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Injury, Prehab, & Rehab talk for the brittlebros / Re: Rehab my left leg
« on: August 16, 2020, 05:15:41 pm »
Great video for knee pain
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnssBu_cmC0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnssBu_cmC0</a>

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Injury, Prehab, & Rehab talk for the brittlebros / Rehab my left leg
« on: August 16, 2020, 04:22:02 pm »
It has been an ongoing problem with my left leg not only the knee but also the hips, especially when I sit with the left leg crossed over my right thigh and press my left knee down or do single leg squats my left hip clicks so I will go through my rehab process and some assistance as well. There was also knee pain and instability of left leg now some pain not as much as before.

I was watching a youtube video by squat university where he was helping Martin Licis.

I did the test of going into lunge position at the bottom and place front feet 6-7 inches away from the wall and try touch the wall.

With the right foot easily with little to no support I could touch the wall with my knees and bring it 10 inches away and almost with support bring it 2 fingers with near the wall and feel it in my lower calf.

But with my left foot I had to really try hard and force my knees forward to touch the wall when 6-7 inches away and tightness is lower calf.

Already doing some knee rehab suggested by CoolColJ

backwards stuff
forward step ups (peterson step up I think)
Quad stretch on couch

So will do the side step ups too and try increase height.

Airplane hip assisted work is good, hold onto something in front while leaning forward at the hip, stand on foot and the other leg extended behind and rotate the hip outwards opening your hip feeling stretch on the adductor and hold for 5 seconds.

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That's why you want to maximize fatigue to stimulus ratio in your training sessions.
Deadlift max outs are probably the worst in this regard :)

Isn't the aim of maximizing stimulus to fatigue ratio if you want to achieve hypertrophy or can it also be for strength and explosiveness.

Would you do tapering after end of each phase instead at end of season. Such as end of GPP and then at end of strength training and at end of explosive training (SPP)  etc

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Never heard of tapering before. After some google search I find the following:

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‘a progressive nonlinear reduction of the training load during a variable period of time, in an attempt to reduce the physiological and psychological stress of daily training and optimise sports performance’.

What's the difference between taper and deload, they look the same.

Thanks

Taper is more of a sports training term, deload more for weights if you want to get anal :)

For lifting, say squat/deadlft, people who can lift very heavy loads like 700-1000+ lbs can take up to 2-4 weeks to recover from their last heavy session, so they spend those weeks leading up to a meet/test doing light/medium workouts to recover and peak.
Can be acomplished by reduced volume and load/intensity.
But usually intensity is kept fairly high with a big reduction in volume, and hope muscle mass doesn't drop off

Look up fitness/fatigue theory/model, and it will make more sense

https://medium.com/@SandCResearch/what-is-the-fitness-fatigue-model-6a6ca3274aab

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The traditional fitness-fatigue model starts with the observation that performance tends to reduce immediately after a workout, and stays reduced for up a few days in some cases. Yet, after the initial reduction, there is a rebound, and performance then improves.

The fitness-fatigue model explains this curve by proposing that it is the sum of two curves, one representing the fatigue effect, and the other representing the fitness improvement. Only once the fatigue effect has dissipated is it possible to see the fitness effect, even though fitness has actually been improving from immediately after the end of the workout.

Without the fitness-fatigue model, we could easily fall into the trap of believing that the fitness adaptations to a workout only occur after a couple of days, because of the reduction in performance. In fact, adaptations probably occur very soon after the workout itself.

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What is “fitness” in an updated model?

The traditional fitness-fatigue model does not take into account newer research showing that strength can be positively affected by transient changes in the ability to produce force, as well as by long-lasting adaptations.

Long-lasting changes in strength involve adaptations inside the central nervous system or muscle-tendon unit, such as increases in voluntary activation, or increases in muscle size.

Transient improvements in the ability to produce force occur because of potentiation, which may also involve changes in either the central nervous system or inside the muscle.

Potentiation has most often been observed to occur immediately after a strength training workout, where it is referred to as the “post-activation potentiation” effect. Even so, potentiation can also be recorded several hours or even days after a workout. It is typically only seen when fatigue is minimal, such as after training with light loads and fast bar speeds.

Thus, in an updated fitness-fatigue model, we should refer to multiple fitness effects, some of which reflect long-lasting adaptations, and some of which reflect short-term potentiation.

In the traditional fitness-fatigue model, the temporary increase in fatigue that causes transitory reductions in performance was not well-defined, because of a lack of research in the area. Yet, the fatigue and recovery literature has developed substantially since the fitness-fatigue model was first suggested.

Research into recovery has shown that there are three factors that cause transient reductions in strength after a workout: (1) peripheral fatigue, (2) central fatigue, and (3) muscle damage.

Peripheral fatigue after a strength training workout is largely caused by the accumulation of metabolites, and its effects are dissipated within hours. Similarly, central fatigue is extremely transitory, and is rarely seen beyond an hour after a strength training workout (except when it occurs subsequent to severe muscle damage).

Muscle damage can produce reductions in strength that last for up to weeks in some cases, where the damage to the muscle is severe. More commonly, however, the reductions in strength because of muscle damage last only a couple of days.

