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Quote from: StuckInTheAir on June 28, 2011, 02:21:09 am

hit a decent  today, actually got my head at rim (10ft)....been wanting to do this for years....reppin' this place!



                                             


p.s. sorry about quality, my friend was recording with his ancient nokia phone and I had to rip off a pic

amazing jump, TFB should be calling any time now..

congrats dude.

what would "way before failure" be?

I'm going to have an opinion against roids now, because I have such an opinion as well.

I think the most important thing is sports is to create/mold/strengthten the mentality to work to win. That is what you lose/don't obtain when you take roids. You take the easy way out and you don't have a winning mentality. When you work hard and fight to increase your strength, increase your performance through the "traditional methods" you gain that work hard mentality and you "expect" to win. You work hard and WANT to win because you worked so hard and failing to win after such a hard work SUCKS, and if you lose you come back again and again and FIGHT.

This is the whole idea with sports and training. And this is what roids will usually rob you of. That's why roid people usually are losers and weak.

But from a pure performance standpoint, roids are cool. However, since we don't live in a vacuum, that's hardly the case in realife: to split performance and mentality and other sports aspects into separate, living enthities.

That's my point of view to sports in general and just winning mentality.

So I definitely agree and believe and KNOW what Steven Miller is saying. Heck, I know a few guys like that. They just pretty much suck.

EDIT: These guys just look at me like "wtf" when I deadlift ~120 kg or squat 120kg, pretty much in shock. How lame is that?

Quote from: Raptor on June 28, 2011, 05:58:05 am

Have you ever tried RL plants so far?

ya i suck at them

   If you are debating whether or not steroids should be legalized, then you have some ground to stand on there, if you are comparing taking steroids to training with weights, its a silly comparison.  You cant compare sticking a needle in your ass to spending years and years busting your ass under a barbell.

 Training with barbells is not illegal or against any rules, its an even playing field, but one that takes actual BALLS to do.

The main reason taking steroids is an advantage in the first place is because not everyone is willing to break the rules and cheat, so the ones that do actually have an advantage.  

 The people who get affected by steroids in sports are the ATHLETES, that want to stay clean, but have to compete against cheaters who have a clear advantage in their training.  If they are made legal then you have a level playing field, but many athletes dont want to literally be forced into taking drugs to play their sport and compete in their event, which is what that would entail.  Its easy to look from the outside in like many do and say there is no problem with drugs, but when its your job to compete, and YOU ARE FOLLOWING THE RULES, and you get beat by someone who IS BREAKING THE RULES, then its a different story.

I dont agree with many of the drug policies regarding recreational drugs and the what Gary said about alcohol is very true, but two wrongs dont make a right.  I dont like steroids in sports, it causes things like threads on starting strength about "why usa weightlifters arent strong", when some athletes have to stay cleaner than others, and the ones using get to come out looking like they are "better".

Bottom line is rules are rules, and if youre playing a sport that has rules, you should have enough dignity to stay within those boundaries or do something else.  Most the people talking about steroids arent even anywhere close to a point that they couldnt make tons more progress if they knew how to train right or trained hard enough anyway.