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what i've experienced is that core training does help my vertical! i dont really do that type of training (planks etc) if i dont have to but there were times where our coach had us doing these exercises before practice. and they really helped my vertical especially coming of 1 foot.

think of your as a spring in the middle of your body. if you have powerful legs that put a lot of force into that spring as you trynna jump up.. your spring has to be hard as well because otherwise it would simply absorb the force like a buffer. that way you dont really get a benefit from the training you do for your legs. so get that strong and it will help your vertical especially off 1 foot and your ability to change directions quickly on the court!

What kinda core training did you do to help with your quickness and vertical?  Like strength training your abs?  Lower back?  Did you do any obliques?  Were they all weighted exercises?

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So whenever I go on a ME jumping session or just play lots of basketball one day, my quads feel kinda burned out and weak after (not too much though).  I usually never have anything like this on my glutes or hips.  Does this mean I'm a quad dominant jumper?

  If so, should I be training quad dominantly (squatting with knees shifting forward)??

Are there pros and cons of quad vs glute dominant jumping?

Thanks.

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yes

thanks for the amazingly well thought out detailed answer bro!

You asked a yes or no question and I answered it

and i thanked you for it

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yes

thanks for the amazingly well thought out detailed answer bro!

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Next month, I'm going to be competing in basketball leagues (school intramural and such)

I need my legs to be fresh and primed for these games.  I'm gonna have games on Tues and Thurs. 

Can I still continue achieving strength and vert gains from doing heavy squats/ BSS on Saturdays only?

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Nice.. I just started running/sprinting everyday.

to get 100% that is.

Should I do that?  I just go all out when I'm shooting around doing all these lay ups and max jumps and sprinting when I chase the ball.  Damn I don't want my ankle to be the reason I can't reach my jumping goals by March 18.  This sprain I had wasn't even that severe.  It probably falls into the mild category, but man it's the longest healing time I've ever gone through.  I can FEEL it in my ankle during my 1 legged jumps that the force going through my body is diminishing in my ankle...

I JUST got back into doing actualy jumps/max jumps this past Sunday.  Should I just keep it up and make my ankle adjust and this will rehab/heal it faster?  Should I even go out for jogs during my rest days to continue putting pressure on my ankle?

Is jogging okay to do on rest days between leg lifts?

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Also, I know heavy squats and deadlifts work your core...  Is this only the case if you are tensing/squeezing your abs/glutes during the exercises?

Or is your core getting worked either way?

ANDDD, when doing core work for improved athletic performance, are obliques getting worked out as well when doing weighted ab work?  Or stronger obliques even needed?

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The abs, glutes, forearms and masticatory muscles are all important in terms of affecting the rest of the bodies muscles ability to generate tension.

The abs are pretty much the "volume control knob" that you'd get with a stereo mixer - they just set a threshold of maximal applicable power in my opinion. If you can generate a lot of power with the legs but little power with the abs/core, you're not going to maximally utilize your leg power in my opinion.

I see i see... Thanks

So bottom line, just get those abs strong!

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Like I said, the irradiation effect is really a core generated effect.

Sorry but what is the irradiation effect?

It's the overall body potentiation effect that contracting the abs, glutes and forearm muscles gives you.

Ohhhh I see.  So it's like when people clench there fists in anger and get stronger and stuff throughout their body right?

So I take it that the effect of contracting your forearms and clenching your fist hard which strengthens your whole body happens with any athletic movement because your abs contract first thing in all those movements?

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Program Review / Re: Body Weight Programs
« on: March 08, 2011, 03:19:51 pm »
Let's say one reaches an upper body physique and strength level they are satisfied with.  Would doing push ups and chinups/pullups with BODYWEIGHT only like every other day be enough to maintain that muscle mass/physique and strength in the upper body?

A freaking useless question.

What physique level is the person satisfied with? Manny Pacquiao? Brad Pitt in Fight Club? Tommy Jeffers? Ronnie Coleman?

What physique level did the person start out with? Super skinny? Lean and muscular? Burly, i.e. chubby but with solid muscle underneath? Straight-up fat?


Lol my bad...

For example let's say 5'8" 140 lbs 15% BF/ Max bench is 1x BW/ Had some muscle but was more like skinny fat with a little belly fat covering the 6 pack/  Was typically seen as a generally skinny guy (not the extreme toothpicks you see here and there)

And then workout for like 15 months/ 145lbs 8% BF/ Max bench is 1.5X BW/ Lean & ripped/ Trained the whole 15 months with only food (no protein shakes)

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Program Review / Re: Body Weight Programs
« on: March 08, 2011, 02:39:37 pm »
Let's say one reaches an upper body physique and strength level they are satisfied with.  Would doing push ups and chinups/pullups with BODYWEIGHT only like every other day be enough to maintain that muscle mass/physique and strength in the upper body?

447
Okay so now that my ankle is finally getting a bit better, I wanna prime myself for some max effort jumps.  Does caffeine really help?  And if so, how many minutes/hours prior to my jump session should I drink it?

When is the best day to go for a jump session?  48 hours after my last leg/squat workout with complete rest in the between day?

How often should I limit caffeine to not make me become reliant and cause any problems?

Caffeine/Coffee just basically helps you perform at your athletic PEAK right?  Ensuring you peak performance in case of other factors such as food/lack of sleep/ etc...  It's not some kind of substance that actually makes your muscles stronger temporarily or anything like that right?  I know it sounds stupid but I just wanna clarify to myself that if I caffeine up and hit a PR on my jump session, I wanna know that that new PR is something my body is capable of without caffeine too.

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Soo my buddy was asking me why squats/lower body should be done if your main goal is upper body (bench pullups whatever), and I had a hard time articulating the benefits, any thoughts?

Well if you wanna improve your upper body.. you still have to squat..

Do the research if you want, but it's clear that heavy squatting releases the most growth hormones and testosterone levels in the body, which will help assist your upper body workouts to get you getting bigger and stronger faster.

On top of that, I'm assuming you play basketball cuz of ur name, well you prolly already know basketball athleticism is more lower body dominant than upper.

But yeah, heavy lower body compound exercises, esp squats, helps muscle growth in whole body.

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Like I said, the irradiation effect is really a core generated effect.

Sorry but what is the irradiation effect?

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Would building your core up to the point of passing this test be beneficial for jumping higher?.

All movement starts from the centre. The 'core' muscles contract before any movement of the arm and legs.


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Core is super important in what ever athletic ability you want to develop.

Is that quote by Bruce Lee true?  Like I respect him and everything but there is possibility he was using old outdated knowledge obviously since that was a long time ago.  Does strong abs/core actually provide stronger athletic movements, like give more power to legs and arms?  If so, doesn't that mean, strengthening your abs/core can add inches on your vert on its own?


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