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I thought that's what you were hinting at; many people mistakenly believe fruit only contains fructose and so is bad post workout because you need glucose. Many fruits contain glucose, in high amounts. Fruit contains a wide variety of sugars not limited to just fructose, sucrose or glucose. Sorbitol, mannitol, ribose, xylitol are just a few other sugars.

http://www.cabdirect.org/abstracts/19800383753.html;jsessionid=7239C87A49B3F1B5A6708F76C141720D

 Some fruits contain mostly fructose like apples, and you can easily tell that they fill up your stomach but you stay hungry craving the glucose. So again, if you follow your instincts you can figure out apples post workout is not good for refueling, but one will satiate you. I don't have research but since liver glycogen is depleted from stress there's nothing wrong with an apple or two or three depending on hunger post workout. Probably a great idea for joint health too. (aspirin is based off of acids found abundantly in fruit)

Watermelon is more what I'm thinking of and it has a ton of glucose. Dates, raisins, mangoes, ripe bananas, berries (tend to have more fructose but stil have glucose) will all satiate you. Ripe honeydew melons are fantastic. Fruit is also cooling to the body, and that's important in the summer.


I posted my pictures, I was fatter in that pic than I am now, but then I was drinking milk and fruit, and your insulin hypothesis did not hold up. We're talking at a kindergarten level really, carbs, fat, insulin, all brosciency shit. Once you look at the whole food you see theres a lot more to it than fats carbs proteins and insulin. Raw milk contains short chain fatty acids, and CLA which all burn fat, so raw milk isn't that fattening as long as you on't drink 1/2 gallon at a time, probably not good for your joints or health to take in that much anyway. The reason I recommend eating till you're full on whole foods is that they just don't store as fat as much as things like bread, chips, processed junk, and other empty calories. Starches I forgot to include in my list but brown rice is fine

MJ: I'm not in a caloric deficit ever I eat till i'm full. Not recommending fruitarianism here, but there's another myth that you can't get calories eating fruit.. that's because people's notions of eating fruit is like 1 banana,  or 1 orange, etc. After a workout I cut open a watermelon, and take a spoon, and drain 1/2 of it or more. Then I finish another 1/4 before bed, this is for like a 4 oclock workout. I probably got like 1000 cals form the watermelon.

http://caloriecount.about.com/calories-watermelon-i9326?size_grams=4518.0

If I eat half, that's like a good 6-700 right there.
3 dates could contain 120 cals, so you do the math. I would eat in the past 7-15 after workout with other fruit.

And dieting while squatting is a stupid idea for your HPA axis, for your thyroid, for your testosterone levels, and life in general. Just take short rest periods, get your HR up and you'll burn fat as long as you keep fat low PW get carbs in. I consistently overtrained the past 3 years (not this summer) due to not eating enough and trying to maintain a low weight, and heavy lifting/training. Not good for you for over like a day.

It's better to promote a discussion than use the gay emoticons. From my perspective, saying that fruit is bad after a workout really perplexes me, I've never heard that before and could similarly use stupid pictures to express myself but I'd like to understand where these beliefs come from. Sometimes opinions on matters like these are split into certain 'schools' of thought. So explain please

True, but I don't think I can half squat that much..well maybe I can I should try. Yeah they should have really tested vertical jump that would have been cool.

I guess the best extrapolation we can make is that it would probably go up since power increased the most in the 30JS group

What's your definition of dieting

Also, don't diet. Eat until you're full but eat things like fruit (especially after workout) raw milk, beef after wokrouts, eggs, more fruit, and vegetables. No bread or things that don't give you any energy and you'll notice you won't have to diet

It's not the same thing as running backwards but in relation to that article it's probably eccentric/isometric

SquatDr was just used as an example. Obvious troll is obvious.

You have a tiny mental capacity. I could have said athlete X weights 200 lbs and squats 600+. If things are obvious to you you are an i.d.i.o.t.

Quote from: Avishek on July 24, 2011, 01:57:41 pm

I don't understand why you would have to feel heavier, i think you would feel lighter, especially if CNS firing improves

If you suddenly lose mass, then yeah.

So what do you think about the Squat Dr. guy, 200 lbs squatting 600+, while still developing forces at a high rate (he sprinted as well and reported fast times, believing it or not is another thing). His body seriously thinks he is "heavy" when he is developing such forces? Of course there are countless other examples of people like this, such as many football players, sprinters (maurice greene, chambers (who has a huge vert, huge squat, and a lot of muscle mass).

If I move to Jupiter for 3 months, then come back here, I should feel lighter, not heavier despite gains in muscle mass. If I go on a spaceship flight to the moon, and lose bone/muscle mass, i will be lighter, but feel heavier.

If I jump around on a trampoline for a while, I feel heavier even though I perceived myself to be lighter while on the trampoline. After a set of 3 of squat jumps, I feel lighter, despite feeling heavier with a lot of weight on my back.

Which systems coordinate these 'feelings' is my real question.

I see the analogy of higher muscle mass compared to an engine, but it seems like you're comparing the CNS to that engine with is not analogous, it should be the heart you're talking about, and the CNS the driver of the car. If your strength, especially explosive strength keeps increasing, how can the muscle mass be considered a burden? Furthermore if we are performing explosive strength training the tendons are hypertrophying as well and this results in further strength gains so the discussino should not just include muscle.

Nice man, glad you liked it.


I tried the rapid deceleration today and I felt a burn in my quads, even though I think I decelerated more quiclky than i ever have before. I'm definitely gonna keep it up although I may need more recovery time.


On a serious note, I've always been a risky person attempting, or at least thinking about attempting dangerous things. Also I'd like evidence that this shit is actually bad for your knees, and bending them past say 90degrees is also bad. Also if you look more closely at my first drop jump, I shift my momentum forward very quickly so the load isn't on my knees as much as it seems since I push forward with hips.

Also the goal is not to crush the ball in the eccentric pistol squats. It is simply to train the nervous system to handle large loads, and overload the movement eccentrically. The ball is a form of cheating since you use it's momentum but you will still generate more tensino than you would in a box single legged squat since the weights you use are much greater. I don't even do these anymore though. It should be a box squat on one leg on a swiss ball.