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Introduce Yourself / Re: Norwegian Girl
« on: February 26, 2011, 03:26:42 pm »
Cool thread I'd never noticed this before. I might consider incorporating a few weeks of progressive calf raises and some direct hip hyperextension work (isolated glute work) in the form of partner assisted or manual reverse hyperextensions, barbell hip thrusts, or sled marches.  You will notice a near immediate difference in the extension on your sprints with that.

Re: the calf work, have you ever had shin splints? Occassionally on some of your jumps your feet look to be under some stress.  The calf work would probably help you stay smoother absorbing force (see some of Steffan Holms videos and notice how quiet he is when landing on all his drills).  You definitely have the structure there to work with and a good nervous system.

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Squat vs Deadlift.
« on: February 26, 2011, 02:49:49 pm »
Regardless of whether you're doing half or full squats, at least people are actually realizing the importance of getting the lifts up.  Squat, half squat, split squat...Anything is better than nothing.

Six years ago this debate would have been about whether strength training was even effective. Ask Raptor and dudes like him that were around on those boards way back when arguing about whether to do air alert or squats.

When I was in high school there were still quite a bit of belief that weights did nothing but make you slow - I was one of them. As a Jr. (1990) I went to a T&F presentation at Texas A&M, a pretty good program, and all they talked about was box jumps&  plyos.  So I thought I would do box jumps and plyos but I would make them even better.  If box jumps and plyos were good, then box jumps and plyos done with strength shoes AND ankle weights would work even better. :) Not! Fortunately, I finally decided I didn't give a shit if weights made me slow or not and started lifting. 


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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: High cut calves
« on: February 26, 2011, 02:32:13 pm »
High calves are gonna help with top speed and endurance running moreso than they will vert and early acceleration IMO. The tendons help save energy and spare muscular effort at a given work rate moreso than they contribute to positive concentric force. A good example of this is the difference between Kenyan runners and everyone else. They don't go faster, they just go forever without trying.

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: High cut calves
« on: February 25, 2011, 05:24:13 pm »
Perhaps only because people with narrow hips aren't always very strong and having wide hips isn't nearly as detrimental for SVJ as it is for speed.  I'm just speaking generally - narrower relative hip structure is a good trait for athleticism. I think for strictly vert purposes (bilateral or unilateral), relative femur length trumps most other stuff wrt to structure.

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: High cut calves
« on: February 25, 2011, 02:20:00 pm »
From strictly a structural perspective there is no advantage to having high cut calves. In fact I could make a pretty strong argument (and an observable one) that low cut calves give an advantage during initial acceleration and certain types of jumps if other key ingredients are in place...more potential force and force absorption. ** However, it's not all about that one body-part. Pay attention and observe people - high cut calves correlate with other positive athletic qualities such as narrow hips, longer legs, better nervous system, more fast twitch muscle, broaders shoudlers and lower body-fat...typical pit bull build. Those things all combine to make better athletes.

Plus it's an innate west african characteristic and for that reason alone will tend to correlate with athletic success.  

Low cut calves correlate with whiteness.  wider hips, shorter legs, bottom heavy lower body (quad vs glute dominance), slower nervous system,  heavy build, etc.

So it's all the other things accompanying low cut calves that make them disadvantageous IMO. Doesn't mean you can't become an explosive athlete because of that one quality.

Take a look at samoans for example - a group that usually combines naturally low cut calves with other postivie physiological athletic qualities...you're not gonna have a difficult time finding explosively athletic samoans.

**One of the things I've observed is noticeable in that clip of Holme above - the landing is extremely smooth and quiet like a feather hitting a pillow. The foot deforms a bit more than a typical "high cut" calf person, but you can see more initial acceleration off of footstrike.  Holm also has extremely long femurs and very narrow hips which you won't often find on someone with that type of lower leg build.

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Hip flexors
« on: February 24, 2011, 12:38:33 pm »
RE: Hip flexors

Go back to the things I said earlier this thread about femoral control.

