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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Chris' training journal
« on: January 19, 2016, 12:19:00 am »
haha i see
what do u do for core?
what do u do for core?
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Also it is a commercial gym, pretty often packed with people that noone does 'weird' stuff, so it will be a little difficult to do hip thrusts.
Why are you doing those? Primetimes are alternating leg... LRLRLRLR. Stiff legged single leg bounding continuously on the same leg (LLLLL or RRRRR) is very intense and you are not at that level yet. Master primetimes slow, then master them with more speed, until you master them with a running approach that's fairly fast THEN you can try continuously doing them on the same leg.
You are collapsing at the knee. Recording videos is always good, but with these exercises it's very easy to 90% tell by yourself with accuracy if you're benefiting from them -> by noticing if you are feeling the glutes do the work. If you are not feeling them in the glutes, it's fairly accurate to say you are collapsing at the knee and turning them into a knee extension exercise.
Most people don't even get to stiff legged LLLLL or RRRR bounds. Primetimes (LRLRLR) is sufficient for many to get their hamstrings ready and do proper sl bounds and then just progress the sl bounds to progress their sl jumps/sprints.
Wooooooow. I had no idea that I was supposed to do alternating legs. I did them like this last time too. No wonder my hamstring is fucked up. Shit.
I thought these weren't as high intensity because I was getting very little distance with them.
edit: looked over earlier posts and saw that you indeed wrote alternating legs..My bad. Should have read a little more carefully.
SL-SVJ's are ROUGH.
I see your point about doing glute-dominant stuff before quad-dominant.
I'll do glute activation before primetimes, but what do you think about doing glute activation before SLRVJ's? I know it will help me jump higher in the short term, but I'm not sure if it will carry over to regular SLRVJ's done without prior glute activation.
1. Still jumping with knee bent. If I focus on keeping my leg pretty straight and only using hip extension, I jump a lot lower.
2. Is there such a thing as "hip collapse"? I notice on the final step one side of my hips tends to drop. Is this supposed to happen, or are my hips supposed to be parallel to the ground?
3. I'm not sure how this is going to carry over to ultimate. The only time I wouldn't be able to do a DLRVJ when going up for a disc is out of a full sprint. I would need to use SLRVJ because of the shorter GCT it provides. But would I even be able to learn to do a moderately high SLRVJ out of a sprint??
Primetimes: 4x20 (L,R): focused on keeping leg as straight as possible
Your SL jumps:
1) Rest between jumps more as mentioned before. You don't need the recommended 45 seconds as I don't like it neither because you start thinking too much, don't stay warm, etc... but AT LEAST 25~30 seconds.
2) You running in for nothing. You're decelerating at the end pretty bad and that pretty much negates all the steps before it.
3) Whether it's weak hamstrings or weak quads or weak ankles or whatever, you are collapsing in the plant at the knee (most likely weak hams). IMO you will only be reinforcing negative movement patterns this way if you keep doing them. I'm sure you're not feeling the jumps in your glutes right?
4) IMO the solution lies in the same method as double leg jumps. Start with a shorter approach. Do a 3 step jump. At first, do not worry so much about getting as high as possible, because you need to develop the rhythm to accelerate on each step. Go slow- fast- faster. Keep practicing those 3 steps. That'll set up the penultimate step properly where you ae ACCELERATING into the plant unlike you are doing now.
SLOW- FAST - FASTER / rest ~30 seconds between jumps. With the amount you currently rest, you're jumping in a fatigued state and increasing the chances of collapsing at the knee.
Once you get those 3 steps down in a smooth fashion where you are accelerating with each step and don't have to think about it, you can start adding in steps. Just add 1 step at a time (basically t0dddays method), only adding steps if you are capable. Eventually you might be using a 5 step running approach, or a 10 step, but everyone has a different ideal amount. No one will eventually end up using 30 steps or anything like that lol so don't stress it if you aren't getting higher from adding steps once you get to 5+ steps.
I'll definitely rest more, I hadn't read your earlier post when I did these jumps. No I'm not really feeling the jumps in the glutes. Incidentally, I hit my previous PR by doing SL hip thrusts between SLRVJ sets, which probably means there's an activation problem there.
I'll focus on getting the 3-step approach down and strengthening the hams.
Yeah, pretty much a super basic homemade vertec in my backyard lol. I can adjust it from 20"-50"
- lower was cool: did single leg rdl's while holding my off-ankle and stretching my quad, heel to butt.. so did these at a variety of angles, and with toes elevated (not heels elevated) to stretch my calf more