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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« on: December 18, 2014, 05:15:59 am »
Good search engine on t0ddday method! and found a post by LBSS

Copy and pasted for the record.

 the t0ddday method is the place to start. a step-by-step guide:

1. do a standing jump.
2. walk back and do a one-step jump. if it's higher than your SVJ, then proceed to 3. if not, continue doing one-step jumps, messing with your approach, trying different amounts of knee bend, different distances, etc., until one-step is higher than SVJ.
3. walk back a little farther and do a two-step jump. if this is higher than your one-step, proceed to 4. if not, repeat the second part of 2.
4. walk back a little farther and do a three-step jump. proceed as above.
5. etc., until the extra step no longer gets you any higher.

you are not allowed to add a step until that step consistently gives you more height over previous steps. this isn't that specific to basketball, because it grooves a very specific pattern. but if you're just trying to dunk anything at all under perfect circumstances (join the club!), then it's a good method.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« on: December 18, 2014, 05:07:51 am »
Thanks LBSS and Chris,
about toddday method, i try to look into his journal and see alot of heavy lifting numbers.

can some one tell me more on toddday  method?

(i recall it is being practicing jump with less step? like only 2 step with no runup.. or something like that)

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« on: December 16, 2014, 09:30:20 pm »
Thanks LBSS  and ChrisM

I thought i had CUT down on Choppy Steps by alot already...  (absolutely not like the choppy steps appear in football/soccer penalty shot)

as of the Wasted run up speed, I do agree...
Jack was telling me to make my 2nd last step longer which can help with maintain speed, (which is my focus on that day )

however it seems like the speed still suffer....

the mini hop into the 2 step jump is consider ok? no need to cut away the minihop?  I suppose the mini hop is result from me trying to make the step longer)

If the LEFT foot ground contact time is too long, And i have to speed it up, this mean that i have to Swing my Right LEG (my final step) fwd FASTER into the very end of lift off.

once again, thanks for checking up on my journal.
I will look at the link LBSS suggested now.




UPDATE:
Just reviewed some 2 leg jumper video.  FOUND A BIG FAULT in my 2 legged jump.  REASON for my 1st LEFT LEG staying on the ground so long is because my RIGHT LEG Take  long to plant.

After checking out the guy again and again in the last part of the clips.  Even when he do the 12 step, the 2nd step is SO fast and Almost hit the floor at the same time.
His first loading leg with knee at 90 degree angle and the 2nd leg is more extended as suggested by raptor before.
I will work on this...
I MUST WORK ON THIS.



One of my net dunker friend from taiwan also suggest similar problem as LBSS and ChrisM attached:
重心還是壓不夠低 再蹲低一點  (center of gravity not low enough)
起跳前一瞬間兩腳之間的距離可以抓少一點 與肩同寬 ( 2 leg stance is too far apart)
你起跳的時候 兩腳還是比較開一點
可以參考一下 Jus Fly的起跳方式 (try to keep it closer like Justfly)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rygeqTV1Q8
他腳就收的很近反而可以把力量集中助,跑速度很快   (this way the power is more focused, and running speed increased also)

reviewed justfly video, and seems like he is just tall to begin with, his run up is slow, and he does not use 1 2 step lift off, he just hop into a 2 leg Jump narrow stance.
Not sure.... if i can benefit with such narrow double leg at once stance.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« on: December 15, 2014, 11:05:54 pm »
141215 Sport Specific Day
http://youtu.be/SKNWP1iJefQ
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKNWP1iJefQ" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKNWP1iJefQ</a>

Fixing the run up again... keeping speed up. making the each step big, Focus in the Last step making it long before lift off (to avoid slowing down)

but it seems like my over all speed is still very slow,  Also.. i am not sure if the mini hop at the end is BAD...or should I leave it as is.

I also attached some 5'11" 2 foot dunker.. to compare to steps/ speed at the end

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« on: December 11, 2014, 12:00:17 am »
Jack Woodrup Custom Program Week 1 Day 2


<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMtENX7_5AA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMtENX7_5AA</a>
http://youtu.be/BMtENX7_5AA

- Paused Squat  135lbs
- Reactive Squat 145 lbs
- Reactive Split Squat (back foot no chair to elevate) 75lbs
- Squat Jump with bar (instead of Box jump body weight) 45lbs
- Single Leg paused Jump (instead of Single Box jump)  Body Weight

Extra
- Hang Clean @ 135 x 4
- Bare foot Jog back home for 5 min. on balls of feet.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« on: December 09, 2014, 11:57:59 pm »
Jack Woodrup Custom Program Week 1 Day 1

I guess this is more or less the same as the original VJM with personal help from Jack himself.

