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It's just that the stuff we do in the gym isn't always targeted to vert results. I'm happy to do my 3 nights a week gym sessions, but I won't get that 14 cm increase I need. I don't really have much of a say in what we do either.

My dilemma is this: Do I do my normal sessions and make gains hoping they'll be enough? Or do I go all out on the brink of overtraining to ensure I get the volume necessary for the +14...

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If you could pick between an seated calf raise or a standing calf raise to build strength in the calves, which would you choose?

I was reading a discussion on the seated calf raise and how that movement is more responsible for 'high calves' as opposed to standing calf raises producing those longer calf muscles. The discussion or rather argument then went on to discuss that having a high calf insertion lead to longer achilles and therefore more force... Don't know whether it's completely correct or not.

Does anyone know if there's any truth to seated calf raises being more beneficial to jumpers?

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That...

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Flexibility, or lack thereof can hinder one's vert if it's too lacking, but Ziani's crazy flexibility and stretching routine doesn't give him inches on his hops.  He probably has very powerful glutes, hamstrings, quads, and a perfect genetic makeup for single leg jumping with the perfect tendons, leg length, body structure leverages, etc...

Was all you needed to say.

Also, is it just me or does he appear to have quite 'prominent' achilles?

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You're not funny.

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His stint on the best damn sports show left little to the imagination.

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Good contribution mate, cheers.

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Kadour Ziani's Legs
« on: April 06, 2012, 06:05:43 am »


He doesn't look like the strongest bloke in the world, so how does he get up? Is it just plain ridiculous explosiveness? I bet it has something to do with his incredible flexibility. What is the adarq theory on Kadour?

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MUSiC anD SHeeT! / Re: What Are You Listening To Right Now?
« on: April 06, 2012, 04:57:12 am »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pa3IRRAFpAk" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pa3IRRAFpAk</a>

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I suppose you could say a 3x5 squat  :personal-record: of 95kg.  ;D

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Thanks for the help.

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What does your 5 hours of training involve?

2 Hours gym and 3 hours courtwork. Gym usually consists of well, let's see. This is what I did last night.

05/04/12
Practiced Cleans
Barbell Squat Jumps
Back Squat 85kg 1x5
Back Squat 90kg 1x5
Back Squat 95kg 3x5
DB Bench Press 35kg 1x5
Eccentric Chin Ups 5kg 1x5
DB Bench Press 35kg 1x5
Eccentric Chin Ups 5kg 1x5
DB Bench Press 35kg 1x5
Eccentric Chin Ups 5kg 1x5
DB Bench Press 35kg 1x5
Eccentric Chin Ups 5kg 1x5
DB Bench Press 35kg 1x5
Eccentric Chin Ups 5kg 1x5

That's just the lifting, there's more such as core, mobility, foam rolling etc.

Courtwork is mostly just volleyball related drills involving mostly passing and setting stuff. Some nights will involve hitting in which case there will be a considerable amount of jumping involved.

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Rest is super-important to improving your performance (obviously), but I'm not just talking about icing your knees in-between trainings or matches, I mean full days of rest where your physical activity is minimal/none while you ensure you're getting adequate protein/water/nutrients etc.

Agreed. Basically, I need these 14cm this year. Do or die. That's why the training volume is so high, I feel hopeless if I don't train almost everyday. My diet and sleep patterns will certainly help support such a volume but I've dedicated Sunday to absolutely no physical training. I'll probably just do some extra hydrotherapy/recovery sessions on that day.

When I tour, I consider that as rest also since I'm not in the gym. For instance, next week I'm going to Thailand for two weeks and won't be doing any training at all. Gives my CNS a chance to recover slightly.

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I guess it would be clearer if you had a day-by-day breakdown of your gym sessions and volleyball trainings.

I can send you an excel document with all my sessions on it with exercises, sets, reps, etc. That's only my personal sessions, not academy sessions, though.

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  Lastly, I'm guessing you care about your volleyball a lot. What are your ambitions for the sport? You've always seemed to be obsessed with gaining huge inches on your vert (as most of us Adarquians are), but I'm sure that keeping your spot in the academy is important too.

To play international volleyball, you really need at least a spike reach of 350cm. Given my standing reach of 257cm, if I want to reach that, I'll need a 93cm vertical or 37 inches. For me to leave my state based academy in Queensland and go to train in Canberra at the Institute of Sport (my ultimate goal at this stage), I'll need two things by the end of this year. 1 being that 350cm spike reach and two, improved courtwork skills. The courtwork skills come with training hard on the court which I'm sure I can achieve and it also involves playing well in game situations. The spike reach is more difficult and requires a lot more effort. Currently, I'm only getting 4 hours a week at the academy in the gym which, to me, isn't enough to get that extra 14cm on my current PR spike reach (336cm).

