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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: analyse my squat bar path
« on: September 13, 2013, 03:45:43 am »
Quote from: AlexV on September 12, 2013, 08:52:40 pm
I guess the most important question about this was why do you want to squat like that?

For strengthening legs. That's it. I want an exercise which best trains my legs. Currently my squatting form emphasises glutes and hamstrings more than quads. In the BS case, it also heavily tasks lower back which sucks because it can ruin a whole week's workout if my lower back is too torched to squat normally in the coming workouts. I don't mind having a strong posterior chain, it's awesome to have that too. Atm I can work on my PC just by squatting, no need to do anything else. Whereas i'd prefer the case where my squat was training mainly my legs. I can do assistance exercises for my posterior chain.

If my squat form was olympic like, I could train harder and make better progress growing my leg strength because lower back fatigue would not detract from my squat sessions. Right now my squat progress is a zizgag of doing a heavy enough goodmorning with my squat, accidentally strengthening my back enough (once recovery has occured lol) to progress my backsquat a bit longer before again hitting a wall due to lower back deficit. It's a nightmare.

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From your response it sounds like you want to be an olympic lifter.  That is one technique that you can use to be a better olympic lifter.  I have never seen anyone actually train their back squat n the positions shown in the picture (the vids showed theory but lacked in their technique when under a bar).  I am not saying they are wrong.  For Olympic lifting they may very well be correct.

Nope, basketball is my sport. Olympic lifters need strong legs. That's the purpose for which they use the squat as an assistance. They already work their posterior chain thru their main lifts as well as assistance pulling exercises. They achieve a good balance between leg strength and posterior strength. I am not an olympic lifter but I also need that same balance. No the LBBS will not give me balance. If my HBBS resembles the 2nd squat, then an intentional LBBS for me resembles a pure good morning - it's no longer a leg exercise it's a pure posterior chain one. This is another point i'd like to make, the LBBS isn't for everyone. For someone with my build it's exactly the wrong type of squat!

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SM2ZAQ_jFJs" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SM2ZAQ_jFJs</a>

These athletes are squatting with knee positions as illustrated (except for the big kid).

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IMO it borders on the point of diminishing returns for an athlete.  The further one goes down the rabbit hole of sport specific training for olympic lifting or powerlifting the further they stray from their goals as an athlete.

There is an argument to be made that the olympic squat is /the/ squat exercise for athletes and general strength.  I get that in some sense the LBBS is a jack-of-all-trades squats to some. Not very good at building leg strength but it's good for putting a lot of weight on the bar, for some, because it makes for a deadlift-like squat rather than a squat-like one. And since weight on the bar is very important to a lot of people, it's the natural choice. But weight on the bar is not everything, if the downside is we're turning the squat into an exercise which resembles the deadlift, then what exactly are we achieving if legs are no longer being strengthened like in the olympic squat? It's a trade off i'm not willing to entertain when strong legs are so important in sport, which is the main reason we are squatting in the first place! Guys are moving 400-500 in the LBBS and only front squatting 300! I can front squat 300 and my backsquat is around there too. What does it say about the leg training effect of the LBBS when these so-called strong squatters have such low front squats? It says their not training their legs very hard.

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: analyse my squat bar path
« on: September 12, 2013, 08:11:48 am »
Yup. Here is coach wu teaching his technique

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdFSzleg6vM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdFSzleg6vM</a>

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: analyse my squat bar path
« on: September 12, 2013, 07:16:03 am »
Quote from: Joe on September 12, 2013, 06:52:16 am
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQnFe6jP46M" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQnFe6jP46M</a>

Have you actually watched that guy squat? Looks nothing like that... So much hamstrings. The bottom position he actually takes is more like yours than the ideal one he describes.

Yes! I agree completely. I would like to ask him the same thing lol.

Could be one or more of the following :-

1. I know he got Romaleos recently (~0.75" heel)  when he used to wear old classic Dowins which had a 1.25" heel (that he may have modified by a cobbler to be even higher?) . A bigger heel allows you to get more knee forward. Try it by getting on your toes (emulating a big heel) and pushing your hips forward until they're directly above your ankles while sitting down into the first position in the poster. Some people will need a bigger heel than others to get to this position. He may need a bigger one to get into the ideal position than that provided by the Nikes.

