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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: About the hangtime based vertical jump calculators
« on: December 24, 2009, 04:46:18 am »
Quote from: adarqui on December 23, 2009, 05:28:49 am
whoa.. awesome!!!!!!!!

120fps = fun fun fun.

cool man tell me how it goes.. with video timing, you can always take a few measurements... it would be interesting if you:

- calculated rvj using touch - reach .. touch on rim of course..
- compared that to: video timing of heels barely off ground AND toes FULLY extended right at takeoff... both timed until first contact with ground.

vag - psyence detective (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKl43SPgqCo)


My thoughts exactly , word by word!
Gonna have an ultra-epic "hangtime calculation vs reality" video up soon! ;)

lolzzzzzz @ psyience detective

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: About the hangtime based vertical jump calculators
« on: December 23, 2009, 04:48:09 am »
Well i just got a new mobile that features 120fps video, that minimizes the error to 1/120 of a second each side , so max error is 1/60 wich is 0,016666.
I would still prefer the highest touch - standing reach measurement , but now highest touch is an aproximation , trying to see from the vid how much i got above a measured rim!  :-\
Im leaning towards the 120fps hangtime thing , jsut wanted your opinion.
Probably gonna use both in next jump session to compare the results, that should be interesting...

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / About the hangtime based vertical jump calculators
« on: December 22, 2009, 02:05:48 pm »
Being an engineer i know well that the hangtime-vert calculation formula is 100% accurate, i even have my own excel version with the local gravity acceleration in the formula.
I was thinking:
The correct way to measure hangtime is to measure the time that the feet are in the air , from the first 'airborn' frame to the first 'touchdown frame'.
But doesnt that mean that we have a different measurement here compared to the normal one ( highest touch minus flat-footed reach )?
Instead of flat footed standing reach we are using 'toes-up' reach!
That would make the vertical measurements different by an amount equal to the flat-footed vs toes-up reach difference, wich would be ~4-5''.

What is your opinion?

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« on: December 21, 2009, 11:53:11 am »
Quote from: adarqui on December 20, 2009, 06:15:51 pm
snow is cool.. i saw it ONE time ;)

Quote from: LBSS on December 21, 2009, 11:10:07 am
We just got 18 inches here in DC...

snow is awsome , so is skiing!!!
The city i live though is at sea level , so it rarely snows here , like 1-2 days per year!
I have to drive 3,5 hours north and change country to get a decent ski resort...


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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« on: December 20, 2009, 02:02:19 pm »

19 December 2009

6hrs ski

Legs = toasted.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« on: December 18, 2009, 12:59:44 pm »
Quote from: LBSS on December 18, 2009, 12:12:27 pm
Somehow missed this before. I think I just got screwed on the elasticity gene. It's funny, I haven't been jumping hardly at all, which is probably dumb. I'm focusing instead on just building my strength up as much as I can at my current bw (don't want to bulk, even though I know I'd get stronger, because I honestly don't want to be any bigger than I am right now after eventually cutting). I figure I'll keep going on starting strength until I get to 3x5x315 in the squat, 5x370 in the dead lift, and then back way off on weight volume and start focusing on jumps, plyos and sprinting.

Still, I should probably be jumping a little bit now outside the depth jumps on non-DL days.

Well , i think that if your main goal is to improve jumping you should quite often practice jumping.
As for bulking etc , i was thinking 100% like you, but after 2,5 years of training i think i was wrong
Take a look at this , it's exactly about that theme: http://www.higher-faster-sports.com/relativestrengthmyth.html
I tried that on me , gained ~25lbs from August , bodyfat went from ~13% to ~19%.
Still , my running vert is the same ( and feels easier to get it ) and i PR'ed 1'' on standing vert, feeling easier again.
Currently trying to lean back to the middle ( -12 from now , +12 from August ) , i expect huge gains!
Just saying though , each one of us is different , you know better...


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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« on: December 18, 2009, 12:33:18 am »
Quote from: adarqui on December 17, 2009, 06:06:13 pm
ive never done line hops bare footed, i'd think they would really burn up?

not realy , actualy sometimes they burn more with shoes on ,if its not tied tight the foot slides inside the shoe.
btw i meant bilateral side-to-side ones, but ive done all combinations ( unilateral , bilateral , side-to-side, back-forth ) and they feel more or less the same.
also , barefoot =  no shoes , but i do wear socks.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« on: December 17, 2009, 05:02:24 am »
16 December 2009

Dynamic warmup, 5'

Plyos:
4x10sec barefoot line hops , getting 35 to 38.
2x5 18'' depth jumps : average 27'' , max 27,5''
2x5 standing vertical jumps : average 27'' , max 27,5''

Weights , unloading :
SQUATS: 3x5@187
ROMANIAN DEADLIFTS : 3x8@143lbs
CALF RAISES : 3x12@220lbs
SHOULDERS OHP behind head : 4x8@110lbs


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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« on: December 14, 2009, 04:42:15 pm »

14 December 2009

BENCH PRESS :
2x5@143lbs
1x4@154lbs
1x3@165lbs ( PR , previous was 5reps@154lbs )

WIDE GRIP LAT PULLDOWN:
1x6@165lbs
1x6@176lbs
1x5@187lbs
1x3@198lbs ( PR , previous was 6reps@187lbs )


BICEP CURLS : 3x8 , 35lbs dumbell in each hand

TRICEP PULLDOWNS ( ROPE ) : 3x12@77lbs


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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« on: December 13, 2009, 01:51:12 pm »

13 December 2009

Failed vertical jump testing & dunk session.