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If training for vert means that your performance on the court is suffering, then you need to think about what's more important.

Since my only real opportunity to improve on the court is during my courtwork sessions at the academy, there's no real way in which my vertical goals can hinder the skill development. Only, of course, if I was so tired I couldn't dig or set a volleyball. I'm confident that if I train hard in the gym everyday, my ability to increase my courtwork skills will still be there.

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It's your body so if you think you can do all this, go ahead. Just don't let yourself get burnt out.

It's going to be a hectic year that's for sure. I'm just hoping my diet/flexibility/sleep/rest patterns will support such a huge workload.

Thanks for your help, I appreciate it.

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In all seriousness , i do believe that this jumping form issue is overrated.
I believe that if someone jumps often , he will naturally jump with the best form for his structure/levers/strength/body composition. A few advices and main guidlines are ok but that's it.
What is REALLY benefitial is go out and jump often , that's not practicing jump form , it's just practicing jumping and its enough.
That "biomechanical insight to the jump" and overanalyzing how each step and part of the plant should be is plain bullshit.

Of course you shouldn't spend copious amounts of time re-analysing how you jump, but if it's a dodgy looking jump, it needs to be fixed. For example, when testing spike reach at the academy, an athlete touched 3.30m. When our strength coach said to change how he locked off with his left foot for to accelerate upwards (for the vertec), he was able to get to 3.33m. It's small stuff that CAN make a difference.



You talk a lot of shit for someone who squats 115.

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TL;DR  :D

But seriously though, you are falling into the same trap that you fell into with your Smolov attempt. Keep it simple IMO.

I think it's a lot more targeted towards my goals of increased VJ than Smolov. How can it be improved?

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In all seriousness , i do believe that this jumping form issue is overrated.
I believe that if someone jumps often , he will naturally jump with the best form for his structure/levers/strength/body composition. A few advices and main guidlines are ok but that's it.
What is REALLY benefitial is go out and jump often , that's not practicing jump form , it's just practicing jumping and its enough.
That "biomechanical insight to the jump" and overanalyzing how each step and part of the plant should be is plain bullshit.

Of course you shouldn't spend copious amounts of time re-analysing how you jump, but if it's a dodgy looking jump, it needs to be fixed. For example, when testing spike reach at the academy, an athlete touched 3.30m. When our strength coach said to change how he locked off with his left foot for to accelerate upwards (for the vertec), he was able to get to 3.33m. It's small stuff that CAN make a difference.

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You would be surprised how many people don't know how to jump. People who've played basketball for years think they know what they're doing when they have no biomechanical insight to the jump. Get over yourself.

This whole 'vertical jump technique' mania is the latest marketing discovery of the vertical jump training industry.
It works awesome for pussies and silly kids , why kill yourself under a squat rack? Who sais so, Verkoshansky and Baggett? They didn't know the super duper secretz for exploziv vertz gainz! Learn correct form and gain instant inchez , Adam Lickmyboner promises it does!!! This cool dude from his couch does too!!! Thats so cool! :D

inb4:

 Its a good idea for you to stop talking so much and read more, train for a few years.  Even complete a program or two.  Then come around and hash out all this knowledge you have.




That didn't contradict anything I said? You're trying to prove me wrong by changing the subject lol? Seriously though, the biggest thing I see with jumping athletes who might not be up to scratch as far as technique goes is that they spend too much time on the ground on the final step. People need to undertstand that it has to be a quick motion.

Also, the planting of feet - a lot of basketballers have a tendency to plant one foot then the other in a very non-explosive manner. The feet should almost touch the ground at the same time.

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Nutrition & Supplementation / Re: Body Fat Caliper Testing on Yourself
« on: April 05, 2012, 08:43:06 am »
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Is it hard to do the test on yourself?  

No, it's easy.


  You know this from your extensive experience right?  Youve tested so many athletes and had your results checked against other professionals in the field and the standards.  

  Its a good idea for you to stop talking so much and read more, train for a few years.  Even complete a program or two.  Then come around and hash out all this knowledge you have.



He asked if it's easy to test on yourself. I've tested it on myself before and in fact I do it regularly. So yes, from extensive experience. No I don't need to check whether professionals find testing themselves easy.

Just because you tested it on yourself easily, doesn't mean you're getting accurate results.....

Lance asked if you compared your results with other professionals to see if you're getting accurate results, not if professionals find it easy...

Basic English man...

Seriously, this is like the 21978th time you failed to comprehend another persons argument...  To top it all off, you're someone with very little knowledge in training/diet/etc... and lately you're going HAM on this forum as if you're Adarq's replacement..  Just stop please.  For everyone and especially new people on this forum's sakes, who might not know any better than to listen to you.

Your question was, is it hard to do on yourself. My answer was simple.

Jusstop.

I think you're being overly critical of everything. Just let it go.

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