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I think there are other people that jump very well off one leg that are heavy: Cannon Brown for example. James White put quite a bit of muscle, especially upperbody, on him and he is jumping the same if not more right now. So I don't know. Vince, back in the day when he weighed ~225 lbs at one point was still jumping great off one leg.

I think bodyfat % is even more important in one-leg jumpers for some reason, that reason probably being putting you out of the optimal position for jumping.

You eastern people have a lot of money on your hands don't you?

I watched a video of a guy who progressed into standing and even decline ab wheel rollouts and he recommended against the "wall" thing. Instead, he said you need to do your standing ab wheel rollouts in the beginning on an incline surface or on certain incline benches in the gym.

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WTF?

Hip Flexor. I wanted to emphasize that thing with the hip flexors because really, most people don't even know it's possible to train them well with the ab wheel.

In what variant do you think the hip flexors get better stimulation: the standing ab wheel rollout or the kneeling one?

How do you strengthen the low abs? Are they being stimulated with ab wheel rollouts?

Quote from: Raptor on July 21, 2011, 02:28:53 pm

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Quote from: Raptor on July 21, 2011, 01:17:09 pm

How it's a contradiction? I think mass is detrimental but additional leg muscle at a sub ~2.5 squat helps more than it kills. Meaning - you get a higher force output as a + but you need more effort from the CNS/core/other untrained small muscles to move as a - . I see the CNS power in absolute terms (like everyone of us having a battery in their bodies) that is drained more by the additional mass it has to move around, regardless of it's nature.

Adding muscle cannot be detrimental and useful at the same time because there is only one net effect in the end. This net effect might be the result of independent mechanisms, but what matters is the outcome of a higher, equal or lower VJ.

If you put a bigger and heavier engine in a car, it will have a bigger power production (positive effect) but it will burn more fuel and maybe, due to the higher forces, wear some other components out (negative effect).

 the problem with statement is the human body is not a car, not even close.  our "parts" adapt just like anything else to increased strength/stress and get bigger, stronger, faster.

 also, dont say mass hurts ATHLETICISM, thats insane, tell that to some of the football guys who went from 150 - 190 and got much faster, more explosive, and became 10x the players the were.  If you said it hurts, "vertical jump", you would still be wrong in several different ways, but youd have some ground to stand on at least.

Yeah that's true, sprinters or football players would punch me if they heard that but high jumpers would kiss you if they heard what you said. Haha.

Well, in theory, your center of gravity will be a bit lower and your back will be a bit straighter.