We know that what happens to the legs during the recovery phase (once the foot comes off the ground) plays no direct role in sprinting (see the infamous Weyand study)

The harder you push against the ground, the faster you go.

BUT....

Having an optimal posture (repositioning your legs correctly) allows you to set up in a way that allows you to more efficiently exert more force when your foot does hit the ground....you get a better wind-up, better leverage, and a greater pre-stretch from the contributing musculature (the muscles that contribute when your foot makes ground contact)

If the hip flexors are weak it's very difficult to get to that posture and people will either shorten their strides up or flail their feet sideways, as the TFL and rectus femoris try to do what the psoas can't. It's easy to see from the back. 
Look at who has naturally strong hip flexor and great femoral control and who doesn't. Femoral control = the muscles in control of the femur from the hip (the hip flexors and glutes) are fully in control of the femur from both sides.

Best strengtheners: Look at the sprinters posture than try to duplicate.  The hip flexors are one of the few muscles that tend to be weak in the shortened range (the very top of a full knee or leg raise) rather than the stretch range.  Here is an exercise to test.  Keep the natural arch and don't lean back.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxkbqUa28BY

 
 A lot of people won't be able to lift their knee an inch without squirming around all over the place. You should be able to come up several inches.

I recommend doing sets of 8-10 with a 2-3 second hold at top on that exercise. The more you lean forward the harder the exerise is. Use bands for extra resistance. 

Another good exercise is doing the same thing standing up, which also happens to hit the glute.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAUwgrazCg4  (keep the plant leg straight and don't let the knee bend).

Then maybe look into pike variations:

http://gymnasticbodies.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=10:developing-the-hanging-leg-lift&catid=2:articles&Itemid=3


Raptor, regarding your knee collapse, that's actually more of a combined eccentric and isometric contraction. I wouldn't get caught up in doing isos just get your quads stronger overall in things you know how to do.  You can't affect one type of strength without affecting them all.

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Buttocks
« on: February 21, 2011, 05:08:28 pm »

  One of the most effective techniques I have used to attain a more glute driven squat is to start with a progression:

1.)Just the bar, iso hold in the bottom position of the squat,15-30 seconds, focus on activating the glutes by sitting back into the hips, "pulling" down with the hip flexors, pushing out to the sides of the shoes, tightening the core, "pulling" with the feet, etc.  You can mess around with many of these techniques until you feel the glutes turn on and take the brunt of the load. 

Isometric squats.

Effects of isometric squat training on the tendon stiffness and jump performance.


Original Link: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16328192

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Conclusion. These results suggest that isometric squat training changes the stiffness of human tendon-aponeurosis complex in knee extensors to act negatively on the effects of pre-stretch during stretch-shortening cycle exercises.


Would you still do them?.

I think you misinterpreted that study. Look at the entire thing:


Effects of isometric squat training on the tendon stiffness and jump performance.
Kubo K, Yata H, Kanehisa H, Fukunaga T.

Department of Life Science (Sports Sciences), University of Tokyo, Meguro-ku, Japan. kubo@idaten.c.u-tokyo.ac.jp

Abstract
The present study aimed to investigate the effect of isometric squat training on human tendon stiffness and jump performances. Eight subjects completed 12 weeks (4 days/week) of isometric squat training, which consisted of bilateral leg extension at 70% of maximum voluntary contraction (MVC) for 15 s per set (10 sets/day). Before and after training, the elongations of the tendon-aponeurosis complex in the vastus lateralis muscle and patella tendon were directly measured using ultrasonography while the subjects performed ramp isometric knee extension up to MVC. The relationship between the estimated muscle force and tendon elongation was fitted to a linear regression, the slope of which was defined as stiffness. In addition, performances in two kinds of maximal vertical jumps, i.e. squatting (SJ) and counter-movement jumps (CMJ), were measured. The training significantly increased the volume (P < 0.01) and MVC torque (P < 0.01) of the quadriceps femoris muscle. The stiffness of the tendon-aponeurosis complex increased significantly from 51 +/- 22 (mean +/- SD) to 59 +/- 24 N/mm (P = 0.04), although that of the patella tendon did not change (P = 0.48).[ The SJ height increased significantly after training (P = 0.03), although the CMJ height did not (P = 0.45). In addition, the relative difference in jump height between SJ and CMJ decreased significantly after training (P = 0.02). These results suggest that isometric squat training changes the stiffness of human tendon-aponeurosis complex in knee extensors to act negatively on the effects of pre-stretch during stretch-shortening cycle exercises.