2. He's not able to do the idea squat style with heavy weights, the vids of him show him doing a 2xbw squat for 5x5, he's not able to use the ideal form with his heaviest sets

3. He hasn't made the change yet from his old style, old habits are hard to break.

Would be interesting to see him show a video of a lifter he has coached into that technique using heavier weights.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: September 12, 2013, 04:13:36 am »
Speaking of, i've been meaning to an update of my cut. Honestly i haven't been doing it very well. I seem to be fine on training days because after lifting I don't get hungry. But on rest days i'll be really good and compliant til after dinner, hunger is slaying me lol. Hard to go from a bulk to a cut. So i'm taking it in stride, usually what happens is i'll get sick of myself and say ok lets do it right, and then i'll be super strict for months at a time.

Anyway here is where I am as of today


On track to break 190 by month end. Think i'm slowing adjusting to it though. Once I do, I expect I will be able to get into 180s by 1st october.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: September 12, 2013, 04:09:32 am »
Quote from: Raptor on September 11, 2013, 03:50:51 pm
Quote from: Joe on September 11, 2013, 02:16:37 pm
Quote from: Raptor on September 11, 2013, 01:55:20 pm
By the way - I agree with entropy about gaining weight to gain squat numbers. I mean... I'd get to a 100 kg bodyweight at 6'0 with a 180 kg squat... but what would that do on the actual field? Each and every jump would be such a shock and such a destroyer of joints at that point... I would jump a few times and then need to go home. And as I have terrible cardio ability, carrying that weight with me and trying to move it around would be TERRIBLE.

So... it doesn't make any sense (in my position) to get there.

As for squatting - looking at my recent squats that I've filmed... they look really good IMO even as low bar squats. Mutombo should go with low bar IMO.

You don't look very lean though. You could probably be the same weight as you are right now with a way bigger squat.

Totally agree. But I eat a lot of sugars because that's what I grew up liking (that's what my mom always bought as a "reward" etc). Plus I'm terrible at cardio so... no kcal burning either.

Do 3 weeks of RFL. It will be the best thing you do for yourself all year. Will teach you to retrain your eating habits to becoming cleaner, lose your dependency on sweets, drop 2-3kg or so of bodyfat. And show you what a difference losing bodyfat makes to athleticism, maybe you'll even keep up dieting for longer til you've reached your athletic bodyweight, albeit with a less severe diet. But to kickstart a drastic change in diet, RFL is a good way to go.

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: analyse my squat bar path
« on: September 12, 2013, 02:53:25 am »
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The first back squat image is almost impossible to attain UNLESS you are front squatting.  Of course the pic is a back squat and a drawing so the laws of physics don't apply (you could rest the bar on the neck).  This squatting style will build quads and some glutes (a traditional front squat will have quad and more glute plus be easier on the knees).  It will place more stress on the knees and requires a ton of ankle mobility.  Also be sure to drive the knees outward.  That will clear space in the hips AND the ankles.  Knees should travel WAY outside the foot.  If you wanna squat like this then goblet squat and front squat. 

There is a good reason for preferring our backsquat form to resemble FS as much as possible. The reason is that it's much easier to train the BS than the FS. Easier to do more volume. More reps, more sets. Easier to use more weight. This is because the FS depends on rack strength as much as it does leg strength and drive. If your build means you're leaning over, you need even more rack strength than leg strength. FS is not the solution.

Also knees out will force hips back and take you away from the olympic position. That's one reason why you don't want to do that in olympic squats.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V9MvP1nxOs" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V9MvP1nxOs</a>

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Getting into the position will be easier.  IME Olympic lifters don't really front squat in that position.  That crazy position mostly comes from the catch phase in heavy cleans.  Their back squats and front squats are more traditional.

You're probably familar with and looking at how US weightlifters squat. They're not very good at doing olympic style squats, for one reason or another, they end up adopting a very PC dominant style even with their 'olympic squats'.

