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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: January 30, 2016, 02:35:56 pm »
Do you have a hex bar for bss?  Or at least straps?  Are you doing them with your foot on barbell or bench?  Use a barbell,its much better.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: January 29, 2016, 04:56:22 am »
^I get ya that playing bball would carry over better but summer is stupidly popular and I should have reached out to teams earlier (maybe before xmas) .. i cant find any place to play at the moment :( It's actually starting to worry me because I don't think i will be able to get in good basketball shape (skill wise and conditioning being equally important) in time for the late march tournament. But short of doing drills and whatnot .. this is something I can tack on to the end of every gym training session. For now it will have to do but sooner rather than later I do need to get more specific!!

Since you realize how far from optimal it is, why not make the easy modification necessary to make it far closer to optimal?  Even just changing your cardio to repeated half miles w 3 minute walks would get you closer to basketball shape than what your doing...  I totally understand sometimes its not convenient or feasible to train optimally - but the challenge is coming up with something we can incorp orate that will better (not best) suit our goals rather than throwing hands in air and saying "well maybe this unrelated activity will carryover!"

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: January 28, 2016, 04:00:47 pm »
I'm glad to see you making gains.  I think 8 weeks on this program and you should be able to lift your previous non-fatigued maxes at which point you will be stronger and leaner than ever before. 

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I should have not used AMRAP as a term. I am doing AMRAP-in-30-seconds, what is the name for that, reps for time? Having seen your band squats video that is what i tried to mimic. So yes, it is rhythmic fast half squats for time. I get 20 reps in 30 seconds with 50kg and 15 reps in 30 seconds with 80kg, so 1.5 / 2 seconds per rep respectively.

It's splitting hairs to some extent but I would recommend you vary the times/reps more.   I think you will have to use slightly different time standards if you are doing box unbanded squats (because bands accelerate the negative so I don't think you can be quite as fast) but what we do is something like this.  I'm giving an example of weighs for someone I train who is an absolute speed endurance beast (10.7 100m and 45.5 400m). 

Basically, he uses two different loads and two different time constraints - one is to "simulate' 100/150m fatigue and the other 300/400m fatigue.  Initially he was doing 10 reps @ 225lbs + 100lb black bands in about 12 seconds and 20 reps at 185lbs + black bands in about 40 seconds.   When he was able to get 225x10 in <  10 seconds we added weight and when he got 185x20 < 30 seconds we added weight.  Eventually he was at 275x10 in around 11.5-12.0 and 225x20 in just over 30 seconds.  This type of gain is HARD to get.  In that video i posted I am doing 225x10 + bands in 9.3 seconds.  At 275x10 it takes me about 16 seconds.  This type of training makes you realize that all too often when we add weight and get stronger we are also getting slower - keeping it honest with the time makes you realize how hard it is to really get "50lbs" stronger...

Again your gonna have to fiddle with the loads that make sense for your strength levels and factor in the fact that your not doing band squats but play with it and find goals that make sense.  A good rule of thumb is unweighted squats.  We use bands + empty bar for a test.  Most athletes can get 10 banded reps done like this in about 6 seconds - which makes 10 loaded reps in under 10 seconds a feasible goal.  Just assuming it takes something like 9 seconds for 10 bar squats for you - then you would probably want to have a 15 second and 35 second goal.  Don't ever have the times go above 40 seconds though (not just your goals but any of your work sets).  Above 40 seconds you will start to enter aerobic respiration and produce H+ which will combine with the massive dose of lacate in your muscles and make our friend lactic acid which WILL shut you down for about an hour or two...  There is a reason clyde hart has his guys do 350m repeats instead of 400m repeats... Don't make this mistake!

*** Just wanted to add that varying the time/weight requires will allow a nice potentiating effect which you won't get with two 30 second sets.  Doing 20 reps with speed band squats @ 185 is EXTREMELY daunting and can make you puke.  It's not something I look forward to...  However, first doing 10 reps with MORE weight at a FASTER speed is the one thing one can use to make the set seem easier...   The initial reps will seem easy when you just did a faster and tempo with a heavier weight, doesn't mean you won't be on the ground afterwards though :).