Thus, in an updated fitness-fatigue model, we should refer to multiple fatigue effects. Also, we should be clear that peripheral and central fatigue usually reflect effects lasting only a few hours, while muscle damage reflects a longer-lasting effect, and is likely the primary determinant of losses in strength on the day or days after a hard workout.







I looked up tapering and came across a lot explanations and graph and it is an amazing concept but hard to get right just before the meet/competition especially amount of tapering for i.e. Olympic trials compared to actual Olympic games. This is where I have been going wrong, I just work and work and work, with a day or two rest between each week. that's why fatigue has been building up and even though the fitness has been going up and feel strong for each session, the performance during testing is not high it's actually low, but recovering from fatigue while maintaining routine to get stronger.

They mentioned the concept of overshooting phenomenon, a result of tapering in power demanding sports. But it's hard to implement in shorter sprints then it is with long distance running.

But great information, thanks.

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Never heard of tapering before. After some google search I find the following:

Quote
‘a progressive nonlinear reduction of the training load during a variable period of time, in an attempt to reduce the physiological and psychological stress of daily training and optimise sports performance’.

What's the difference between taper and deload, they look the same.

Thanks

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Would you take a week rest from last workout or is 2 to 3 days rest enough to be recovered fully to test out your jump/run/lifts.

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So you don't light weight box squats or any light lower body explosive workout to activate fibres and motor neurons and feel light maybe giving you a good result in the vertical jump or faster sprint time with light resistance running.

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Pre Testing Warm ups
« on: August 01, 2020, 09:02:06 am »
I'm curious to know the warm up routine of people on here before they test their vertical jumps, max lifts and before timing their sprint times.

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Got myself tested for covid 19 as of Sunday and got results back today for me and my siblings.

Result: Negative.

Good news definitely.

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Still working out the same way. Quad work involves reverse lunge to high knee with back leg attached to resistance bad and then single leg squats holding isolated leg doing quad stretch then squat down with the floor leg.
GHR unassisted but with some bending.

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400m Sprinting or Shorter / Re: Sprint Videos
« on: July 10, 2020, 01:53:02 pm »
Noah lyles smashes bolts 200m WR but later finds out it was 180m.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CC3UJL5hKlw" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CC3UJL5hKlw</a>

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what about backward stair climbs.

I definitely cannot do the atg split squats trying to touch my hamstring to my calves as hips feel restricted in getting that far and I can do it with front leg elevated to about 12 inches high but heel comes off the floor and back leg hip is tight and a little painful during the stretch.

but I can do seated good mornings without problems till chest goes beyond knee level.

That would be the same as Peterson setups
But if your knee hurts I would start with backwards walking or reverse sled drags as the amount of reps you can do is way higher and it's less likely to cause knee pain with shallower slopes or lower loads

You should be progressing step by step, not sure why your jumping into the more advanced exercises when your knee hurts...

All you need to fix the knee is the backwards stuff, then add in lower step ups, and progress the height if pain free, then add load.
Couch stretch - I do the one on a couch not the wall :)
Soft tissue work if needed
After a few weeks you should be good to go.

Thanks

I don't that exercise which caused pain,  it was a test on the link you gave.

But I am also doing single leg box squats with bands. No pain. I never had pain in my knee it was just unstable in certain movements or poor mobility.

Will do what you said.

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what about backward stair climbs.

I definitely cannot do the atg split squats trying to touch my hamstring to my calves as hips feel restricted in getting that far and I can do it with front leg elevated to about 12 inches high but heel comes off the floor and back leg hip is tight and a little painful during the stretch.

but I can do seated good mornings without problems till chest goes beyond knee level.

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That video is not available anymore.

I found after some testing that my left knee is more unstable then my right. If you think of the single leg squat where you stand on one leg and the other leg you hold it with the same side arm as if about to stretch quads, then you descend down slowly and controlled till your knee touches the floor then you go up. My right knee feels comfortable going down and up, only limitation is muscle strength. But with my left leg, when going down there is pain below knee cap entire front area and unstable that I can't continue descending more than half squat.

I realised this first when I was sitting on the swing and with one feet on the floor, you have one foot out making contact with ground and you slowly bend that knee letting the swing you're sitting on move forward till your shin is perpendicular to the ground, I can feel instability on my left knee than my right knee.

Even though the knee does not give me any pain during sprinting.

All the info is in this thread - check out the videos here

http://www.adarq.org/strength-power-reactivity-speed-discussion/ben-patrick-(knees-over-toes-guy)-podcast/

I'd start with backwards walking on a 30 degree slope for 2 mins a day
And do the couch stretch.

Then add the patrick stepup

My left knee used to be like yours.
it's probably due to cartilage damage on the under side of the left patella, caused by patella mistracking.
I don't know why the backwards walking works, maybe it just smooths out the surfaces and fires the VMO properly over time.
Plus the blood flow

Thanks will try that.

Previously, about a year ago or less when doing Nordic ham curls and because of the movement of patella knee cap during the motion, it gave me me bursitis, it was swollen.  It healed up after a few months doing rehab and limited range of pistols on box. But I am back at that position as I can't even get up from chair with one leg (left leg) right leg is fine.

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