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Lance, do you think then that the author understands the ME concept the same way that you do (or that it is generally understood)?


 I dont know for sure, he seems to hold consistent with the percentages he thinks are too high, which would disqualify one from using even the true repeated effort method in many cases.  From what I gather in that article, he is opting for the typical bodybuilding style intensities/ rep ranges for the athlete. 

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The author agrees that athletes need to be strong - good. Discussions seem to be a lot more uniform once you can agree on such a basic thing. I am sure most coaches also agree that an athlete needs to be able to display good form on every lift to train efficiently and avoid injuries.

If we can take those two things for granted, then there is an objective way to measure progress in strength once in a while. Just determine a repetition maximum (1 rm - 8 rm) and see if it has improved compared to before and by how much.

Having established an objective way to measure strength, how to get to an adequate level is up to the means and preferences of the coach and athlete. In general, it is always better to get away with less work to gain the same profit (so that resources can be spent elsewhere). So if an athlete lucks out in the genetic lottery and has incredible strength per default, that is the easiest thing to work with (case A). You don't need to lift, you are fucking strong in the first place. The next best thing is training and taking performance enhancers (case B), followed by just training (case C).

When we are concerned with how to optimize only the training (in case C), then the question becomes how to get strong the fastest OR how to get strong investing the least amount of resources.
The question is however NOT what works at all, since a lot of things work to some degree.

So I cannot disagree with what has been said in the article. I do by no means think that going up to heavy singles would be the only method to improve strength. In fact, I have been a big fan of 5s and 3s and occasionally even 8s for strength training from the very beginning. But I think the article lacks an answer to the question that truly interests us. How do we, as athletes, get our squats to 600 ASAP. Instead it merely reminds us that methods other than ME help strength as well - as if people were foreign to this idea...


  I think what hes doing is going after the newly popular "bulgarian" method of working up to a max single, then doing back off sets at 2's and 3's etc.  I could be wrong, but hes a james smith intern, and evo sport/schroeder guy, and those camps worship russian methodics like no other.  Russian method advocates dont particularly care for advocates of the bulgarian methods, and vice versa.

  The problem with attacking the max effort method is, it does not ONLY entail max singles, it also entails a rep max such as 2 ,3, 4 etc, as used VERY successfully with athletes by guys like joe defranco, etc.


  As far the injury woes, training with excessive VOLUME is imo WAYYYY more to blame than the rep range/intensity that you choose.  You can get hurt just as easy doing too much with 10rm or with shitty form as you can with singles, just look at the injury rates of powerlifting compared to other sports... it pales in comparison, and thats a true max single, on THREE lifts.

  I agree with several of his points and the guy is a good writer not claiming to coach or train anyone, but asserting that the "max effort method is KILLING our athletes" is pretty silly.... How many guys died last week at defrancos?


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Max Effort Upper Body Day - The max effort method is the best method for developing maximal strength. In my opinion, max effort work should be the "nuts and bolts" of any strength-training program. If you're weak, you're dead!

Remember that most athletic qualities (sprinting speed, jumping power, etc.) rely heavily on your foundation of maximal strength. This is because maximal strength builds the foundation for all other strength qualities such as speed-strength and strength-endurance.

joe defranco
 

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ADARQ & LanceSTS - Q&A / Re: Hyper-extended knee, rehab tips?
« on: June 09, 2012, 06:58:37 pm »
Hey Lance, just wanted to say thanks for the tips and rehab guide and stuff.  My knee seems to have healed.  I came back and played my league game today and posted a decent 10 pts, 6 ast, 5 rbs...

The 4 weeks of being injured and doing primarily dead lifts and leg curls, without squatting seems to have been a blessing in disguise.  I used  to be a little bit quad dominant, and now it could just be in my head, but I think I became more hip dominant now.  After my game, I was feeling sore in my glutes/hams which doesn't usually happen.  Also, even though I didn't play ball or do anything explosive for 4 weeks, I was as explosive as ever.  My ankles were collapsing though, I guess due to not having any stimulus for 4 weeks except minor calf raises.