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Acole - glad to see you back.  Thanks for the mention - what are you current goals and are you not gonna run with a team anymore?  Also, what are those handicapped runs?  I know there is one on grass thats like 120yds that Josh Ross won a few times where they handicap each person differently - pretty cool that they have them in Australia - is this a common thing?

I had the same problem with my coach when I was uni.

It was only long distance runs. Very rarely would they do power or strength training I only saw 60m runs, flying 40m but besides that it was 120m, 200m, 300m, 400m, 500m.

Lol....  Those are not very long distance runs!  So you saw 40m, 60m, 120m, 200m, 300m, 400m, 500m...  That's about every sprint distance right there...  You can't blame a coach for giving you a variety of runs to find out your ability.  Track is a TEAM sport.

Remember - it's not so much that longer runs are bad than it is that NOT doing shorter runs is bad.   The idea that your such a finely tuned engine that a single 800m time trial is going to make you lose all your power is a compete myth (especially if your not running sub 11).   It's not the 800m that's the problem - it's the idea of replacing speed work with 800m - as an adjunct it's fine.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing windmills (W2D2)
« on: January 28, 2016, 10:06:15 am »

I did 2 conditioning sessions today .. 10 mins at a leisurely pace of 6km/hr and 17:30mins at a pace of 9.1km/hr. Cardio is hard right now but i think that's cause im so grossly unfit and i have to push through and keep going. My goal is to get 3 km in under 20 mins first .. and then build up to 4km in under 20 mins. For my needs that's probably fit "enough".

For your needs that is 100x more fit than necessary.   A 4km run is about 3 more km than would have an utility whatsoever for you.  The lack of fitness you feel is not from a deficit in steady state aerobic respiration but rather lactate tolerance, resting respiration, and the efficiency of your alactic system to recover.

Again the thinking is good - but like the idea that your calves lose muscle on a cut (seriously you think your calves atrophy and hypertrophy on a timescale that short?  Do you know how much time people spend trying to build actual tissue in calves??) - the execution doesn't make much sense...

I've told the story before but in college the basketball team used to come to the track in the fall because the coach got it in his head that running a 6 minute mile was a necessity...  They had to attempt to 2-3 times a week until they got it.   The starting point guard (who was one of the fittest players on the team and played about 35 minutes a game) was at one point one of only 2 players who had to still run it (the other was some 7 foot european import)...  They didn't always come in during track practice so I don't know if he eventually got it but I remember seeing him run multiple ~6:20 with his teammates cheering him along until he fell off the pace around lap 6 (indoor track)...   That the coach didn't take this as evidence that fitness in basketball isn't relating to mileage was really puzzling - our underpaid sprints coach used to claim he deserved the job....

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: January 28, 2016, 09:57:48 am »
T0ddday, what do you think of the way i have implemented/tweaked your GPP so far?
Here are the things i would appreciate some feedback about:
-I replaced hip thrusts with (as much glute driven as possible ) RDL and band squats with speed half squats. Are you fine with this? If not, what would you recommend as replacement for each, given ( for whatever reasons ) that hip thrusts and band squats are not an option?
-I am using ~2 minutes breaks between sets and ~3 minutes breaks between exercises. Is that fine?
-How do i progress? Classic progressive overloading? Or should i push it more? I am using weights that i can handle well currently, getting all reps with perfect form. Most difficulty comes from the big heart rate, not the load itself. I could up the load so i can barely get the prescribed reps for first superset of each exercise and most possibly miss some reps on the latter ones, then keep that load until i get all reps, then up. What is better?

