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Can you do them with upright arms and flat spine with the bar overhead or does it fly forward to to your toes? It's a good test for mobility. If you can do it reasonably well it means you've got decent mobility. I do them for warming up to squatting. To start with, I have terrible OHS form, but as I work on my mobility it gets better and when I can do a comfortable OHS i'll go on to my FS workout.

edit, so this is my pre-workout mobility sequence
- loosen up my upper and middle back and shoulders with a band stretch. not sure what it's called but draw out the band in front of you with palms out and then take it behind and touch your lower back and repeat it. Usually do about 2 sets of 8 or until I feel freed up
- take a pvc pipe to my traps and behind my neck, that takes seconds, but it's important because it frees up your neck to have a comfortable rack position without choking yourself etc
- roll on a softball against a wall traps, lats that upper mid back area. This is quick too, about 20-30 seconds and done
- work down the back but also take a very painful detour around the obliques (i think) -- rollling here is very painful but if you do it right (arms up in the air), it will do wonders for t-spine mobility
- new one for me is painful but awesome -- rolling on my glutes -- need this to have a decent upright position at the bottom of a squat so it's v. important
- usual kstar bullshit stretches everyone does, so called couch stretch which is a bit useless imho but i do it anyway because everyone raves about it
- roll hips against wall ..  i think pirformis? hurts like hell but it's cool
- free up quads, softball roll against wall .. magic for knees
- very important, ankles and calves, have to use pvc pipe for lower leg
- finally weighted ankle stretch, this feels so wrong but i kinda do it anyway, get into a squat position with the empty barbell across your quads near the knee, push down to stretch ankle on each side Then work up to using weight. i usually finish with 60kg on this, no shoes because that seems to help with the stretch

and im sure i'm forgetting some but if i go thru all that, will have decent mobility to do an easy comfortable correct OHS which then tells me i'm ready for FS.

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Try using the OHS as a diagnostic.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / chasing athleticism -- W3D3
« on: September 20, 2013, 10:19:18 am »
FS 0Fx132.5, 2x127.5, 6x102.5 (PR), 5x107.5, 6x100
BS 1x135, 6x112.5
BP 3x90, 5x86
ÇU 7x90, 3x100, 3x95
BRO 10x40, 10x50
OBGB 2x20

New training obsessions is rows.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / chasing athleticism -- W3D2
« on: September 18, 2013, 04:53:44 am »
Training
FS 2x110, 1x120, 1x130, 2x120, 3/4x110, 6x100 (PR)

BS 3x100, 6x110, 3x120, 4x115, 3x100

FS notes:
First shot with new WL shoes. I went down to a newly opened local gym to test them out because I haven't redone the flooring for my home gym yet and I don't wanna use the NR2s on the paved flooring in case it scruffs up the soles.

The gym was to unpredictably defy my attempts at a decent workout. To start with they have 20kg, 10kg plates and 5kg plates. And that's it. So if you're weak like me and you want to squat with 105, 112.5, 117.5, 125kg or 127.5kg you're out of luck.  ie no 2.5kg or 5kg jumps just 10kg lol. This is a big ass expensive gym that just opened btw. I dont know what you're supposed to do. So my warmup sequence which is usually 3x90, 2x105, 1x117.5, 1x125 became 3x90, 2x110, 1x120, 1x130. Not ideal, cause i'm not used to it. For my worksets I had planned on doing triples with 125kg and 115kg but i simply couldnt. Serves me right for not taking my own (1.25 and 2.5kg) plates right? I should know by now gyms are retarded and plan in advance.

Quote from: mc cunty ranty
- warning  rant below, skip if not interested..  --
I had to wait 20 minutes for some starting strengther bros do their quarter squats with 110kg first while I sat there like a pervert watching them them do their thing. Not even hating, cause i'm sure they'd be complaining about the weird as fuck guy who did shitty reverse squats in the deadlift cage with baby weights while they sat idly. I felt like a real piece of shit working up to my massive 130kg squat while ppl waited for me to leave so they could do their half squats with 90kg. The guy in the rack next to me was doing, no joke, decline bench press with 70kg. In the fucking 'deadlift rack'. Why is that even necessary i dunno. I keep saying deadlift rack cause a PT came and chased away 2 strengthers from the rack so that he could train his client with RDLs off the ground with awesome form. Why you have to do that in a power cage i dunno, but there you go.

Btw I think this whole 'you got to squat bro' movement is misguided. Most of these casual gym squatters would be better off using machines for leg strength. Hell I think i'm probably included in that category, squats done badly are way worse than machines done not-bad. 

I felt that my quads were being hit very hard, esp considering i did very little volume (or intensity for that matter). So that's a great sign that the shoes will help me with acquiring highly sought after athletic leg strength. I was also able to FS 130kg as well as I have with flatter shoes. I mean i was in no danger of repping it, because I was very weak today, but otherwise signs are good that the shoes are helping the areas I needed the most help.

Btw I did a lot of paused reps too, just because I was annoyed with the situation with the plates, to make the workout slightly less shit.

I've got post traumatic gym stress now. I'm gonna put on my old shoes and do some back squats when my heart rate goes back to normal.

BS notes:
Pretty ordinary session. But i noticed i have midfoot bar path on one rep?!. Not sure how that happened or what I did differently on the descent lol. interesting.


I didn't get a chance to do mobility work today. Will def do it before friday's workout though. I feel as though i'm close to making a form breakthrough, i just need to get everything to align before it happens. Mobility, recovery, strength, motivation, shoes.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: September 18, 2013, 04:42:03 am »
Nice! They are a cool looking pair of shoes. I love mine. Interested to see how you go in them.

