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I never feel it in my glutes front squatting, but I'll take people's word for it.

However the potentiation effect is different, my quads don't feel as activated and my leg muscle dominance feels balanced. Back squats make me quad dominant easily, and I inactivate the posterior muscles. When I imagine sprinting I just feel more quad dominant that's why I'm saying this, stride is shortened, but on front squatI feel it mostly in teh VMO, back squat every part of the quads

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DIdn't Michael Johnson look like he was leaning back a bit during his races? I heard his hamstrings were so strong it did not matter for him.

I would still give low heel recovery a chance, even if Asafa is extremely strong or whatever. I have been able to do it with success, not as well as Powell, but I think any moderately above average sprinter can pull it off. You also said many great psrinters have high heel recovery, this it true. Gay and Bolt both don't carry their heels low like powell. This probably doesn't contribute to their race performance however. Both of those sprinters are faster than Powell, but Powell's start is usually better (save for Bolt's WR performance), so I suppose it does not matter too much but it may help

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Maybe but it's different because he rotates in the direction of his plant in relation tot he bar. So if he's a lefty, jumps on left foot, it's pointed left, he rotates left. TDUB plants right, but rotates left. So it's a completely different comparison

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I also questioned this myth, don't get your knees out in front of your toes.. why would it hurt? Running on a treadmill ir probably worse.

Front squats with feet together has been my jam. At the bottom of the squat I'm still on mid foot, never the heels during a front squat, it just doesn't feel right.

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Congrats,

SO it sounds like you took extra steps and 'pounded' your feet harder?

If I take extra steps, beyond 1 step, I can't jump as high. I just gotta work on it, but I jump highest off of a one step, maybe a skip then one step.

Raptor:

I've seen you talk about your approach in the past and how you think there was more speed. But from the looks of it your legs move fast, but you don't cover much ground at all in each stride, therefore it's not really that fast. THere's a lot more to it, if you look at Kadour, he moves is legs fast but achieves considerable extension in each stride which you do not so that's not true speed I suppose, maybe ground contact time is less but approach velocity can'tbe too fast:

D4: It depends on the GRFs. In triple jumping GRFs can reach 22 tmes BW. 10 lbs times 22 = 220 extra pounds, or 100 kg. Ouch. In SVJ it's like 5 (?no too sure), so 10 extra pounds wouldn't make much of a dif if it contributed.

Then there's bone density, getting bigger I think could help provide a bigger stimulus for bone growth during one leg jump practice or bounding drills. Bone density can reach a limit thogh I think, trabecular density can at least bu tother adaptations will occur. I'm about your size, 155 right now, what I notice is that it's how my CNS is activated that tells me how big or fast I am.

If I lift slowly, I feel slow. If I lift fast, even with upperbdy, I feel lighter and faster and my upperbody doesn't feel like it's weighing anyhting down.

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No high jumper I've seen plants his foot perpendicular to the bar, none of these videos showed that. Sotomayor's foot was 30 degrees + of the bar

http://www.adarq.org/forum/crazy-weird-analysis-stuff-)/galleries-high-jumpers/

perhaps our perception of perpendicular is different.. if the bar is north, the foot is pointing nearly west.

Ok, I would call that parallel to/with the bar but same thing. Definitely different though since TDUB rotates in the opposite direction a righty high jumper would.

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No high jumper I've seen plants his foot perpendicular to the bar, none of these videos showed that. Sotomayor's foot was 30 degrees + of the bar

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This comes from an advertisement not scientific study:

www.somatics.de/FascialFitnessTerraRosa.pdf


The advertisement is pretty dishonest as well.  Kram and Dawson's paper is about whether hopping is favourable in arid climates, their paper never mentions the word catapult, nor do they mention gazelles.   The statement is quite silly because most mammals (including humans) can jump farther than can be explained by just the force of muscular contraction.  This is why we jump father after an approach, we are able to store energy in our tendons.  This is why plyometric training in addition to strength training allows people to jump higher. 

