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Nutrition & Supplementation / Re: The Ketogenic Diet By Lyle McDonald?.
« on: March 31, 2011, 02:59:02 am »
Quote from: tychver on March 31, 2011, 02:56:37 am
Quote from: LBSS on March 31, 2011, 12:58:28 am
Quote from: JC on March 30, 2011, 08:58:18 pm
Quote from: Raptor on March 30, 2011, 05:57:56 pm
I ate chicken. Am I roided? Should I give up on sports?

I know, no and yes.

Chicken isn't made in laboratories

inb4 dem hormones in chicken

Posted Hickson's 800 lb DL video in Lyle's forum. He said this:

Quote from: Lyle McDonald
Whenever people ask me about steroids and GH in meat, I'm pointing to this kid: see, the stuff's helping.

Yeah. It's scary enough the Alberto Contador's excuse for clenbuterol was seriously fucking plausable.

This one is also pretty scary: Eat pork, test positive for nandrolone:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10861987

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Nutrition & Supplementation / Re: The Ketogenic Diet By Lyle McDonald?.
« on: March 31, 2011, 02:56:37 am »
Quote from: LBSS on March 31, 2011, 12:58:28 am
Quote from: JC on March 30, 2011, 08:58:18 pm
Quote from: Raptor on March 30, 2011, 05:57:56 pm
I ate chicken. Am I roided? Should I give up on sports?

I know, no and yes.

Chicken isn't made in laboratories

inb4 dem hormones in chicken

Posted Hickson's 800 lb DL video in Lyle's forum. He said this:

Quote from: Lyle McDonald
Whenever people ask me about steroids and GH in meat, I'm pointing to this kid: see, the stuff's helping.

Yeah. It's scary enough the Alberto Contador's excuse for clenbuterol was seriously fucking plausable.

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Nutrition & Supplementation / Re: The Ketogenic Diet By Lyle McDonald?.
« on: March 30, 2011, 10:02:38 pm »
Quote from: $ick3nin.vend3tta on March 30, 2011, 07:50:24 pm
But the thing is, those guys don't even look like they lift. If they both walked down the street towards me I wouldn't associate them with lifting weights (even light weights).

Appearances mean very little.  Does anyone see a huge and jackt weightlifter when they look at Taner Sagir? He looks kinda stocky and not particularly lean and yet is an Olympic gold meallist in weightlifting.





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Nutrition & Supplementation / Re: The Ketogenic Diet By Lyle McDonald?.
« on: March 30, 2011, 09:52:06 pm »
Quote from: $ick3nin.vend3tta on March 30, 2011, 07:22:24 pm
What are the anabolic steroids, HGH, t3 and t4 improving in terms of sprint speed?. I associate those drugs with building muscle.  Combest & Lemaitre don't have big muscles. So, what are those drugs doing to aid the skinny guys?. How/what are they gaining from usage?.

Increased recovery
Increased growth of both muscles and tendons
Reduced body fat
Increased collagen synthesis for healthy joints
Increased strength
Increased injury resistance
Able to handle more volume in a training session
Improved ability to maintain pace

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Nutrition & Supplementation / Re: The Ketogenic Diet By Lyle McDonald?.
« on: March 30, 2011, 09:29:56 pm »
Quote from: JC on March 30, 2011, 05:24:59 pm
Quote from: Raptor on March 30, 2011, 04:54:07 pm
Remember Rashard Lewis?



DHEA. Not even a PED in real world sense of the word.

Rashard Lewis got popped for testosterone and the NBA PR machine convinced everyone it was just mistaken DHEA supplementation.

He didn't just test positive for DHEA. His test:epitest ratio, which is the first thing analyzed after an immuno-assay is run to detect various easier to pick up things, was over 6:1. WADA allows 4:1. You don't get an over 6:1 testosterone to epitestosterone ratio without taking exogenous testosterone. DHEA is a natural precursor to testosterone and when it elevates testosterone levels it does so without changing the T/E ratio.