Hey, saw your posts and been meaning to get back to you but been super busy.  A few comments:

- First I noticed that you were doing power clean AMRAPs.  I would have told you to stop this and never do it again but it looks like you figured this out on your own (Sometimes the best coaching is sitting back and letting your athlete figure out a few things on their own :)).   I don't really like the idea of doing anything AMRAP - but it is especially senseless for a dynamic and dangerous move like the power clean.  It's just a way to get really fast at back driven speed reverse curls at best or at worst get injured.  You can't avoid everything crossfit does because they do so much but anything that's a crossfit staple is usually not a great idea...  As far as the suggestion of band squats for reps - I do want to clarify what I meant better because maybe I wasn't clear.    I wasn't suggesting band squats with an AMRAP protocol - although if you were going to do it it would be the least bad because you essentially fly through band squats until you dont - at which point the rep becomes so slow it's pretty clearly stopping time...   Rather I was suggesting timed reps.  So for example you do 10 reps with 135 + 100lb bands to a box and do it as fast as possible (or stop at 20 seconds).   Doing 20 reps in 30-40 seconds with a challenging weight will be a rhythmic 2 second rep (with a prescribed ROM from the box) and simulate the lactate response you get running 200-400m.   In the winter time when athletes cant/won't run outdoors this is a great substitute.  If you absolutely can't do band squats don't sweat it - it looks like your playing full court basketball which should provide some lactate stimulus. 

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-I replaced hip thrusts with (as much glute driven as possible ) RDL and band squats with speed half squats. Are you fine with this? If not, what would you recommend as replacement for each, given ( for whatever reasons ) that hip thrusts and band squats are not an option?

- No problem with the speed half squats - although as I stated above I don't have a problem with you just dropping the band/half squats altogether... (Also I don't think I was clear on this but the band squats are usually not used at the end of the workout but after 3 sets of squats.  So it would look like 3x6 squat followed by 1x10, 1x20 timed band squats for 5 total sets. 

  As far as the RDL's it's not ideal simply because of the effect of fatigue on RDLs vs Glute Thrust.  As you discovered when doing the workout out of order - order matters.  Squatting is done first because squatting with accumulated fatigue is extremely hard and slightly dangerous.   I much prefer hip thrusts to RDLs when you are fatigued because the tempo you can use for hip thrusts (you can hold the top for a 1-2 count and fly through the rest of the rep which you can't do for RDLs) BUT movement wise you picked a good substitute.  I can suggest a better one but given your setup something that involves more bands or cables will probably be something you can't do...  Maybe this is also off limits but if you don't mind me asking why is it that you can't do hip thrusts?  Is it that you can't lug a barbell to the floor or can't find a bench?  If you can find anything (swiss ball even - ugh) you can substitute heavy hip thrusts with single leg bridges which require a lot less resistance or even ball rollouts - would either be possible?  Or you can stick to RDLs - just BE careful. 

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-I am using ~2 minutes breaks between sets and ~3 minutes breaks between exercises. Is that fine?

- Maybe.  Assuming < 2 minutes per superset set and about 4 sets per exercise 14 minutes a set and 9 minutes resting between sets so a total time of 51 minutes - this isn't bad at all.  This should be a quick workout - an absolute max time would be 90 minutes while shooting for an hour or less - looks like you are there...

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-How do i progress? Classic progressive overloading? Or should i push it more? I am using weights that i can handle well currently, getting all reps with perfect form. Most difficulty comes from the big heart rate, not the load itself. I could up the load so i can barely get the prescribed reps for first superset of each exercise and most possibly miss some reps on the latter ones, then keep that load until i get all reps, then up. What is better?

Well...  I believe that you know your body but I would still get some data on whether it's the load or the heart rate.   For example - if you dropped all the weight moved by 30% would the workout be much much easier and you would be able to use less rest or not?  If the answer is no - then you need to slightly increase your rest intervals - don't increase them between exercises in the superset but move to 3 minutes between sets and 5 minutes with some dynamic stretching between exercises.   If the answer is yes then you can keep the rest around where it is.  Don't decrease rest. 