Structurally the muscle and tendon both improved, but only the SJ was positively affected on a performance basis. You see the same thing with EMS or anything else that strengthens muscles without movement.  Movements involving reflexive action don't improve unless they're done in conjunction with that type of training. It's not anything inherently wrong with the ISos but they have to be done in conjunction with dynamic movements.

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Squat vs Deadlift.
« on: February 20, 2011, 03:23:36 pm »

It's been done before. That's basically Barry Ross's program. A few plyos and deadlifts that's it. You can get results from it. Anything you do that causes your legs to work against progressive tension can illicit some gains.  Hell you can get results from doing a leg press or squatflex too if your training age and level of progression vs your untrained state are low enough.

But for my money a squat variant is a better bang for the buck for most as it's inherently less back and more legs.

Squat variant + jump squat/hang snatch + depth jump/calf raise + reverse hyper/hip thrust= Best IMO

But the more you try to make something perfect and 100% optimal that more you're apt to  screw yourself up more adding exercises and jacking with sets, reps, frequency etc. so a  lot of people would be better off doing something simple like you propose as it inherently eliminates a lot of things they'd screw up doing the "perfect" program....:)

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Squat vs Deadlift.
« on: February 20, 2011, 01:04:45 pm »
hahaha..I believe you I wasn't making those things up I posted I've actually heard those exact comments.  Another thing is most people will eventually experience back pain at one time or another and if they've ever done deadlifts in their life (no matter how long previous) they will then turn around and blame their pain on deadlifts, when in reality it's much more likely on account of their posture, excessive sitting in front of a computer, etc

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I followed one of your programs for explosiveness last summer and into last fall, and when i did squat and deadlifts at a very high frequency, i progressed much much faster on deadlifts. At that time you told me it had something to do with my build. I do have long legs (especially thighs bones) and it makes squat extremely hard to progress without having to lean forward too much. In comparison, with the deadlift, i'm easily able to hit the hamstrings hard and i never had problems of using back at all, even to this day, the deadlift still makes my posterior chain sore for days on.

Recently, i trained with a friend who has a different build and he had trouble not using his back to deadlift. It was an easy thing to acertain as he was not sore WHATSOEVER in his legs in the following days.

So would you think that some people, especially those with long thigh bones/torso, might progress MORE mainly from deadlift as their main exercise over squat? Especially unilateral jumpers? I feel like the deadlifting motion (Hip extension) closely mimicks the angle during a SLRVJ and for me personally, has led to good improvements in that particular jumping technique.

Extremely tall or long legged people will often have trouble with the squat and for them the deadlift can be a suitable replacement.  There are a lot of college basketball strength coaches that use deadlift variations in place of squats. Personally I'd rather use a bulgarian squat for these people but the dead can be a viable option, and, as you experienced, some people respond really well to it.  For people that aren't suited for it (typical short armed stocky guys) it tends to beat them up pretty good. 

   

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Squat vs Deadlift.
« on: February 20, 2011, 12:11:34 pm »
My doc said don't do deadlifts cuz my couzin blowed his back out doing them....now he's in a wheelchair.......he was taking cleatine too with deadlifts and the doc said his kidneys are almost blowed out too from it.....plus it made his temper really bad and he wanted to kick everybody's ass and creatin made him put some other guy in the hospital cuz he went off playin a pickup game..

now he has blowed out kidneys and blowed out back and he's only 16

dont' do deadlifts and cleatine braa11!!