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Nutrition & Supplementation / Re: The Ketogenic Diet By Lyle McDonald?.
« on: March 30, 2011, 04:10:19 pm »
Quote from: $ick3nin.vend3tta on March 30, 2011, 10:55:11 am
I find it interesting that nobody thinks Casey Combest was juiced?.

Would that observation/realisation be based more towards his body type (ectomorph) as opposed to a more endomorph/muscular body type?.

Appearance means nothing. Heaps of skinny looking soccer players have tested positive for various anabolic steroids.

Anabolic steroids other than testosterone are pretty easily detected now and athletes have shifted towards using a cocktail of testosterone, HGH, insulin and thyroid hormones which unfortunately are almost almost undetectable. HGH can so far only be detected in blood which is not tested outside of competition. Athletes can use HGH all off season without having to worry. Testosterone testing is based on a ratio of testosterone to epitestosterone. Take moderate doses and keep yourself under 4:1 and again, no worry with testing. Insulin cannot be tested for at all and testing for t3 and t4 is extremely rudimentary. Sprinters and other more general athletes are also using EPO to improve endurance and recovery.

WADA aren't even particularly coy about how easy it is to work around the testing:
http://articles.latimes.com/2007/dec/15/science/sci-baseball15

Dwain Chambers was taking HGH, testosterone, insulin and T3 while being tested multiple times over more than a year and none of it was detected. That's how useless the testing is.

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Nutrition & Supplementation / Re: The Ketogenic Diet By Lyle McDonald?.
« on: March 30, 2011, 05:17:53 am »
Quote from: $ick3nin.vend3tta on March 29, 2011, 10:31:58 pm
Do you have any links/sources which suggest of inaccuracies?.

Where are you pulling the %'s from?.

Can you not use Google?

Hit NUMBER ONE for "skinfold calipers inaccuracy low bodyfat"

Real world example of the standard Jackson & Pollock formula being calibrated for non-athletes causing an estimate of 3.7% for an athlete at approximately 10%:

http://www.sport-fitness-advisor.com/bodyfatcalipers.html

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Body fat calipers measure skinfolds to calculate how much subcutaneous fat (fat under the skin) a person has. The examiner then puts the numbers into an equation to predict body density and body fat percentage. The point to remember is... Body fat calipers do not measure your body fat percentage directly. The result? There is a great deal of room for errors to creep in.

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Nutrition & Supplementation / Re: The Ketogenic Diet By Lyle McDonald?.
« on: March 29, 2011, 10:03:18 pm »
Quote from: $ick3nin.vend3tta on March 29, 2011, 05:42:20 pm
Maintaining 5-8% BF all year round.

Quote from: $ick3nin.vend3tta on March 29, 2011, 08:00:29 pm
6' 0", around 160 lbs. I use body fat calipers to test.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL LOL!

Skinfold calipers and the formula used to estimate bodyfat percentage from the results are horrendously inaccurate below 10-12% as they only measure subcutaneous adipose tissue and can't measure either changes in visceral fat or take into account essential fat in the nervous system and other organs. For example Parillo sums all the skin fold measurements and then multiplies by one of several constants depending on the sites and gender that were determined as the best correlation between the total skinfold and the result of a DEXA scan of a bunch of test subjects. That's completely off the top of my head so don't take this as gospel, someone correct me if I'm wrong. That's not to say that you can't still track your own progress in raw skin fold measurements.

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Nutrition & Supplementation / Re: The Ketogenic Diet By Lyle McDonald?.
« on: March 28, 2011, 11:18:06 pm »
Quote from: LBSS on March 28, 2011, 11:15:19 pm
way i see it, there are three options here:

1. you've still never read anything lyle has written. pretty much no one on the internet is more of an "it depends" guy than lyle, except maybe alan aragon.
2. you're borderline MR and/or illiterate.
3. you're trolling.

Options? I'm going with all three.

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Nutrition & Supplementation / Re: The Ketogenic Diet By Lyle McDonald?.
« on: March 28, 2011, 11:11:20 pm »
Quote from: $ick3nin.vend3tta on March 28, 2011, 09:43:16 pm
Fail on both accounts.