Knees are not unsafe in a very forward style as illustrated in the first picture. The reason you might think that though, is because you haven't learnt to do the olympic squat properly :) If you go from a PL style squat with vertical shins to an olympic squat, yes it will hurt your knees, even with the empty bar. The PL style doesn't depend on using the muscles directly around the knee and below of the lower leg. This is because you haven't taught your body the correct way to do an olympic squat which is very safe for the knees. PL style squat dont teach you to recruit the muscles of the lower leg to stabilise the knee at the bottom of a deep olympic squat.  If you use your calves and hamstrings and quads (near the knee) and contract them while going into the hole, the knee is supported very well by these muscles. You just have to try this out yourself. Think of the muscles around your knee activating to absorb your descent into the hole and you'll find the stress on knees is reduced. The video above goes into this a bit too.

You'll notice one thing about these squats, there is a very tiny angle btw hips crease and the knees, the knees are almost horizontal as are quads. This means the quads are in a better position to act out of the bottom of a hole. If someone does a 'deep squat' like KingFisher or my front squats, this means the quads are not able to act immediately out of the hole since they are over stretched. That's bad. Instead in that case it's the glutes and hamstrings which bounce you out, and then the about halfway up quads kick in. This isn't a quad dominant olympic squat. That's why I was going on about depth being misunderstood, because for the purposes of an olympic squat, it's more about the depth of the knee rather than the ass vs the knee.

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The second image is more balanced.  You will get quad and glute work (although lesser) and hamstring strength.  All 3 are needed for athletes who run so this is the more common approach.  It also allows more weight so ou see it is more similar to a power lifter squat.  Starting strength is a classic example  of this style.

Depends on the person! My HBBS are so hamstring dominant, hell even my FS are so hamstring and glute dominant that my attempts at olympic squats end up resembling the 2nd pic. It's a fault. Because in my case the weight is not directly over midfoot, it's ahead, sometimes even further than my toes. This leads to good morning squats. Not enough training for my legs. Not enough quad development.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: September 11, 2013, 12:21:03 pm »
Quote from: Mutumbo000 on September 11, 2013, 12:00:40 pm
Quote from: entropy on September 11, 2013, 11:50:18 am
Quote from: Mutumbo000 on September 11, 2013, 11:42:12 am
Quote from: entropy on September 11, 2013, 11:22:32 am
Shit i dont have a short torso. haha. So guess i'm not a deadlifter build either? Wtf am i then :P

But that makes sense Mutumbo000. I guess there is a difference between being athletic and SUITED to lifting (eg oly lifters). And being athletic and being unsuited to lifting (eg basketballer builds). It's like that video of the bulgarian dude doing a 4x bw FS. And raptor said he must have a 50" vertical. But. His femurs are a lot smaller. So he might still have a huge vertical, but what makes his lifting so good is what makes him bad at jumping. It goes the other way too, if you have bad proportions for lifting, you actually get the most out of lifting since it converts better to athletic endavour. So jordan wouldn't need a 500lb squat, he might only need a 400 one (to get athletic improvements)

I got huge gains from front squatting by the time I was using 100kg for reps even though someone who is build perfectly for squatting would need to get to say 150kg to get the same benefit. So it's a big struggle for me to get to 150kg, but when I get there, i'll have a similar benefit to a build-to-squat person who is now squatting 250kg..

Exactly. In the end it kind of evens itself out. Like I've never been able to squat 3 plates. However, the first time I ever deadlifted I did 3 plates. I'm not sure why I can't squat. Maybe I have low test or slow twitch muscles because despite how weak my squat is I actually do put a lot of effort into it. That said I think if I could ever squat 4 or 5 plates at my current bodyweight than I would probably be running 100m in mid 10s but that's a lot easier said than done.

We talked about this recently in my log where Todday disagree with me but I think you are very strong, that's what your DL says. Walking into a gym first time and pulling 3 plates says exactly that. His theory is sprinters naturally have a lot of back strength from isometric training. But I think it's a true test of strength. The squat is much more about technique and skill. That's not talking about build which I admit goes for deadlift too (good deadlifters might be bad (olympic) squatters and vice versa). As far as what it would take for you to squat 4 or 5. I'd love to know that too, for you. Maybe when you focus on strength you should post videos from a variety of angles, to see if there is some glaring fixable fault that you're unaware of, like i said, highly technique dependent. Build to squat guys will accuse you for overthinking etc, but they don't understand how hard it is for someone not build to squat to get good at it and make progress!!

