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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: March 17, 2011, 04:16:14 am »
16 March 2011

-Some forearm stuff ( wrist curls 2x10@88 , reverse 2x10@44 )
-Pinch grip stuff.
-Lower body stretch.

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I wonder why does vag think 15% is "natural" for him at his age, build etc? Who said you need to be at 15%? You could probably improve on that.

Yes , by natural bodyfat i meant how i am built, like giving an estimation of where my body wants to be under 'normal circumstances'.
Some people are naturally lean&ripped , some others are not. I belong in the latter.
I don't need to be at 15% , i need to be as low as i can maintaining strength.
But imo it is important to have a realistic view on your body/abilities. A guy like me freaking out and orienting his training to get to 8% would make a big mistake.
Anyway , were getting way off topic...

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It depends on body-fat levels. Someoe with some bodyfat to spare need not worry about gaining weight, it's the toothpicks who starve endlessly who shouldn't be deathly afraid of it. Keep the body-fat low and things work out. Raptors approach is better for people under 8% body-fat and he's exactly right, each cycle of weight results in greater relative strength than would be there had the person stayed weight stable. Even the O lifters in light weight classes cycle their weight.  3-5 kilos up, 3 kilos down etc.

^^^
This!
I would also add that this 'critical' bodyfat percentage depends on the person.
I also use raptor's approach ( actually it's your approach Kelly , http://www.higher-faster-sports.com/relativestrengthmyth.html ).
My bodyfat is nowhere near 8% , but it never was too. For me ( given my age and built ) 15% is my 'normal' bodyfat.
What i do is cycle between ~185 and ~200lbs. At my first try beginning bodyfat was ~15% and final ~20%. Even like that cycles still worked , you can see them all well documented in my journals.
Now, after 3 or 4 cycles the last 1,5 years i am at ~197/15% , so this is an extra improvement , the cycles are not identical , every time i reach the bulk peak ( which is the same weight ) i am always a bit stronger and with a bit less bodyfat. In the same way , at the leaning peak i am always relatively stronger than last time.

Here's my  PRs log showing it happen:

LEAN:
June 2009 : DLRVJ PR : 33'' , getting consistently wrist(8'') to 10' rim on 2 different gyms , BW ~180.

BULK:
12 October 2009 : SVJ PR : 27'' , BW ~192
23 October 2009 : SVJ PR : 27,5'' , BW ~193

LEAN:
6 January 2010 : SVJ PR : 28,5'' , BW ~186
22 March 2010 : DLRVJ 32,5'' , no PR but i havent jumped above 32'' From June 2009 ( ! ) , BW ~187

BULK:
19 April 2010 : SQUAT PR : 3x264 , MSEM , ~1min rest between reps , BW ~192
27 April 2010 : DLRVJ 33'' , PR tie.
20 May 2010 : MSEM SQUAT PR : 2x1x275 , BW ~194.
6 June 2010 : DLRVJ 33'' , PR tie.
12 June 2010 : DLRVJ PR , 33,5''
15 June 2010 : SQUAT PR : 4x275 , BW ~198.
20 June 2010 : DLRVJ PR , 34''

LEAN:
25 June 2010 : SQUAT PR : 3x297 , BW ~196.
26 July 2010  : SVJ PR : 29'' , DLRVJ PR : 34,5'' , BW ~190

BULK:
Happening now , SVJ ~29, RVJ ~33,5 , BW ~197

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Agree with everyone , awesome post!  :highfive:

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: March 15, 2011, 04:15:18 pm »
15 March 2011

Weight@session : ~197
Injuries/aches: none
Soreness : none

Upper Body Workout.

BENCH PRESS:
1x6@125.5 ( +4.5 lbs )
1x6@132 ( +6.5 lbs )
1x6@136.5 ( +6.5 lbs )
1x6@143 ( +9 lbs )
-Added more than i planed coz i was feeling strong.

SEATED ROWS
1x8@143 ( +11 lbs )
1x8@154 ( +11 lbs )
1x8@165 ( +11 lbs )
1x8@165
-Good gains here too.

STANDING MILITARY PRESS:
1x8@66
1x8@77
1x8@77
1x8@88
-Same weight with OHP behind head last week but felt much harder.

CHINUPS:
4x6@BW , ~4 clean in each set.
-Less help in the assisted ones.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: March 14, 2011, 07:20:57 pm »

THE RATIO TECHNIQUE BIG EXPERIMENT:






GREEN = done
BLUE = current
RED = pending


14 March 2011

PHASE 3 - Cycle 2 - Stim workout

Bodyweight@session : ~196
Injuries/aches : shins & feet balls hurting a bit. Concrete + waffles + ME jumping = NO.
Soreness : sore abs and trapezius , much worse yesterday, dunking killed!