He had no great prospects as a 100m runner/didn't possess the speed. His squat & bench aren't huge (speed isn't primarily made there). Drug use is speculatory at best & since he still hasn't failed a drugs test, the fact remains he's clean till proven guilty.

He was running mid-low 10s at 16. His coach steered him towards 200/400 because of his height and build. He then set the junior WR as a 200m sprinter and shifted into 100m as he got stronger and put on 18kg.

Quote from: $ick3nin.vend3tta on March 28, 2011, 09:43:16 pm
Yeah, If he followed the ketogenic diet that would put him in the 9.2's, right?.  

lol.


Ketogenic diets generally don't work very well for athletes with a high workload.

Quote from: $ick3nin.vend3tta on March 28, 2011, 09:43:16 pm
Can you imagine a whiteboy getting close to the record, what the reaction would be in the athletic community, if there are so many that believe Bolt is juiced to the gills. Jesus.

Past evidence of top sprinters suggest otherwise. Especially those who pack on large amounts of muscle and annihilate world records. Bolt is more likely to be doping than Christopher Lemaitre, but Lemaitre is probably not clean either.

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Nutrition & Supplementation / Re: The Ketogenic Diet By Lyle McDonald?.
« on: March 28, 2011, 09:17:58 pm »
Quote from: $ick3nin.vend3tta on March 28, 2011, 08:58:41 pm
Quote from: bball2020 on March 28, 2011, 08:05:37 pm
the more extreme you want your results to be (according to your body/genetics) the more the "keep it healthy and basic" does not get the job done..

Nonsense.

Go tell that to Bolt on his diet of chicken nuggets LMAO.

Bolt is quite possibly the biggest genetic freak of all time and almost certainly on a permanent diet of hugely effective and undetectable drugs. Nothing he does is relevant to a normal athlete.

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: My basketball conditioning sucks!
« on: March 28, 2011, 04:10:32 pm »
Suicides and interval sprinting. Fuck running and cycling for basketballc conditioning. When was the last time you ran a couple of miles at medium pace in basketball without a sharp change of pace or direction?

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Nutrition & Supplementation / Re: The Ketogenic Diet By Lyle McDonald?.
« on: March 28, 2011, 04:06:15 pm »
Quote from: $ick3nin.vend3tta on March 28, 2011, 10:46:50 am
Quote from: tychver on March 28, 2011, 05:33:51 am
x3 Lyle's a an asshole.

+4.


Quote from: tychver
his stuff on diet and nutrition is consistently better than anything else on the interwebs.

lol.

I didn't even write that lol.

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Nutrition & Supplementation / Re: The Ketogenic Diet By Lyle McDonald?.
« on: March 28, 2011, 05:33:51 am »
Quote from: DamienZ on March 28, 2011, 04:29:35 am
Quote from: LBSS on March 27, 2011, 10:59:10 pm
Quote from: $ick3nin.vend3tta on March 27, 2011, 10:54:00 pm
Has anyone tried this diet?. Or is it just a pile junk like the rest of his stuff?.


LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

x2

x3 Lyle's a an asshole. But he's an informed and competent asshole with a clear writing style.

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Calfs
« on: March 26, 2011, 09:16:41 pm »
Quote from: adarqui on March 26, 2011, 03:10:38 pm
carl lewis was on roids................ that was his "progressive resistance routine".. he's failed tests, coverups, people close to him made claims, etc.

:/

Carl Lewis never tested positive for steroids. Just stimulants. He probably was though. There's at least one instance of USADA covering up a positive test of an athlete who went on to medal in an olympics.

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Dr Exum, the former USOC
director for drug control from 1991 to 2000, released more than 30,000 pages of documents to Sports Illustrated. They confirm widespread suspicion of the USOC drug-testing system before it was moved to an independent body, the US Anti Doping Agency, after the Sydney Olympics.

The Herald reported last year that a US athlete tested positive to steroids in 1999 but was allowed to compete - and win an Olympic gold medal - in the 2000 Sydney Games. US officials still refuse to divulge the name of the athlete, or those of 13 other athletes who had failed drug tests around the same time, citing privacy laws.

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/04/17/1050172709693.html

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