As far as progression - yes classic progressive overload.  It will be easy at first.  The idea of this training is it is resistance training with a fitness component - so as you get fitter you will soon be able to handle move far more weight.  Ideally we get you back up around your PRs in this scheme and then when you go to lift again with long rest intervals you will find yourself getting ridiculously strong.  This is basically one of my main principles - just like vested training - it's always easier doing what we can with a handicap (in this case fatigue) then continually getting better at what we been working on for years - so we introduce a handicap and get back to what we thought our limit was - then remove the handicap and  make progress.  This is really the reason weight training works in the first place if you think about it...  Consider why you even lift when your goal is vertical - your speed in the squat with a 45lb bar is 100x more important than whether you can squat 300, 400 or 500lbs... BUT - the easiest way to build bar speed with an empty bar is not to practice going faster with it but to add extra resistance so the bar feels lighter when you actually go back to it!

- As far as missing reps this is the basic philosophy to it.

1) Squats.  You are doing this first and shouldn't miss reps.  Work with an absolute minimum of 4 reps and a maximum of 10 reps.  So that means if you are nailing 3x6, go up to 3x8 or even 3x10.  THEN - add some weight.  You can an moderate weight and do sets of 10,8,6 OR as little as 4,4,4 (with the goal that the next workout will include more reps).  The reps are up to you - personally I favor 4,7,7 simply because I have seen the best progress on this for the most athletes but I don't think there is magic voodoo to this.  I would have athletes doing something like 315lbs x 4, 275x7,7 (or bumping that last set to 9 as a sign that they need more weight next time).   

2) Military Press.   You should never ever miss a rep here.... Because when you do you can turn it into a push press or push jerk.  You can add more weight as long as you get at least 1 rep to be a strict press.  No shame in having to do a lot of push press - I prefer it to strict press anyway for athletes.  An athlete that can't push press way way more than he can strict press is a poor athlete IMO.  Keeping the rule that you have to strict press the first rep of each set means you should never fail...

3) BSS - you can manipulate the reps here but don't go too low.  One thing I would like to see is you end the last two sets with a 10-50 second iso hold.  This will really help.

4) Hip Thrust - you can always pump out a few more :) so don't worry about adding weight...

5) Pullups/Leg raise.  Here you can add weight and if you fail just rest.  If you supposed to do 8 pullups with 45lbs (by the way don't worry about full ROM - no need for a dead hang - just be consistent) and you fail at 6...  Drop off the bar count to 5 and grab it again and do 2 more.   Same with leg raises - If you supposed to do them with a 20lb dumbell just rest and finish your set - add weight when this isn't happening.

** For your leg raises I prefer them on a slant bench but for ease of use and to keep the workout confined to a small space you can do them hanging from the bar - if you have a slant bench go that route though...

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Chris' training journal
« on: January 26, 2016, 03:43:11 pm »
Quote from: ChrisM
I'm not worrying about anyone who doesnt care about me.

My man.

She'll come crawling back to you after her ex abuses her. Dont fucking take her back.

edit: well it's up to you to take her back or not. I dont know your situation. but your attitude is a good one. good job being a man. things will get better with time.

Wow nice conscientious and considerate edit.  While this board sometimes lacks volume of athletes it does have an a pretty damn mature and resonable tenor especially when it comes to off topic discussion.   

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: January 26, 2016, 10:57:13 am »
 :uhhhfacepalm:

Your journal is one of the more interesting ones I have seen, in that I almost completely disagree with most of the criticism that others but also disagree completely with how you structure your training!

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Chris' training journal
« on: January 24, 2016, 11:44:45 am »
From Wednesday's warmups. Question: does this look more hip dominant than my normal jumps which are heavily quad dominated?