Anyways, thanks.

You bet man, glad your knee is feeling better and youre noticing positive changes in your movement abilities.

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 Some of those points are good in that article.  He seems to be an evosport (schroeder) guy as I saw his ldiso articles as well, so dont be close minded to everything he says, but also take some things with a grain of salt.

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Quick question:  I know you said you are asian in another thread, so am I.  Do you feel like you are at a disadvantage athletically speaking in comparison to an african american with the exact same physique as you?

Hm... Bit of an odd question, I'm not sure where you're coming from with this. Asians versus blacks? Blacks probably are more genetically disposed towards having more fast-twitch muscle fibers and maybe higher testosterone, but this really shouldn't affect much since if you train hard enough, you can get to an elite level.

If you're talking about mindset, though, I don't really think about disadvantages. I mean, that's really only negative and contributes nothing. Can you change what you were born with? No, but you can be the best you can be. Every day I thank God for what He blessed me with: a healthy body and mind.

If you see somebody that happens to be quicker, stronger, and can jump higher... then that's on you, right? Gotta train harder, lol.


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ADARQ & LanceSTS - Q&A / Re: Hyper-extended knee, rehab tips?
« on: June 02, 2012, 10:38:23 pm »


  Start squatting light and slowly progress the weight.  There is no fool proof test to guarantee youre ready to squat though.

 Touch and go deadlifts are fine as long as your form is held good.

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they stealing your stuff Lance hahahah

hah, whats interesting is that their findings from across the world replicate what I have believed for years.  Implementing the 2leg concentric 1 leg eccentric calf raise work on the achilles tendon significantly, and thats exactly what Ive seen over and over.  Very little to no calf hypertrophy, with a significant rise in ankle stiffness and power, along with a great way to rehab ankle issues.

 I dont invent any of this stuff, its all been done way before me and my athletes.  What I do is keep the things that prove to work, and throw out the things that dont.

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ADARQ & LanceSTS - Q&A / Re: Hyper-extended knee, rehab tips?
« on: June 01, 2012, 12:44:13 am »

alex does great at really explaining how to initiate the movment, low abs= think  "knee raise into the pad"


<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4o699c2Zfs" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4o699c2Zfs</a>


korfist and wanna get fast

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMo74H8qdz8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMo74H8qdz8</a>


higher level progression

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KdHKQjEkr8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KdHKQjEkr8</a>


this is far from what you typically see done on a ghr, and FAR more effective for performance.  Drive hip extension from the GLUTES, not the low back.

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ADARQ & LanceSTS - Q&A / Re: Hyper-extended knee, rehab tips?
« on: June 01, 2012, 12:32:56 am »
I see.  Bottom line, get them fuckin strong either way.

 exactly.

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Thanks.

 Youre welcome.  

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Insanely strong lower legs



  Typical programming would always include a very high volume lower intensity single and double leg hops, skips, and bounds.  This helps a ton, along with the work in the weight room.  Single leg eccentric, double leg concentric calf raises done on the standing calf machine are the single fastest way to bring up lower leg strength on the planet imo.

 The overload of a controlled eccentric on one leg, with a weight you are raising with two, really does the trick here,  but special attention to form must  be maintained.  I start with a 2 second eccentric on a 15 rm of the 2leg CR, and progress from there. Dont worry about going super low here, from slightly  below parallel, to the very, VERY TOP should be the primary focus.  This really helps athletes with poor dorsi to plantar flexion a lot.