Or maybe we just need to leg presses. Like really really heavy leg presses. I sometimes think I could build my leg strength a lot better with a machine because it would challenge only my legs and not my stupid mickeymouse build which wants to fold over like a house of cards at the slightest provocation while trying to challenge my legs with a heavy weight on the squat..

Yeah it's frustrating. Especially when you go on sites like bodybuilding.com where every man and his dog seems to be able to squat 4 plates and people say that everybody should be squatting 315 within a year of training.

I dont place much stock on what people say about their squats online. Most of the time when you see it, either their depth is shit, or they're using shit form, or they're leaning over. There are guys who are using layers and layers of knee wraps and thick belts and doing heavy good mornings which they'll cite as their squat numbers. It's meaningless. Might as well tell me what you deadlift instead. A squat should be squat-like not pull-like.  Unless your squat could go in my Beautiful squats thread, i have zero interest in lol. If you're a clarence kenedy doing nice upright heavy squats or a chinese olympian squatting the world with textbook olympic form then i'm impressed, and only because it satisfied my sense of aesthetics while at the same time being very heavy but the latter is just a prerequisite, the beauty is what I enjoy the most.

For instance I dislike my own form, ashamed of it even, i wont post any more vids again. even if i achieve some respectable numbers i'll always be ashamed because it's not pretty to look at. And that's the point, for me squatting is more art than material for the ego. I can't stand people who tout their squat numbers as if it means anything because 9 times out of 10 their squats are ugly.

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You go on forums to look for advice and it's always along the lines of 'squat 3x a week and eat more'. Eating more is ok if you don't care about putting on weight.

So true. You can do the eat a lot and squat a lot thing. I could listen to them and I could have done it all the way to 115kg bw like they'd say for someone my height and probably squatted 160-200kg for reps. But fuck that.  What will that achieve? It would then take me 2 years or more to cut back to 10% bodyfat and i wont be able to keep my strength for a cut that takes that long. Unless I take steroids, i'd never do that, would kill my athletic dreams and give me a host of health problems which I don't need.

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Than there's people that are around my weight that do have very good squats but usually they are only around 5'5-5'8 and built for squatting anyway. My track season has almost started so I don't think there's a lot that I can do to dramatically increase my strength. Next year I'm not going to play rugby when my track season finishes I'm just going to use the 6 months to stay injury free and go squatting 3 or maybe even 4x a week with 3x5 or smolov or whatever routine I need to do to get great leg strength.

Yea. Build for squat types are blessed in one way, but they have to add so much weight to their squats, it's not the blessing it would seem. Like if they have to train up a 250kg olympic squat with athletic bodyfat to get a 40" vertical it will take a lot of hard work and single minded dedication. And then someone like me would gain as much athleticism by just getting a 150+kg FS. It's not fair, but i'm saying that too because it's hard for me to get to 150 lol.

I dunno about smolov for building leg strength. I think it's a powerlifting program to peak for a meet. And that's about it. If you eat a lot maybe it will build keepable muscle and strength too. But i'd rather do a proper mass gain routine to put 5-6" on your legs, however it may look (depending on your body). And then just train for strength with compound lifts to use the mass, squat 2-3x a week like you would normally just adding weight regularly up 180+kg while staying lean.


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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: September 11, 2013, 11:50:18 am »
Quote from: Mutumbo000 on September 11, 2013, 11:42:12 am
Quote from: entropy on September 11, 2013, 11:22:32 am
Shit i dont have a short torso. haha. So guess i'm not a deadlifter build either? Wtf am i then :P

But that makes sense Mutumbo000. I guess there is a difference between being athletic and SUITED to lifting (eg oly lifters). And being athletic and being unsuited to lifting (eg basketballer builds). It's like that video of the bulgarian dude doing a 4x bw FS. And raptor said he must have a 50" vertical. But. His femurs are a lot smaller. So he might still have a huge vertical, but what makes his lifting so good is what makes him bad at jumping. It goes the other way too, if you have bad proportions for lifting, you actually get the most out of lifting since it converts better to athletic endavour. So jordan wouldn't need a 500lb squat, he might only need a 400 one (to get athletic improvements)

I got huge gains from front squatting by the time I was using 100kg for reps even though someone who is build perfectly for squatting would need to get to say 150kg to get the same benefit. So it's a big struggle for me to get to 150kg, but when I get there, i'll have a similar benefit to a build-to-squat person who is now squatting 250kg..