Reason 1 : 8 Degrees Celsium + wind + light rain.
Reason 2 : Weight with clothes = 199lbs.
Reason 3 : RVJ still fucked up , i feel totaly out of coordination, probably from excess bodyfat.

2x5 SVJ : getting steady 27'' , 0,5'' below PR.
2x5 RVJ : feeling like crap and getting 29''. Yup , just 2'' above SVJ , negative SVJ-RVJ gap PR!
No dunks attempted , '29 inches' and 'dunk' cant exist together...


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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« on: December 12, 2009, 06:25:16 am »

12 December 2009

Body measurements
After ~6weeks of bulking.

Weight ( in the morning ) : ~195lbs , ( +7lbs )
Waist ( navel level , loose) : 36,5'' , ( +0,7'' )
Thighs ( about 3/4 from knee to hip flexor , flexed) : 26,2'' , ( +0,8'' )
Hips ( middle of butt , loose ) : 41,3'' ( +0,3'' ) , dont know if this is good or bad as hips have a lot of muscle and fat...
Biceps ( flexed ) : 15,8 , ( +0,3'' )
Calves : 15,35'' ( +0,35'' )

Bodyfat estimation : ~19%

Those +/- are compared to start of bulking , wich was after unloading and undereating for 10 days!
Comparison with end of previous bulking cycle :

Weight : +3lbs
Waist : +0''
Thighs : +0,2''
Hips : -0,7''
Biceps : +0,05''
Calves : +0,15''


Green = positive changes
Red = negative changes

Good shit!  Time to lean down now , its gonna be very easy at this bodyfat level, should see awesome results if i can keep this strength and lean to my normal bodyfat levels ( ~15% ).


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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« on: December 10, 2009, 04:48:44 pm »

10 December 2009

SQUATS:
1x5@187
1x5@209
1x4@231
1X4@242

ROMANIAN DEADLIFTS :
3x8@165lbs

CALF RAISES :
1x12@264lbs
1x12@286lbs
1x12@297lbs

SHOULDERS OHP behind head :
2x6@110lbs
2x6@121lbs


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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« on: December 10, 2009, 04:23:04 am »
Thanks both , very useful advice & article...
Ya , now i understand what it is. It is that "lag" that i see when starting / stoping bulking with heavy carbs... like there are ~6-7lbs that magically appear when you start bulking and magically dissapear when you start leaning...

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« on: December 09, 2009, 03:18:28 am »
Quote from: adarqui on December 08, 2009, 08:26:06 pm

its just imperative to maintain strength levels on squat etc if you decide to lean up a bit.. so you could either keep going and building squat/adding muscle (a little bit of fat too)..

if you maintain strength levels, then going right back into strength phase becomes alot easier.. in this way it doesn't feel like yo-yo'ing..

when i'd cut fat/excess water, i'd make sure each week i could hit (or exceed) a single or double on squat that I could hit prior to the cut.. if i couldnt hit that single/double i'd up the calories a bit.


Yeah, thats exactly the current plan. I was planing to keep my current weights schedule ( strength oriented ) , just stop overeating and add in DJs , squat jumps , sprints and cardio. Ill still be overeating the squating day and undereat the others.
What about that 'excess water' thing? Ive heard it many times from people but never read something relevant. What is that state , why does it happen and what you have to do to avoid it?

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« on: December 08, 2009, 05:20:25 pm »
Quote from: adarqui on December 08, 2009, 04:13:40 pm
ah..

i've had my reach fluctuate.. from 96" to 95".. seems my lats get tight.. weirdness.

isn't your bodyweight significantly more now, than your 10'7 touch from months back?

i used to factor in my BW in claiming PR's.. for example I'd heavy PR's at 170 lb.. once i hit 10'11" at 172 i knew I would be flying at 160 lb.. cleaning up diet, transitioning into a more power / less fatigue block, and losing some of that bulk water retention from the higher volume/fatigue workouts.. worked good.

peace

LOL , my thoughts exactly.
Summer's 10'7'' was totaly rested , ~175lbs , ~14%bodyfat
Sunday's 10'7'' was 72hrs after squating to failure , ~200lbs , ~18%bf
And i always use that 'relative VJ' on my calcs and plans but now i must chase the absolute VJ value PR :D


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