POWER CLEANS:
3x5@99

MSEM HALF SQUATS ( rest between reps ~30 secs , rest between sets ~3 mins ):
3x1@231
3x1@253
3x1@275

MSEM REVERSE LUNGES ( rest between reps ~30 secs , rest between sets ~3 mins ):
3x1@165
3x1@187

CALVE RAISES:
Skipped to help shins recover

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: March 14, 2011, 04:47:34 pm »

Agreed , runups/FA/bounce look terrible.
Pasting what i said to raptor:

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LOL, way to copy/paste from your pics and vids thread in response to Raptor's identical comment.  :-*

 ;)

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: March 14, 2011, 04:42:35 pm »
your court is awesome.

also, your run-ups look even slower than mine, no offense. your last step is shorter than the ones before it! what happens when you try to take a bigger last step and/or get lower on the plant?

Agreed , runups/FA/bounce look terrible.
Pasting what i said to raptor:

1) it was the first dunking session after 3 months
2) i am not bouncy anyway
3) i haven't done any reactive drills lately
4) im an old fart, those joints are rusty!  ;D

FA drills + more often sessions ( movement efficiency ) and it will all fall in place , no rush...

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: March 12, 2011, 10:00:49 am »
Thanks zg?n! 34 to 35 was 1,5 year ago , this time it was ~33,5''. Still 2.5'' to 3' , gotta go get them!

12 March 2011

Jumps/dunks session.

Weight@session : ~194.5 ( AM )
Injuries/aches : none
Soreness : none

Was wearing waffles , reach is 7'10'' in those , bad choice but i dont jump so good in frees and im keeping KobeV's for indoor.

VJ testing ( 9'10'' ):
SVJ : ~5'' above rim - ~10'3'' touch - ~29''
RVJ : ~9'' above rim - ~10'7'' touch - ~33''

Dunks:
Began with 4/4 good dunks on 9'8''.
Switched to 9'10'' but couldnt palm the ball anymore, missed everything ( 3 sets of 4 attempts ).
Back at 9'8'' , kinda lost focus , kept attempting dropstep 2-handed dunks , 2 sets of 4 attempts, missed them all.

Overall good session , haven't had a jumps/dunks session for ~3 months.

9'8'' made dunk:


9'10'' 2-steps-rvj:


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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: March 11, 2011, 05:33:07 am »
Interesting , log from last time i played in this court :


1 December 2009

Bball game today.
Felt damn explosive, the wooden floor was also excelent at today's court, awesome traction and bounce.
Did only 2 jumps , 1 dropstep for height and 1 dunk attempt.
I got easy 7'' above rim on the dropstep ( thats 32'' )
As for the dunk i think i got 9 to 10 inches above. ( thats 34 to 35 ). It was an alley , got all my hand ( 8'' ) above rim , ball went in through the backboard going downwards, thats needs at least  9'' to happen. The guy that gave me the alley said it was 10''.
It was and felt like a PR but im not counting it if its not on film.
Im filming VJ testing this Thursday, hopefully PRing too :D


DEJA VU !!!

BTW , on the following dunk session mentioned i barely got 31'', let's see, hope deja vu doesn't continue...

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: March 11, 2011, 03:21:09 am »
That sounds really great man, great job :D :ibjumping:

How is your jumping in terms of compressing into the ground/GCT/reactivity lately?

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:wowthatwasnutswtf: :wowthatwasnutswtf: :wowthatwasnutswtf: :wowthatwasnutswtf: :wowthatwasnutswtf: :wowthatwasnutswtf: :wowthatwasnutswtf: :wowthatwasnutswtf: :wowthatwasnutswtf: :wowthatwasnutswtf: :wowthatwasnutswtf:

sick dude!

great floors ftw also.. a really good grippy indoor floor, nice hardwood, is just awesome.

Thanks all!
Raptor i have no idea how my jumping is , haven't done a ME jump session for a long time so can't really tell.
Hopefully tomorrow i will have a jump/dunks session so we will see where i really am!
I always jump damn high on this court , the wood has awesome grip and bounce, its like i gain 1 or 2 inches there.
Still , indoor PR is PR :D

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Thanks Lance & LBSS, i agree with both.
I asked because I experimented a little with them and it felt much more natural & power oriented to stay in a half/quarter depth. Going ATG ruins the triple extension. It also significantly reduces the amount of weight one could use.
Great exercise , gonna fit it in my schedules for sure!

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: March 10, 2011, 01:23:45 pm »
10 March 2010

Bball game
Good endurance again , very happy to be in good shape at current weight ( ~197.5 after game ).
We were playing at this court that has an awesome floor , i always get great jumps there. Also wearing KobeV's instead of wore out hyperdunks. The result was sick: i did only 2 jumps , got 7,5'' above rim off 1 step , 8,5'' above rim with 2 steps. Also got a 1-hand rim hang in-game , going up for a rebound , WTF , stupid jumping today.
Teammates were saying that both rims looked like 10'1'' , but let's just say they were 10':
That is 10'8.5'' touch , 33,5'' RVJ, season best and also all time PR in 10' indoor court ,  :personal-record: ,  :ibjumping: ,  :wowthatwasnutswtf:

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Lance , do you recommend this depth for the squat after catching , something higher ( like half or quarter squat ) or whatever comes/feels natural?

edit : exrx.net won't allow the gif embeding so i'll use a pic:

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