Video Re-Cap:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuLqim_tgqA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuLqim_tgqA</a>
http://youtu.be/ZuLqim_tgqA

- Depth Jump
- Seated Jump (Suppose to do squat jump lol)
- Power Skipping
- Frog Jump
- Single Leg Seated Jump

The side of my abs feel sore on the 2nd day after this.   Weird, sign of weakest link?

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I asked if i should increace my squat from 2.11 bw to 2.5 or even 3... For jumping higher.

And the reply i got is as follow.  What do u guys think?
By Shawn Myszka.
Hey man Shawn emailed this to me for you.

"Though it would definitely depend on personal movement characteristics and attributes, in most cases and in my experiences, anything over 2x BW in the squat is plenty and the increase in additional strength (in the exercise) likely would not be advantageous and/or lead to any increase in jumping performance. Instead (again without having specific data or awareness of your particular situation), I would say you would be best served to focus on ways to apply the strength that you already have in the most functionally-specific fashion to the movement patterns found within jumping. Namely, think of rate of force absorption (developing force more quickly on the eccentric/countermovement/plant phases of movement) or rate of force development (how quickly you can exert the force on the upward/takeoff type actions). These areas are usually where jumpers go wrong. Hope that helps.”

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« on: December 03, 2014, 12:39:12 am »
A frd of mine suggested me to follow russian squat routine and aim for 3xbw squat.  He suggested it caz he thibk my body structure cant benefit much from plyometric...

So I asked similar question to Boinvert coach and got a reply from Shawn Myszka.

Hey man Shawn emailed this to me for you.

"Though it would definitely depend on personal movement characteristics and attributes, in most cases and in my experiences, anything over 2x BW in the squat is plenty and the increase in additional strength (in the exercise) likely would not be advantageous and/or lead to any increase in jumping performance. Instead (again without having specific data or awareness of your particular situation), I would say you would be best served to focus on ways to apply the strength that you already have in the most functionally-specific fashion to the movement patterns found within jumping. Namely, think of rate of force absorption (developing force more quickly on the eccentric/countermovement/plant phases of movement) or rate of force development (how quickly you can exert the force on the upward/takeoff type actions). These areas are usually where jumpers go wrong. Hope that helps.”



On the other hand, i joined the personap coach package with Jack Woodrup.
The training he have for me will most likely be my final attempt to dunk before i retire.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« on: December 02, 2014, 01:12:57 am »
what's the point of a workout like that? like, what's the point of doing ten free throws? if it's just conditioning and light skill work i guess it's fine but the volume seems awfully low. the only thing with appropriate-seeming volume are the depth jumps, but they make no sense in a conditioning workout.

The 10 freee throw I did in between is aiming to rest my leg.. either from the layup running drill or the depth jump thing.

I only have like 1 hr lunch, with traveling, I have about 45min.. from picking up the ball to putting it back in the bag.

One thing I notice is my so call catch and drive layup pretty much NEVER happen in game, same goes for the Low post move....I copy and practice what i learn from youtube and better basketball video... but during in game... with a defender, I never able to do what I train for.

The most I can do is catch and shoot from foul line which usually result in a miss.

I had read about doing drill in GAME speed or Faster than game speed... but doing so... I get tired REAL fast.... i am too old for this... dam it..

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« on: November 26, 2014, 03:36:33 am »
The heel pain.. comes and go.. after extensive massage on the foot, it went away.
and when i got sicks.. it never came back...

I played ball like twice while i was sick..
mainly 3on3 never serious.  Never went to the gym.

and the heel pain.. will suddenly come back a day or 2 after my 3on3 basketball.. but it disappear real fast after like 1 or 2 step of walking.

I am starting to get use to and live with it for now.

Today lunch... I try to resume Training.

141126 Resumed Training From Flu

Base line to foul line catch and drive layup (Outside pivot)
- 10 on each side

Depth Jump with Arm swing down
- 1x5

Foul Shot
- 5 shot minimum last 2 in a row shot going in

Run-up Jump attempt
- 1x5

Base line to foul line catch and drive layup (Inside pivot)
- 10 on each side

Depth Jump with Arm swing down
- 1x5

Foul Shot
- 5 shot minimum last 2 in a row shot going in

Run-up Jump attempt
- 1x5

Shoot around until lunch time is over.

