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Stubborn fat for women isn't abdominal .. it's thighs and hips.. but yeah. women who train will often have a sixpac way before they have lean butt/thighs/hips. src: instagrams

Nobody is objecting to that distribution.

Actually Dreyth was saying abdominal fat is troublesome for women but their body will burn that off preferentially so there's no point even trying to spot reduce because fat will come off there easily/immediately. Blood flow is good there compared to hips/thighs etc. But women shudnt even store fat there in the first place.. it takes a lot of bad eating, lack of activity and drinking alcohol to accumulate fat there :/

Anecdotally .. i found if i start playing bball regularly after a layoff, my body does use stomach bodyfat preferentially even if i'm not consciously dieting. just my experience, not sure why that happens.

What I meant is, I like big butts.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: April 21, 2016, 03:07:57 am »
Hm... yeah I guess the goblet squats can help make the glutes fire better in the high bar squat... something to think about.

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We can go even further into our over-analyzing craziness:

Say we take a 300 lbs guy that squats 600 lbs and he also is jumping.

Say somehow we're making him to be 200 lbs and squatting 400 lbs over night. Let's also assume he loses the same percentage of muscle from all places, so his mechanics/bodyweight distribution are not modified.

How would his structural factors play in at that moment? Now we're ignoring completely the muscular and power aspects, and we're thinking about his tendons etc, his reactivity? How much better would he move and jump and respond to ground contacts, having tendons that are accustomed to a very heavy bodyweight and being conditioned in that way?

I bet he would become extremely reactive and his ground contact times would be lower, despite having the same power to bodyweight ratio.

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Stubborn fat for women isn't abdominal .. it's thighs and hips.. but yeah. women who train will often have a sixpac way before they have lean butt/thighs/hips. src: instagrams

Nobody is objecting to that distribution.

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Absolutely. For the standing vertical jump, things are easier, meaning, the 300 lbs guy might have an easier time being at the same level as the 150 lbs guy. More about voluntary power than anything else. Maybe the speed of the movement/reversal of the jump would differ due to the added momentum of the extra weight, but even then, mathematically, they should pretty much be the same. I don't see why they would be different. Maybe all the extra things we've talked about above would still apply (there's still some G-forces occuring during the reversal) but the percentage that these factors are important are far less in the case of the standing vertical jump.

Also, and this might be interesting, maybe there's a certain threshold of "mass" certain muscles have.

Maybe if you take one guy at 150 lbs that squats 300 lbs, and get him to be 300 lbs and squat 600 lbs, his muscular distribution changes and his mechanics change. Maybe when he was 150 lbs and squatted 300, his quads weighed 30 lbs and his glutes weighed 50 lbs. Now, at 300 lbs, his quads weigh 80 lbs and his glutes weigh 100 lbs. Or it might be that his quads weigh 50 lbs and his glutes weigh 150 lbs. Who knows, right? They grew differently, and promote different mechanics. They have different strength ratios now, because the shape, the amount of muscle fibers, motor neurons etc in each muscle is different and has a different potential for growth.

So it's not that easy. But assuming everything is equal, which is not, in real life, then I don't see any mathematical undertaking that would make the 150/300 guy not jump exactly as high as the 300/600 guy.

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I think we need to go to the extremes here to make a point. Ask it another way:

Athlete A is 300 lbs in BW, squats 600
Athlete B is 150 lbs in BW, squats 300

Both have the same ratio, structure, CNS etc. Who jumps higher? I would say the 150 lbs one, because it takes less effort to change direction at that weight and there are other things like, again, the absolute force that you can transmit through connective tissues that is important too. These things are being monitored by the CNS all the time for safety reasons (mechanoreceptors, proprioceptors etc).

So imagine the 150 lbs guy going for a high speed jump with a let's say 8G plant.

That's 8Gx150 lbs = a 1200 lbs force in the amortization phase that is transmitted through the skeleton.

Athlete B tries the same thing, at the same speed, and gets himself the same 8G plant. His skeleton, connective tissues, tendons etc need to deal with 8Gx300 lbs = a 2400 lbs force in the amortization phase.

So Athlete's B connective tissues need to sustain a tremendous amount of pressure and tension without the CNS raising red flags for safety reasons that they might break, regardless of the fact that they both squat the same 2x and muscularily produce the same amount of force/eccentric force etc.

It's like taking a tractor and trying to make it a race car. Sure, you might design an engine capable of revving and pulling the tractor at a racecar pace, but the joints of the car themselves, the materials themselves, the wheels, the articulations, the suspensions etc would just fail at those extreme tensions and forces being applied at that weight.

And if the tractor has a very good computer that senses all that, the computer will shut down the power to prevent the tractor from breaking down.

In my opinion, that's what's going on with the bodyweight in a human when jumping, that's how it acts.

And it's even trickier than that - we are looking at squatting here. But usually we increase our squat and bodyweight (say we keep the same ratio) but the calves don't get that much stronger. And then the calves, which don't grow as fast/strong, remain behind with the squat going up. That changes the mechanics/overloading of the jump, making the quads do the breaking more, which makes you more quad-bound, which makes you increase the knee bend more, deactivates the hamstrings more, the angles are different and on and on and on.

So it's more complicated than simple numbers here.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: April 20, 2016, 12:23:03 pm »
I have personally found out that how much the arms are straight (or the elbow bent) matters quite a bit in jumps, of any kind. I usually like to arm swing with arms almost straight, off two legs, and that overwhelms my plant and I can't recover from that. The momentum of the arms being kept straight puts so much force into my legs that they collapse.

If I keep my elbows bent, or twist my arms to the side (like simulating an airplane) with arms straight, it's easier to recover and jump, as I plant. But I guess that's just because I'm too weak to deal with the added power straight arm swings put into my legs.

Also, a jump with the arms a little bent is quicker - to pendulate the arms around your body as they are straight takes quite some time and increases the ground contact time, from what I have personally seen in me and other people I trained with.

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Bios / Re: Animals
« on: April 20, 2016, 12:15:28 pm »
Haha yeah they seem smart... they're like, I don't know, a combination of a fox and a mouse or something?

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No, but it's an old thread and I wondered if anybody changed opinions since then or has anything to add/retract.

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bump

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: funny / horrible training videos
« on: April 20, 2016, 08:35:13 am »
Looks to me like they promote heel strike on their runs.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: April 20, 2016, 07:30:08 am »
I think you are. For one, you look less downwards, and your back seems to be straighter. The thing that bothers me is that you don't finish the extension in the air, you don't "pull" yourself in the air completely, or extend, like a cat, extend that spine and hips, you just "jerk" it a bit and that's it.

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So he works for the NSA? Thanks.

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I love the help you get from the kid at 0:16 in the video.

Dem mirror neurons

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Chile? Chile women = the shit.

But what is your job? Unless is secret or something.

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