  


"The good news about non-insertional tendinitis is that there is a new treatment protocol that has excellent success, even with some of the worst injuries. Referred to as heavy-load eccentric exercises, this treatment protocol involves placing a weighted backpack on your back while standing on the edge of a stair with your heels hanging off the stair. Using both legs, you raise your heels as high as possible, and then remove the uninjured leg from the stair. The injured leg is then gradually lowered through a full range of motion. The uninjured leg is then placed back on the stairway, and both legs are again used to raise the heels as high as possible. Three sets of 15 repetitions are performed twice a day with the knees both straight and bent. In a 12-week study of 15 recreational runners with chronic Achilles non-insertional tendinosis, Swedish researchers had a 100-percent success rate at treating this difficult injury6. The 100-percent success rate was impressive given that these were older athletes (average age 45) who had had symptoms for almost two years and had failed with every prior treatment protocol, such as nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs, orthotics and physical therapy."

http://www.takethemagicstep.com/coaching/families/health-management/managing-achilles-tendon-injuries/



sounds familiar....

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ADARQ & LanceSTS - Q&A / Re: Hyper-extended knee, rehab tips?
« on: May 31, 2012, 11:18:00 pm »
I did 2x30 leg curls today with a moderate 60lbs, and I was able to get the 30 reps, but god damn, my hamstrings were HURTING for like 5 minutes after.  Like PAIN hurting.  Feels fine after but wth, never felt pain like that from lifting since my very first time ever touching a weight.

That pain is lactic acid, search lactic acid and tendon/ligament health if youre interested in the phenomena.  That painful  burning feeling is exactly what you want with these flushing sets.

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Also, a random question.  When sprinting, is the same knee flexion motion going on from what you do on a leg curl machine?  If so, I'm assuming a strong leg curl = faster sprints?

 There are different ideas and camps on that one, and if one thinks there is active knee flexion in the manner you suggested its minimal rom..  but one thing you can put your house on is that it damn sure wont hurt to get them stronger.  The hamstrings have to  be insanely strong either way.

 If  you  believe they are purely hip extensors then they have to  be extremely strong at the knee end isometrically, if you subscribe to the idea that there is some active knee flexion causing forward movement, they have to  be extremely strong as well. Same thing with the single leg takeoff.   See the reverse hyper example on my  blog and clarification of what happens when the hamstrings arent up to par.

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ADARQ & LanceSTS - Q&A / Re: Hyper-extended knee, rehab tips?
« on: May 31, 2012, 10:22:52 am »
 
  They turn it into a low  back  exercise  by  1.) Not pushing the hips to the rear on the eccentric and 2.) letting the  bar swing out away from them on the eccentric.  Those are the two main ones, of course some will find other ways to mess them up.

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ADARQ & LanceSTS - Q&A / Re: Hyper-extended knee, rehab tips?
« on: May 31, 2012, 02:16:50 am »
Why RDLs and not straight leg deadlifts?

sldl requires coaching to make sure its done correctly, rdl is rather simple in comparison.  Youre right though, sldl is a wonderful exercise done CORRECTLY, and likely even more specific to performance in this case.

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ADARQ & LanceSTS - Q&A / Re: Hyper-extended knee, rehab tips?
« on: May 31, 2012, 12:03:33 am »
Well... while walking around campus today, when I kind of took a small hop down a stair landing with the knee extended, I felt a little pain in my knee again.  It's significantly less severe than last week when it was still hurting, but still, it would be stupid to put this knee in a league game in as little as 3 days.  I'll shoot for next saturday for my return.

You say higher reps is better for healing the joint, but I also need to eventually do heavier weight for strength. 

Is 20 reps what you consider high reps?  Also I can just do both right?  3x8 heavier and then right after do 3x20 light...

Thanks.

2 Sets of 30 reps, 2-3 x a week,  progressing the weight from session to session works great for pre/rehab with pure knee flexion exercises.   You train your hamstrings as HIP EXTENSORS for strength for the majority of the time, and use the knee flexion exercises as I described, MOST of the time.

 Optimal scenario for you would  be to do something like ghr's, on a glute ham  bench, CORRECTLY, for 3-4 sets of 6-10 reps, followed  by high rep leg curls for 2 x 20-30 in one session.   In the next do rdls for 3-4 sets of 6-10 reps, followed  by another leg curling variation, preferably unilaterally for 2 x 20-30.

 Ghr's done correctly are a great exercise, done wrong theyre a waste of time and a good way to screw up recruitment patterns.

   

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