Shoes were perfect to squat in. They fit me like a glove and what I thought was too snug before simply disappeared once they moulded to my feet. The only thing I noticed was the straps drag underneath the foot when I walk around but otherwise i love them! More detail in the workout log.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: September 17, 2013, 11:39:41 pm »


Nike Romaleos 2 are pretty sweet. Nicest shoe i've had.  Very snug though on my R foot. Wish it was slightly wider, they're really narrow lol. I wonder how narrow the Adidas must be since the Romaloes are said to be wider than than adipowers etc. I put them on and tried air squats, hit depth and had a flat back which was cool, cause I hadn't done any moblity work yet. Will do my usual mobility sequence later and then try squatting. I'm running on low sleep and dont think i'll hit any PRs today so I'll just enjoy the workout. Friday is gonna be all business though, i wanna get some PRs, it's been a while since I last got a squat one.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: September 17, 2013, 04:41:14 am »
I've been taking mobility a bit more seriously. Have been looking at getting a foam roller, may help with my squat form. In the mean time I rolled my glutes on a softball on the floor. Hurts a fair bit. But already made a huge difference immediately with a bodyweight squat test. Which is promising!!! Wish I tried this earlier.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: September 17, 2013, 02:26:56 am »
Might just be a temporary thing but i'm close to 195lb today



Next wednesday i'd like to be around 192-193 so I can PR my front squat to a milestone 3x130kg. Depends how strict I can be, with my birthday this week and all. But we'll see how it goes.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / chasing athleticism -- W3D1
« on: September 16, 2013, 04:23:58 am »
Training
FS 1x117.5, 1x125, 1x130, 3Fx120
BS 3x120, 2x127.5, 1x129

Orange Band Glute bridge 3x15
Pushups 8, 10, 12
Orange Band leg press 2x15
OB 1leg Leg press 2x25

FS notes:
So lots of volume fatigues CNS (quoting the 101 lesson thing mutombo highlighted). That's interesting. Explains why I was retardly weak today after overdoing it on friday. In fact muscularly I feel quite fresh but i guess it's the CNS which is dampened ...... that blews my mind a little. Have to respect volume.

BS notes:
Was just warming up when a flash flood passed by and stormed out my gym. lulz. Would have kept squatting but my shoes were slipping all over the place and it's probably not a great idea to squat. Might go check out a gym nearby and get some sets in, if i can be bothered. Blah

Bodyweight stuff:
Just fooled around with bodyweight exercises. Pretty fun and not that easy. Should do this sort of thing more often!


ok that's all for now.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: September 14, 2013, 04:27:58 am »
I was going to write 'the missing link' just for you LBSS but thought to be slightly more subtle. Haha. This one jacked housewife has discovered the ultimate secret to quad length and girth. Click here to find out more.

Fasted all day today. Went to the 'mall' as the kids say to get out and walk around to take my mind off being hungry. Just to get used to being hungry as fuck. I reason that once my body gets adjusted to being hungry, i'll have an easier time stringing together a few weeks of unbroken compliance. So far so good. I think mentally i'm almost there into that zealous cutting mindzone where i'm fully committed and nothing will stop me from my goal.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: September 13, 2013, 01:20:47 pm »
Re: the discussion with mutombo about leg training

Quote from: dan green
Hack Squats – Hack squats are a classic bodybuilding exercise and are my preferred exercise for building up larger quad size. I prefer the hack squats because they place very little stress on the back and isolate the quads I feel better than leg pressing. They also allow you to practice driving your hips forward as you would if you are a quad dominant squatter who also engages the hips well. Like any exercise I will try to push these so the rep and weight combinations are difficult to complete, but shooting for 1-2 very hard sets of 20 is ideal here.

I'll put this to the test next week. It might be just the thing i've been looking for..

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Are your glutes and hams as developed?

Kingfish, entropy wants bare ass photos.

but seriously holy crap kingfish that quad is glorious

lol



wouldn't mind a map or a legend to what's photographed there. Is that kingfisher's knee or muscles??

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / chasing athleticism -- W2D3
« on: September 13, 2013, 09:43:43 am »
Training
FS 1x117.5, 1x125, 2Fx129, 0Fx132.5
BS 3x120, 2x127.5, 2Fx135, 0Fx140, 1x130, 1x132.5, 1x130, 1x130, 1x127.5, 1x125, 1x127.5, 1x122.5
BP 5x89.5 (PR)
WCU 7x92kg (PR)

FS notes:
Paradoxically I had a really good FS day, my technique was solid and I would have got a PR today contrary to expectation from poor preparation. Will crush it on wednesday with my current technique, just wasn't strong enough today.

Technique sets to come. Second thought, i might skip it today. Wanna see what becomes sore tmr.

BS notes:
Did a lot of singles just nailing down technique. Happy with it. I'm emulating the TK style squat at least in my mind when doing these.


Bench if i can be bothered later tonight

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Are your glutes and hams as developed? If i'm right they shud be more developed..

edit more explanations --

1. Your quads show development consistent with a person who does 475lb paused back squats regardless of style

2. Not to say you use zero quads in your style, it's def more than someone doing a LBBS say, but not as much as someone doing a TK style olympic squat

3. You were born with them you haven't acquired them thru your backsquats (?)

4. If you used TK style olympic squats you'd have even more impressive quads

5. low bodyfat makes fools of us all

6. i'm completely wrong but i doubt it :P

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Why don't you just make front squat your primary exercise? It seems close enough to your back squat at the moment that your rack strength isn't an issue.

lol, if only life were so simple.

My FS is limited by quad strength, and it trains glutes and hamstrings
My BS is limited by lower back and hamstring strength and it trains the quads

FS is a cool exercise and all, but it doesn't do anything for my leg strength. When my BS went up, my FS went up nicely. BS gets stuck, FS gets stuck. FS is not my panacea.

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