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Also , http://www.higher-faster-sports.com/relativestrengthmyth.html

Once again, thanks for ur help & wish u continued success towards ur goals.

np man , thanks too!

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20 July 2011

Bodyweight@session : ~188.5
Injuries/aches : none
Soreness : quads 1/5 , calves 2/5 , trapezius 3/5 ( duh! )

Went to the park and shot around for 45 mins to get a good sweat.
Got a clean powerfull SLRVJ 9'8'' dunk, last time i did that was 2 years ago! Also got a very hard lefty and a pump-lefty on that rim. Touching rim on 9'10'' layups ( SL ).
Threw in a jumping warmup and then a few jumps to end the session ( no sets , just ~10 jumps with 30-45 seconds rest ):
Still very springy and reactive , SVJ : 28'' , dropstep 31'' , 1-step 32'' , DLRVJs 32,5'' , SLRVJs 28''
Awesome...

You're wasting away

Maybe, i'm trying to avoid it though.
I am trying to preserve as much strength and muscle during that ( planned ) weight loss. Have been at the 195+ area for too long , want to see how my jumping will be effected below 190. I will push a bit more , hoping to get a good session ( fully recovered and stimed ) at ~185 before leaving for holidays.
Last night was awesome feeling , i could feel the bounce, loading and releasing like a spring.
It looks like it's going good , weight lowers slowly , waist and bodyfat measurements go down, strength seems good too , my pistol squats ( box and deep ones ) are stronger than ever.

Oh wait , were you just teasing? 

Quote from: JelloPuddinPup on July 19, 2011, 11:27:40 pm

Oh, and MJ can still do this.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaWCn05LD6g" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaWCn05LD6g</a>

Not bad for being old huh?

Watch your mouth, sonny.    What's old have to do w/dunking a bball?  I'm exactly his age and my vert has gone up 5in in the last 6 months.  It helps to be over 6 1/2 feet tall w/well over 8 ft reach too.  Just sayin.  Btw he's my fav athlete ever.

Reach is ~8'10'' actually , and that could be double hand. He needs 14'' of vert to touch rim so ( given his ball palming ability ) he can dunk easy with a ~20'' jump. He will be able to dunk forever...

MJ = GOAT , this will also be true forever!

Agreed about his strength. I still think he could jump better technically, not sure how MUCH better but still, he's not at an optimal level even for his structure in my opinion.

word , i don't disagree on that.

Multiresponse plyos and practicing jumping in an accelerative approach for a while (say 1 month) with squat at maintenance (or even working to improve on it) and then focusing on strength again is the way to go IMO.

I disagree about maintenance. He should keep pushing max strength up because it is lacking.
MR plyos and one more ME jumping session per week would be my recommendation.

We are trying to say that each individual has his own limitations , one can only improve so much his max strength , relative strength , jumping efficiency , RFD , FA , GCT etc.
Kelly Bagget says that you will be happy with your vert the day that you can squat 2xbw , at 10% bodyfat , being able to do 20 knee height lateral jumps in 10 seconds.
I agree 1000% , but not everyone is built to reach those abilities.
Someone might be able to increase his squat a lot but not lose fat. Should he , e.g. , freak out about his 15% bodyfat and try to get it to 10% ? or let it be and get his squat from 2*BW to 2.5*BW? Best choice is the latter.
Knowing your weaknesses and trying to improve them is important , but it is more important to see your strong points and keep pushing those that keep improving.
Steven miller's dropstep is the same with his SVJ. That is weird , one would say he is lacking plyometric ability. Should he change his training plan to improve that? In my humble opinion NO WAY , he should keep doing what he does , it works , his squat goes up , his oly lifts go up , his SVJ and dropstep go up , no need to change something. "you don't change a team that is winning".
As for scooby , if his jumping was bad for his strength, then we could consider things differently. But now it's fairly normal , low 300's squat , low 30's jump , nothing too weird. He just needs to push his strength up ( which he can as we know from his powerlifting past ).
Just my 2 cents...

He surely can improve his jumping form, BUT:

BODYWEIGHT = ~190
MAX SQUAT LATELY = ~300

300/190 = ~1,57 ,  TOO LOW , END OF STORY!!!