Exactly. In the end it kind of evens itself out. Like I've never been able to squat 3 plates. However, the first time I ever deadlifted I did 3 plates. I'm not sure why I can't squat. Maybe I have low test or slow twitch muscles because despite how weak my squat is I actually do put a lot of effort into it. That said I think if I could ever squat 4 or 5 plates at my current bodyweight than I would probably be running 100m in mid 10s but that's a lot easier said than done.

We talked about this recently in my log where Todday disagree with me but I think you are very strong, that's what your DL says. Walking into a gym first time and pulling 3 plates says exactly that. His theory is sprinters naturally have a lot of back strength from isometric training. But I think it's a true test of strength. The squat is much more about technique and skill. That's not talking about build which I admit goes for deadlift too (good deadlifters might be bad (olympic) squatters and vice versa). As far as what it would take for you to squat 4 or 5. I'd love to know that too, for you. Maybe when you focus on strength you should post videos from a variety of angles, to see if there is some glaring fixable fault that you're unaware of, like i said, highly technique dependent. Build to squat guys will accuse you for overthinking etc, but they don't understand how hard it is for someone not build to squat to get good at it and make progress!!

Or maybe we just need to leg presses. Like really really heavy leg presses. I sometimes think I could build my leg strength a lot better with a machine because it would challenge only my legs and not my stupid mickeymouse build which wants to fold over like a house of cards at the slightest provocation while trying to challenge my legs with a heavy weight on the squat..



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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: September 11, 2013, 11:22:32 am »
Shit i dont have a short torso. haha. So guess i'm not a deadlifter build either? Wtf am i then :P

But that makes sense Mutumbo000. I guess there is a difference between being athletic and SUITED to lifting (eg oly lifters). And being athletic and being unsuited to lifting (eg basketballer builds). It's like that video of the bulgarian dude doing a 4x bw FS. And raptor said he must have a 50" vertical. But. His femurs are a lot smaller. So he might still have a huge vertical, but what makes his lifting so good is what makes him bad at jumping. It goes the other way too, if you have bad proportions for lifting, you actually get the most out of lifting since it converts better to athletic endavour. So jordan wouldn't need a 500lb squat, he might only need a 400 one (to get athletic improvements)

I got huge gains from front squatting by the time I was using 100kg for reps even though someone who is build perfectly for squatting would need to get to say 150kg to get the same benefit. So it's a big struggle for me to get to 150kg, but when I get there, i'll have a similar benefit to a build-to-squat person who is now squatting 250kg..

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: acole14's journal - DUNK OR DIE
« on: September 11, 2013, 11:05:44 am »
^testing vs training!

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I also had success with an approach to front squatting that had been recommended to me by world record holding squatter Sam Byrd. It was basically training for weekly PRs but with an emphasis on volume and reps and not missing reps. I adapted his regimen a little bit and had tremendous success!

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Monday: Front Squats 3 sets x 5-8 reps, 1 set x 1-4 reps

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Front squats were the workhorse and back squats heavy every week turned the strength into results. It was a very simple program, but was very demanding. For the front squats I never missed a single rep. For the back squats I missed many.

http://www.jtsstrength.com/articles/2013/01/25/the-greatest-squat-article-ever/

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The best exercise for improving my squat has been the front squat. I learned them during my Olympic lifting years, but reinstated them in my powerlifting regimen after speaking with Mr. Sam Byrd.