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kkh0KNqufaI" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kkh0KNqufaI</a>

I dont think your normal jumps are heavily quad dominant.  That said, a box jump will never look that hip dominant because you have to begin closing hips as soon as you leave the ground.  I would say that for a bix jump its a decently balanced jump - looks to me like some ankle rocker flexibility would get you some aid.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: ADARQ's journal
« on: January 17, 2016, 07:18:30 am »
Pretty cool.... People like to measure their 40' and 100's. But i wonder what it would be like if we all knew our top speeds, and how that correlated with things like SVJ, DLRVJ, SLRVJ, squat:bw ratio, etc.

The thing is - if you know your 40 time and your 100 time then you can calculate your top speed with almost perfect accuracy...  We don't really hit an instantaneous top speed that much faster or slower than our best 10m split over the course of the 100... 

Your top speed will have very little correlation with your squat:bw ratio and little correlation with your other jumps. 

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Scrawny to Brawny Journal
« on: January 17, 2016, 03:48:39 am »
Lol.  My ratio of push to pull is 0:1...  gonna add in some type of push i guess

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- DLRVJ x ~12
PR tie or perhaps even all-time PR by a hair. definitely the most jumps in one session over 35.5-36. got a couple good jumps on vid, will post in a minute.

My long winded response:

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏. Wow.  Two prs in a couple weeks.  Maybe you just measure your reach REALLY honestly cause your floaty jumps look about as high the claimed 40 inch jumps I see...

Criticism:  Yeah the framing sucks. 


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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: ADARQ's journal
« on: January 14, 2016, 03:29:50 am »
2XU is awesome. However, if you can't try them on first don't buy them,  sizing is whack. I tried a long sleeve top once and XL was not even possible to put on. ( my size for compression stuff is borderline M->L ).
Take a look at Skins stuff, still expensive but a bit less, great quality and an* 100% trustworthy size guide chart.


If money is no object go with the enerskin calf sleeves.  They have built in k-tape and are reversible (one side moderate compression with taping for training/competition) the other side is high level compression for recovery.   Just DO NOT sleep in them!

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- hip thrust 275 x 12,12
uncomfortable in the groinal region.


Most gyms have squat pads (those things people use to squat that adding padding on the back/neck).  While useless and dangerous for actual squats if you put in on the bar during hip thrusts it makes it 100x more comfortable.   In fact if you gym doesn't have a squat pad I highly recommend you invest in a high quality thick foam squat pad.  Makes glute thrusts more comfortable and is an absolute gamechanger for rear-leg elevated split squats.  Instead of propping your the laces of your shoes on a bench to elevate the rear leg you can set a bar low in a squat rack with the pad over it and place your rear leg on that.  Allowing your rear foot to rotate on the bar shifts the lift to your front leg and gives you range on motion from all the way down (knee almost touching floor) to close to hip hyperextension (additionally you can usually set squat racks for the optimal height for you rather than be forced to use a single height bench...

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i think this is the second time recently i've bagged a workout because of feeling dead. gonna give myself a pass today because of izzie but that's not a good habit.

also, added 3 more lbs to the weight vest last night, which i think is all it can take. not sure where the other 2 lbs are supposed to go, there are no more slots.

Eh, it's a terrible habit to bag a workout cause of feeling dead but nothing wrong with bagging a workout cause of sadness...  Sorry for you loss...   Positively happy to see you PR!  You are getting close - some small tweaks and you will be there.   A few tips...  What kind of shoes do you wear?  For your jumping style I think this is important.   Also, fine to occasionally take off the vest but IMO the best thing I did vested was the type of training I think I am "good" at...  Vested basketball and I always knew I was wearing it...  However, vested football and I forgot I had it on...  I really was able to adjust to move dynamically at a higher weight from doing football drills with it on, maybe for you vested ultimate or something else you feel really comfortable with? 

Here is a video of vested football... I'm slower... But I feel like I look like a big-torsoed fat guy playing football rather than a athlete slowed down with a vest. 

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yI3QIzzWiU" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yI3QIzzWiU</a>

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