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Quote from: Raptor on June 11, 2011, 11:50:39 am

If that were true I'd have a 2x squat since 3 years ago. If it was as simple as putting a bar on your back and doing your workout and your squat will increase liniarly.

Well man, what can I say? I guess you are right then, I have been wrong all the time and you will never have a 2x bw squat ever, regardless of what you do.

Duh, finally. Thank you.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd8prMsbIsY" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd8prMsbIsY</a>

Any athlete that has a legit TRAINED 36-38" SVJ started out with a 30-32+.

Let me ask you people this:

What does "started out" mean? It's not a  definable thing. What does starting out mean? That when I was 1 year old I could jump 32? That when I started to grow I could jump 32? That when I got past teenage I was jumping 32? That I can jump 32 without doing any training whatsoever? What about playing sports? Doesn't that affect my SVJ? What if I squat for bodybuilding purposes for 5 years already? What if I don't squat at all? What if I'm a powerlifter or Olympic lifter that doesn't train for a SVJ?

And so on and so forth. What does "started out" mean? This is stupid beyond anything I can think of.

Current endeavours of Joel:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pux49yiIhMw" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pux49yiIhMw</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jeeULkUQjo" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jeeULkUQjo</a>

Clean to bodyweight pr at 1.46x, Need to get my squat up though as it is only around 315lb right now.

How explosive can you be with that clean and squat?

I don't get one thing: what is this thread really about? I mean, the half squat is a SPP strength exercise in athletics (track&field and other sports). It also can be used as GPP for people that get enough glute and general muscle stimulation with the half squat and that don't perform full squats well due to structural factors/flexibility factors/injuries/don't care about the full squat.

If the half squat does it's thing as a strength increase exercise then what's the beef?

Also, as a SPP exercise, it trains the reversal strength in the same exact point where a guy would want to reverse the eccentric into concentric. That will never happen with full squats. It's such an important factor in doing half squats instead of full squats.

Now you could come in and say "yeah but you could do full squats + depth jumps and get the best of both worlds."

Well yeah, you can, if you ignore the shocks in the joints that the depth jumps would generate. Those over time will take their toll. With half squats you can overload that eccentric, coupling and concentric phases without having to get these shocks.

So I think you don't have to be a genius to understand this and you don't need any more than these few phrases^^^ here to sum it up. There's no need for such a big discussion.

My knees are really going forward on my two leg bounds... probably the arm swing isn't timed perfectly either, so that increases my amortization phase time.

But I really agree with what you're saying.

In the sprint, I naturally feel that I should straighten up immediately... so I only stay down because I voluntarily want to stay there. Otherwise I'd be tall after my first step.

What I don't understand is what you're saying about the pelvis... I'm not aware of what is wrong with my one leg bounds. Not letting the pelvis move = ? You mean, I should focus more on using a straight leg instead of letting the hips lower and load? That would mean high hips and that would be really weird, for the people I've seen they almost all load the leg and release that energy with quite a bit of bend in that leg.

I wonder what's Kelly's point of view on the matter. After all, he's the one who kind of trains people for increasing the SVJ, since that will mean also an increase in the RVJ. For him personally, I think he went from ~20 inches to 35+ just by pretty much increasing his strength.

As for me, I think, just as for everybody else, the SVJ increases as the squat increases. Probably just as simple as that. But I'm a better SVJ jumper than the regular Joe, it kind of comes naturally to me.

You and the smallest black guy have some very thin shins.