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Lance, what were the numbers of the single leg box squat when your athletes were doing them? I'm curious how strong they were in that movement, them being high level.

 170 lb male at 365 x 3 

 160 lb female at 315 x 2

Holy shit.

One of my profs had an olympic triple Jumper  that took 315 in the squat rack, unracked it  as if he was going to do a free squat, then proceeded to sit into a legal depth squat one ONE LEG, and with the trailing leg tucked up against his hip.  The balance required to do that alone would be insane.  He repped it a few times and racked it, never stumbled or strained once.

Ridiculous. Wish there was some footage, I'd love to see that.

 There is footage, we saw several tapes from the training compiled of each cycle up to the competition phase. I was fortunate to have her as a teacher as she was the assistant to the usatf team, and we got access to stuff we wouldve otherwise not seen.  Getting that footage to show here is next to impossible though, since it was over 10 years ago, and across the state :P.

Hah, too bad. Just the numbers themselves are mindblowing, I wonder how much more if you could see that on vid.

I still can't wrap my mind around the weight, really. Just shows you how strong you have to be to be elite. Definitely not just leverage and tendon length or what have you.

Exactly, at that level EVERYONE has gifts, training makes or breaks the winners.  I will say that the guy doing the one leg squat with no support/box had VERY long tibia to femur ratios, making it easier to get the upper thigh to a parallel position. I dont think that exercise is mandatory at all, but it does give a glimpse into what kind of forces elites need to create off one leg, even on the strength end of the continuum.

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Lance, what were the numbers of the single leg box squat when your athletes were doing them? I'm curious how strong they were in that movement, them being high level.

 170 lb male at 365 x 3 

 160 lb female at 315 x 2

Holy shit.

One of my profs had an olympic triple Jumper  that took 315 in the squat rack, unracked it  as if he was going to do a free squat, then proceeded to sit into a legal depth squat one ONE LEG, and with the trailing leg tucked up against his hip.  The balance required to do that alone would be insane.  He repped it a few times and racked it, never stumbled or strained once.

Ridiculous. Wish there was some footage, I'd love to see that.

 There is footage, we saw several tapes from the training compiled of each cycle up to the competition phase. I was fortunate to have her as a teacher as she was the assistant to the usatf team, and we got access to stuff we wouldve otherwise not seen.  Getting that footage to show here is next to impossible though, since it was over 10 years ago, and across the state :P.

528
where did you go to school lance




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what did you study?

kinesiology

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Is there a background or bio page on you somewhere in this forum?

yes, in the intro section.

529
Lance, what were the numbers of the single leg box squat when your athletes were doing them? I'm curious how strong they were in that movement, them being high level.

 170 lb male at 365 x 3 

 160 lb female at 315 x 2

Holy shit.

One of my profs had an olympic triple Jumper  that took 315 in the squat rack, unracked it  as if he was going to do a free squat, then proceeded to sit into a legal depth squat one ONE LEG, and with the trailing leg tucked up against his hip.  The balance required to do that alone would be insane.  He repped it a few times and racked it, never stumbled or strained once.

530
At what depth?

 around an inch over parallel. The key is the foot placement, the further out in front, the better.

531
right, its creating a shorter lever, so the hamstrings are less involved, and can afford to  be weaker while still extending the hip.  The problem with that is akin to pole vaulting with a shorter pole, when youre on the run way.

532
ADARQ & LanceSTS - Q&A / Re: Long jump
« on: April 21, 2012, 04:35:20 pm »
I was asking because these Olympic athletes take a very long run-up for long jumps. It would be really interesting to know what's the longest run-up such an athlete took (what, 50 meters?)

Yea, the more experience they have, USUALLY, they take a longer run up.  Trying that with less experienced athletes usually results in less distance in the pit and more scratching/leaving too much  board.

533
I guess he's bending the knees to shorten the hamstring at the knee joint and thus taking tension off them... does that mean he does them glute dominant?

More of "hamstringLESS", keeping the knees in the same position would be glute "dominant" as well, he is buckling at the knee.  What do you think would happen if he was running at a fairly high speed, and planted on one leg to take off? Its hard for the glute to transfer force when the hamstrings cant do their part. 

534
Lance, what were the numbers of the single leg box squat when your athletes were doing them? I'm curious how strong they were in that movement, them being high level.

 170 lb male at 365 x 3 

 160 lb female at 315 x 2

535
ADARQ & LanceSTS - Q&A / Re: Long jump
« on: April 21, 2012, 10:18:27 am »
Thanks a lot Lance. I'll record the next jumps this week or next week and post them asap.

You bet Nightfly.

536
ADARQ & LanceSTS - Q&A / Re: Long jump
« on: April 21, 2012, 10:17:47 am »
Lance, do you know the longest run-up your own athletes have ever had?

 I dont remember man.

537
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3EITz60OSc" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3EITz60OSc</a>

5:13 into the video, the example of the reverse hyper showing the hamstring weakness is clear.

538
ADARQ & LanceSTS - Q&A / Re: Long jump
« on: April 20, 2012, 03:01:02 am »
  You can continue to phase your approach further and further out as long as your still hitting the same or greater distances in the pit.  Measure the steps the same way, make sure to constantly accelerate though, some people hit top speed faster than others.  If you get to a point youre actually decelerating, or no longer GAINING speed, youre too far, or you started too fast.

 Youll have to show me your takeoff for me to help you with anything else technique wise, there are so many things going on and you want to work on the most important ones first.


Glad to hear youre hitting bigger numbers man, keep up the good work!

539
time to try that turmeric root?

yes, thanks for reminding me. while i'm at it i'll pick up some rhus toxicodendron and make an appointment to get my subluxations checked out. oh, and to see what the tarot cards hold for my future. wouldn't want anything unexpected coming down the pike.

lmfao

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