If you believe that this tdubs athlete is able to jump high because of some technical prowess that is fine.  But to claim he is able to twist his myosin filaments and then severely misquote an advertisement  which severely misquotes some scientific papers is unnecessary and does a disservice to those who read your posts. 

It also makes people refuse to consider the possibility that this athletes take off mechanics allow him to store more energy from his approach, something which is entirely possible.  However, I will tell you that I have extensively studied long jump mechanics and even written papers concerning the long jump and that Carl Lewis and Mike Powell both jump close to 30 feet and have drastically different takeoff mechanics and takeoff velocity.  So even if this athlete uses this take off to achieve his high leap, it does not suggest at all that this is the only way to do it.


AND ONE.


Got any links to papers?

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Adarq:

The third image in the first set of stills you posted Tdub's feet are about 80 degrees + of basket, spine is at a similar angle.

In the next image, he rotates clockwise. Can you not see that? Cuz I mean, he clearly twists to the left, when I'd expect an RL planter to twist + to the right.


$ICK3NIN.V3ND3TTA -

You are incorrect about one thing in you last post: the angle at which TDUB is planted in relation to the rim should not matter. In his other dunks he may even be 180degrees + of the rim. SUch as in the second set of stills Adarq posted, his toes are basically 180 + of the tim (not - because approached 180 from rotating +) and in that dunk he did not rotate much since he did a completely dif dunk.

Adarq's feet face the rim, but he comes from a slanted approach like most LR dunkers, so he is rotating a little bit, the rotation you'e talking abotu though is happening after the jump, and it's compltely opposite of how others think to jump: RL planters would rotate opposite of Tdub for instance.



Also I'd imagine this coiling exercise would feel a lot like a simple 2 punch in boxing, where your back fist rotates across your entire body, and beginners would definitely feel this in your core.

THe motion is quite similar, squat back, rotate left, feet are in an RL plant right foot back, punch with right.

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THe first post in this thread contains the video.



In this video TDUb an RL planter plants his feet at a + angle (negative angle would mean counterclockwise), to the rim, but after the jump his feet, hips, neck, spine and body rotate -


I can't fathom jumping like that, nor do I think if I started jumping like that I'd have a 50inch vert, but I have rotated coutnerclockwise with my RL plants before but didn't jump much higher than regular rotation.

Maybe he rotates counter clockwise because he dunks right handed, similarly an LR left handed dunker might roatet clockwise?

Anyway, his feet go from 90 degrees + of rim, to 0 degrees of rim from plant to dunk...

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The Weis and the other dunk did look a lot different.

If I plant RL, i thought rotating towards the right (clockwise), would make more sense, but in these examples, the jumpers rotate the opposite way of the plant leg. Kind of like doing a 1,2 punch combo in boxing, you rotate one way (the coil), then uncoil with the 2.

Huh? You mean in a RL plant he actually rotates counterclockwise? You realize that's impossible don't you?

That what type of rotational plant are we speaking of..

InT-DUBS foul line dunk he plants RL, feet and spine facing 90degrees to the right of the basket. TO dunk, he rotates counterclockwise. From my understanding of this thread, s3k3ningv3nd333 is talking about this type of a rotation when he refers to coiling, and uncoiing in the opposite direction. I said this confused my because normally I'd think to rotate in the same direction as the plant

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I eat raw ground beef after workouts. I feel the ENERGY MENG! I'm 100% ersious. I might eat one box of dates, then half pound raw meat man.

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The Weis and the other dunk did look a lot different.

If I plant RL, i thought rotating towards the right (clockwise), would make more sense, but in these examples, the jumpers rotate the opposite way of the plant leg. Kind of like doing a 1,2 punch combo in boxing, you rotate one way (the coil), then uncoil with the 2.

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Can somebody answer what I asked though..so how do tendons produce force without myosin adarq?

Ppl like justin Darlington for instance, is it really their muscles producing most of the power or tendons and bones maybe?

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At least provide a source for your quote. You can't not provide a reference for quotes...

And also, what about tendons? They don't use actin/myosin how does your quote even apply to that, why even talk about force, you should be talking about power.

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