Vert attempt with 1.5" above rim  max...  vert decreased, jump approach no improvement.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« on: November 25, 2014, 09:13:55 pm »
141126 Finally recovered from my cold fully

Guess I am on my own as coach raptor is going though some serious issue on his own and won't be able to provide much guidance no more.
got to plan how to go from here, in less than 24 hrs, I will turn 34...

and I am not any where close to... putting it in above the rim....

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« on: November 18, 2014, 01:44:49 am »
Had been sick for the 2nd week..

had not seen doctor.. hoping i can recover from this cold myself...

not sleeping early sure make thing worse...

fuxk..

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« on: November 11, 2014, 10:27:28 pm »
141112  Caught a Cold.... feeling very sick

Heel pain still exist, but is very minor. Appear when first wake up or after a long sit and usually disappear after like 2 steps...
So I consider I am go to go,  but i am waking up at 4 am every night in a consistent manner.  Not sure if it is due to stress or watever.

And i am feeling so sick right now, Dry itchy eyes and stuffy nose....
Dam how can i be so weak within with so much muscle on the outside.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« on: November 11, 2014, 04:02:51 am »
Recap for Rap!

latest Update or modification is highlighted in Blue

Previous Stat:

Strength:

Squat 375/177 = 2.11 squat
355/177 = 2.00 deadlift  (updated PR at 365)
395/177 = 2.23 hip thrust

Jumps:
Broad jump: 2.69 m
4 consecutive 2-leg bounds: 11.63 m


Let's look at the issues again:

1) Hamstring weakness (overall);
2) Try to improve right leg stiffness (obviously, we're going to train both of them for this);
3) Improve technique off two feet (look at the rim at all times, instead of planting looking forward or at the ground);
4) Improve foot function and strength a bit, maybe it could help;
5) Improve overall power;
6) Test and see if this has improved your jumps or mechanics.



Raptor Designed Program (Original program in black, post injury modification in blue)
==============================
Monday HamString Plyo:
Sprint                                    (After Heel Injury , Replaced sprint with light stretching as warmup)
 - 3x 60m
Consecutive 123 Jump              (After Heel Injury , Replaced this with run up lay up drill 10 on each side)
 - 3x50m
Rudiment Hop Front back Left Right
 - 2x 30

==============================
Wednesday (power):
Dumbbel Swing:
 - 40lbs 3 x 10

Explosive high bar half squat with 50% ++ Empty bar rhythmic jump squat:    (Replaced with Jump Squat toward  Explosive squat without swapping light/heavy back and forth)
 - 190lbs 3x(3+5) 

Romanian Dead  (Replaced with Normal Dead lift)
 - 180lbs 3x5  (5 sec down 2 sec hold, explode up)

One Leg Calf Raise to Big toe  3 sec up/down 2 sec hold (Replaced with 2 legged Calf Raise on Leg press machine but kept the 3sec up/down 2 sec hold)
 - 3x10
==============================
Friday Reactive
Sprint                (After Heel Injury , Replaced sprint with light stretching as warmup & run up lay up drill 10 on each side)
 - 3x 50m Max speed
Low Box Quick Depth Jump
 -3x5
Rudiment Hop Front back Left Right
 - 2x 30

===============================


Has been doing the above red program  for 1 month... than suffer from Heel pain on my left foot,
Rested for 2 weeks or so, and now I changed up the routine a little.
(as the Blue text above)
Since than, I am beeing traing 2 to 3 times per week as the above program.

had not really seriously test my vert... but some sample jump showed that vert did not increase.
=================

Weather is turning cool, I caught a cold... and I am sure this will slow me down even... if there is any possible chance of improvement.
Some vert test... in between training.. showed that my vert.. had not decrease or increase...

The run up approach has not been improved also..

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« on: November 05, 2014, 03:43:33 am »
141105 Lunch Basket

Run to foul line catch and drive lay up:
inside pivot x10 each side
outside pivot x 10 each side

Run to foul like catch and shoot:
inside pivot x 5 each side
outside pivot x 5 each side

Low pose various drill x10 each side.

141105 Gym Session
Gym Partner is like an hour late... I decide to wait for him while Squatting with some newbie side by side.
but end up doing like 5 or 6 set of Jump Squat and could not do any heavy squat today.

Bench Press (waiting for Gym Partner)   
115   2X10
125   1X5
165   1X2
165   1X1
   
Jump Squat   
45   1x10
95   1x8
115   1x5
135   1x5
155   2x5
175   1x4
175   2x5
   
Hang Clean   
115   3x5
   
Deadlift   
185   1x8
235   1x8
285   2x2
335   2x2


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