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Squat vs Deadlift.
« on: February 19, 2011, 03:32:15 pm »
I get this question a lot  The deadlift can be a nice exercise but not everyone is suited for it.  The problem is the carryover is very technique dependent. It's possible to deadlift a lot of weight with nary any lower body involvement whatsoever. Hell I had a guy I used to train that could deadlift 500 at 160 and his legs were actually quite weak. The squat is more difficult to screw up.  Generally speaking the better the deadlifter the less lower body involvement, as good deadlifters are built in a way they barely have to bend their knees at all to reach the bar. Not to mention most people have less than optimal deadlift technique to begin with.  You can have less than optimal squat technique but you're still gonna get a pretty good lower body stimulus.

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Raptor you're doing about everything wrong you could do wrong.

Mistake #1: You already have symptoms of a lack of jumping efficiency and now you plan on doing 4 days per week squatting with no jumps?  That's a recipe for disaster.  

Mistake #2: Natural Ectomorph + high frequency squatting + fat loss = fail  

Strength gains are difficult under best case scenarios. Take someone who's naturally recovery challenged and put them on a recovery challenging frequency protocol and stress the system even more with intervals and caloric restriction and you're asking for trouble.

Mistake #3: Not tracking your diet

Exercise has a very minimal impact on body composition in the absence of caloric changes.  You can go out and do 30 minutes of intervals and burn 300 calories. Fuck, that's a couple of spoons of peanut butter.  Last year a study was done in Texas where they took a group of sedentary peopel and had them lift weight and do cardio 3-4 days per week. There was no dietary intervention whatsoever and after 6 weeks the average fat loss was like half a pound.  You might be able to get it done by changing the composition of your diet but the more attention you cgive it the better your results are going to be.  

In short, you can probably make some gains with your proposed schedule but it's not the best use of your time or the modalities it contains.  

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Lots more science here:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=%28%22fingers%22%5BMeSH%20Terms%5D%20OR%20%22fingers%22%5BAll%20Fields%5D%20OR%20%22finger%22%5BAll%20Fields%5D%29%20AND%20digit%5BAll%20Fields%5D%20AND%20ratio%5BAll%20Fields%5D%20AND%20%28%22testosterone%22%5BMeSH%20Terms%5D%20OR%20%22testosterone%22%5BAll%20Fields%5D%29&cmd=DetailsSearch

and here:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=2D%5BAll%20Fields%5D%20AND%20%284D%5BAll%20Fields%5D%20AND%20ratio%5BAll%20Fields%5D%20AND%20%28%22sports%22%5BMeSH%20Terms%5D%20OR%20%22sports%22%5BAll%20Fields%5D%29%29&cmd=DetailsSearch

It's not perfect but, like facial and jaw structure, are one of many indicators that can tell you things.

There are many other interesting anatomical and muscular correlators that one can observe in people.

For example, in women calf size tends to correlate negatively with breast size.

In men, higher calf insertion points correlate with more muscular, broader upper bodies and vice versa.

In men, knockneedness tends to correlate with a soft, feminine physique and bowleggedness tends to correlate with masculinity. 

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A better observation would be how the body-fat is stored. If you knew how to differentiate potential visceral adipose tissue from subcutaneous distribution you'd have a pretty decent barometer of athletic potential.  Performance in speed-strength activities correlates strongly with tesosterone level, which correlates with FT fiber expression and VAT storage.

An easier observation is just look at the hands and the 2D:4D ratio. A longer ring (the 4th) finger indicates greater testosterone exposure in the womb and likely greater testosterone expression in adulthood.  If your pointing finger is longer than ring finger you're likely not as testosterone dominant and vice versa. If the 4th finger on one hand is noticeably longer than the one on the other hand that indicates very good testosterone sensitivity. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digit_ratio

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Leonel,

Are you the same Leonel that used to post over on the DB forum?  If so did you finally get those knee issues cleared up? I remember you were seemingly dealing with that forever and IIRC you were finally diagnosed with plica syndrome is that right?

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