blocks on him, i feel he's softened up. i get a postup on the right block. I give him a left shoulder fake, he bites! i spin, power dribble and go up. He's recovered and trying to block me and meanwhile a smaller defender has come into the middle and put his hand up, but im already commited to the dunk. Bang. i come down, everyone is like wtf! i dunked on two guys off a post up.

I wish i had it on video. im just the kind of nerd who would tape a fucking pickup game on the off chance i get a dunk. but nah, im not even that lame. doesnt matter, i still know it was legit. Now im regretting it, would be cool to get my first proper postup dunk on video. Ah well.

oh and i had a fast break dunk on the full court scrimmage but i rimmed it out. i didnt grip the ball. it was old and no grip but still i should aleast try. hit the rim so hard ive got a purple bruise on my figer. go figure. if i ever go for a fast break dunk again im gonna make sure ive got it palmed otherwise it's going to be a miss.

:ibjumping:

sick man. congrats! :highfive:

that's probably going to happen more frequently now, i mean it's obvious from the recent IG clips that you could be bam'n it on people in games.

x2. This is awesome news.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: April 04, 2019, 06:35:37 pm »
03/04/19

2.5 mins backwards deadmill

Stretch RDL-
bar x 15, 60 x 15, 90 x 14, 110 x 4 +6 with straps- grip absolutely blew up on the 90 set
Floor L-sit leg raises
9 each side x 4

Sissy squats-
10 reps to 16" box

Chins ecc- 28s, 30s,
Ring dip ecc- 23s, 23s

Calf Stretches- 90s each side x 3

04/04/19

Deadmill sprints-
15s x 5
Split squats- oly shoes- no elevation- 5 reps per side
bw x 5, +10 x 5, +30 x 5, +45 x 5, +45 x 5

QL extension-
15kg x 7, 7 each side

Jumps-
LR plant x 15 reps
Jumps were done off 1 step approach. Form was decent and got ok with height with a max of 27-28". Not bad considering I never jump with this plant.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Party's Over!
« on: April 04, 2019, 06:27:49 pm »
6 years ago on this day I was working in a meat factory for $20.50 an hour starting at 4am. Every day I would wake up early, get to work and watch the clock and calculate the money in my head. 90 minutes prior to close I'd hose down and clean all the machines, and come home soaking wet smelling like meat. At the time I felt very resentful because I had gone to uni for 4 years, which cost me 40k. Yet here I was underutilised, working in a low paying job, with most of my colleagues barely able to speak English. These days I have a much better job and earn double the amount, but I still feel miserable. 6 years ago if I was in my current position I would feel happy. However, now I still feel underutilised...



Mate depression sucks. Remember to reach out here if you need to vent or talk to anyone.

Also from this point of view, be it from a distance, you've undergone a pretty remarkable shift in your life from back then to now. You should be proud of the changes you've made and what lies in front of you.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: New year new me
« on: April 04, 2019, 06:25:25 pm »
Mon/Tues 12.5hr night shifts.

Yesterday slept 3 hours in the day then ran 5km 28mins easy recovery run as my body hurt after the 11 miles.

Lifted after went pretty well dips (40kg x 7)/weight chins (a good 20kg x 6) and some bb stuff - face pulls/flys/curls/tris

Today tried to squat did 90kg x 5 and my si joint said no, my hips were tight af and all of my muscles just felt off. I'm getting really tired of this crap. I sacrifice my evening to train to come home miserable and in pain.

I'm gonna make one more push to sort this focusing on loosening my hip flexor, strengthening my deep abdominal muscle control and making my glutes alive. If this keeps happening I'm probably just going to call it a day with squats. 

BLEH

Mate sucks to hear about your hip flexors. Not sure if this helps but I've repeatedly torn my right hip flexor over the last 10+ years and what's helping me is strengthening them with l-sit type work and doing heaps of split squats with full ROM which stretches and strengthens them at the same time. That and a shit ton of stretching which is actually only 4 stretches (calf, couch, pigeon, pancake) but just done for time. Don't give up on squats cause your hips can be fixed.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: April 02, 2019, 12:09:31 am »
Yea if there is a big lumbering there and i have some decent momentum on me, i'll go up anyway (think pop's "be brave, be aggressive").  I find it easier mentally, to deal with dunking on a big than a small guy. With a small guy my natural instinct to protect my body takes over because you dont want to miss a dunk and go over the top of someone. Especially when they vanish from field of vision once you're in the air and that's scary! With a big they remain in your field of peripheral vision so you can figure out if and how you need to bail last second, if that makes sense. Yes i understand im talking about something ive never actually done lol but ive experienced these feelings when aborting dunks in traffic during games.

One hand finish is probably going to my goto. Only problem is grip. Some days my grip is so good i can bounce and catch the dribble easy and other times the ball just seems bigger. I know this is a CNS thing, days of weak grip and fatigued CNS go together. Wish i could have a grip surplus so i could even grip the ball on bad days. A guy at the courts last week suggested gripping med balls to work on grip.

I'm starting to think of this like the 4 minute mile. Seems like such an impossible task but I bet once you get your first one there will be plenty to follow.

Yeah working grip is a great idea. I'm also working on dunking without palming. Palming is the reason I've missed so many in game attempts and getting the hand more over the ball and actually dunking instead of placing it in the rim I think is a huge key to more success.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: April 01, 2019, 10:42:48 pm »
Go the post move and go hard. If the refs are half decent they won't call an offensive foul. I used to get called for a few but only on drives and in leagues where they have no semi circle rule which completely sucks. I just walked through (no ball and in my office) the L block spin to the baseline move. Seems like it could work in a game. I would lean towards a one handed finish to give you some extra height and an arm to fend off any potential defensive help.

I've started drilling a spin dunk off the block. I need to keep the defender honest and have him in two minds that i could go towards the baseline, so ive got that counter as well. I figure i'll give him a couple of jumpers off hte glass there and then i'll spin on him. Or another way i could set it up is make it seem im going baseline (faced up before initiating the dribble) then take him baseline before spinning on him. THe benefit of this is it gives you ab it more extra momentum/speed going into the dunk. Basically what wade does below:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLJTwaOZ7Gs" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLJTwaOZ7Gs</a>

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Also, don't write off the put back. I've been in a position more times than I care to remember to put back missed layups and shots. My only in game dunk is a put back too. Most guys forget to box out too so it leaves you with more opportunity.
ok i may try to drill it. will get someone to put up some shots and try put them back. ive never done one before, i usually dont have that much height when i get apuback so i end up finishing with a jump hook (in the air)

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In regards to Todddays full court dunk suggestion I think that's a killer and would be great. It's the one thing that when you get an open court in a game it's all on you so if you are confident you'll definitely have a higher chance of dunking.

im on it. will do it today!

Nice. That spin move may actually work well against zone d and could give you the option of posterising someone if yet get enough momentum.

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