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Of course the most important way to improve the squat is to just squat and squat heavy! But for me the front squat has been huge. This is because of the nature of the exercise. Because the front squat forces you to not lean forward, you are forced not to allow your lower back strength to take over the lift. It forces you to squat with the knees forward loading up the quads. This is key for me because I have fairly long legs and had always had trouble not letting my back take over during heavy back squats. Front squats force the quads to do the work. Also holding a barbell racked across your chest and shoulders will provide enormous work for the upper back–erectors and traps. I like to use the front squat in the 5-8 rep range to really build the quads with high volume. Maxes are ok too but I feel reps carry over to the back squat best.

http://www.jtsstrength.com/articles/2013/01/22/how-i-built-my-best-squat-ever-front-squats/
At the risk of belaboring the point, when you start FS, esp when you've been backsquatting and have strong legs from an athletic background, your legs are much stronger than your rack. But you need a very strong rack to use a heavy weight to challenge your legs. So you do higher reps to build your rack strength. Since initially you can progress the FS as easily for 8 reps as 3, it's more beneficial since it train an essential part of the FS. Eventually your FS weights will get heavy in which case they'll be challenging enough for legs. At that point heavy low rep sets is the way to go imho. Although I agree with Green that higher rep sets build strength better --- if  -- they're heavy enough to challenge your legs. No point doing doing 8s with 80kg to build strength as I see some guys do online when your legs are strong enough to backsquat 180kg.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: acole14's journal - DUNK OR DIE
« on: September 11, 2013, 08:47:08 am »
Those look really nice. I'd say it's ok train with higher reps 5-8 while you're learning the movement. You'll get more benefit that way than doing low reps with light weight. Later when your FS catches up with your BS you can switch to low reps for strength. In the mean time you'll gain more by strengthening your rack (via longer reps). FWIW Danny Green trains exclusively with higher reps on FS, he says it does more for his leg strength. I think that's probably true when your FS is heavy enough that high reps are sufficiently heavy to work your legs hard but the rest of us get more out of lower reps for building leg strength.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: September 11, 2013, 08:29:32 am »
Re squatmornings:- If I have any body part which I can consider to have good muscular development it is my hamstrings, which I never train exclusively, only by accident via squat morning. It's funny when I look around online and see guys who do hamstring work with RDLs for example and I could easily go out and do more weight on RDL for more reps even though I don't do hamstring work. No deadlifts, no pulls at all, no GHRs etc. It's because i'm 'blessed' with deadlifter proportions and my squats turn into squat mornings meaning I work my hamstrings as well as someone else just by doing backsquats. I would trade places at once with someone with a squatter build if it meant my squats were squat-like rather than deadlift-like! I'd make a better powerlifter than an olympic lifter. It just so happens I look down on typical PL technique as vulgar and unathletic (which it is). Olympic form is much prettier and of course athletic too which is what we're interested in here.

Wondering, do sprinters have deadlifter builds or squatter ones? What about basketball players? Which athletes have deadlifter builds? I doubt there is any, since my prejudice says they're not good athletes lol.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / chasing athleticism -- W2D2
« on: September 11, 2013, 07:14:20 am »
Training
FS 1x117.5, 1x125, 2Fx129
BS 5x6x60, 6x90, 6x100

FS notes:
I paid for my form sins commited monday. Squat mornings destroyed my lower back such that it was impossible to the scheduled workout. That sucks but I stuck to the plan and did technique work with backsquat after the FS.

BS notes:
Think i'm good with my backsquat form now with elevated heels on 2.5kg plates. Just have to work up the weights back to my old PRs and then crush them from being more upright. I get my WL shoes next week, so hopefully i can transition smoothly onto using them from my work with heel elevated sets.
So since I wasn't able to get my proper FS 3RM attempt today. I will have to attempt in on friday. Which sucks because it was supposed to be BS heavy day so doing FS first will likely cost me a BS PR. That's even if my back recovers by then to train properly.

Will do some ohp later tonight, was supposed to do chinups but since I have to FS heavy friday, I wont touch that shit lest it wrecks my FS rack. So bit of a mess but it's ok, i'll recover ground somehow.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: September 11, 2013, 07:03:13 am »
Quote from: Mutumbo000 on September 09, 2013, 07:51:15 am
Strong front squats like usual.

Thanks! I'll take that in advance for when I squat 3x140kg @ 75kg :strong:

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: analyse my squat bar path
« on: September 09, 2013, 11:17:32 am »
True but you can still learn a few things just have to be careful about your conclusions. Like if you're forward of midfoot unweighted, well, adding weight will shift the weight even further. So that's a useful diagnostic. I'm learning more by doing unweighted stuff than anything I do with weight. The final judge is weighted heavy of course cause that's what matters in the end. But to fix technique it's ok to take the simplest system available (unweighted) since there are less variables to consider!

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