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Raptor is stupid as usual, shooting 3s and doing a ME thing are completely different things.

So shooting threes is not about strength and skill? Try to put an old woman or a kid to shoot from three point land with perfect form (let's assume they have perfect skill from 3-5 feet) and see what happens with their form without strength. Try to put a powerlifter shoot a three pointer - see what happens with all that strength expressed with a bad form.

To say that bounding is not about skill is ludicrous. But let's assume it's 100% about power, no skill involved whatsoever. Guess what? The same thing can be said about power cleans, squats and so on (of course all these are ALSO about skill, power cleans are a complex movement that you can do "many ways", but only the proper, optimal way will have a carry over to athleticism). Squats? The same thing - by the same token, you can do sissy squats and call them "squats" and say "it doesn't matter how I do them, they're squats, no skill involved". Or maybe you could goodmorning every squat and call them "squats". You don't need to practice proper-form squats anyway, right? Because squats are not about skill.

Same with med ball throws. You can throw the med ball using your arms and with the hips completely fixed, see how much that helps your jumping. Or are med balls also all about "power" and not at all about skill and proper movement mechanics?

Bounds are more specific to jumping than any of these shitty things that you do in the gym. Guess what? The more specific they are, the more helpful they are for someone like you, who has a hard time expressing his strength and power in bodyweight, specific movements targeted at jumping.

It's just useless trying to induce sense into you. In fact, I don't know why I'm bothering, especially after what you wrote in my log months ago. At that time I said if I had an option for an ignore button or something, I would've used it on you.

Now go get that power clean going. In 8 weeks of power cleaning you'll move much better and your bounds that you don't practice will obviously improve by themselves, because they don't depend on skill or actually practicing them at all.

PS. If in my completely retarded mental state of right now I make more sense than you, that should give you something to think about. I'm out, good luck (honest sentence, no sarcasm).

Sounds great, thanks for the detailed response. Here's one maybe weird question - I have dental work done, pretty significant - I'm kind of weary to, you know, expose myself to taking punches in my mouth/face, even light ones could do serious damage. How much does that mouth piece protect you? I mean if my dental piece detaches, even a little, it could be a catastrophe.

Yeah, because in the bounds you were already at your genetic ceiling-level, and you couldn't have improved them anymore after doing them for 2 times. The situation is different for the power clean.

OK, I'll try to copy you. I give up.  Trying to convince you again and again is the definition of insanity.

It's off LinkedIn, so you're going to need an account:

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/three-ways-supercharge-athletic-power-variable-jump-component-smith?trk=hb_ntf_MEGAPHONE_ARTICLE_POST

EDIT:

Full article here:

http://www.just-fly-sports.com/three-ways-to-supercharge-athletic-power/

Exactly. I once did some filming with Nightfly in the past, with him jumping head level to the rim, from a low angle. Then I went up on a fence and filmed from exactly the level of the rim. He was 4-6 inches below the rim with his head. Such a big, big difference.

Quote from: Raptor on April 22, 2016, 02:48:26 am

I was wondering, I'm thinking of going to a boxing club. Except that usually it's filled with under 80 IQ people, gypsies, and extremely idiotic "coaches". Plus probably I would quickly get in a fight with someone and, well, let's just say that getting in a fight at a boxing club is the last thing you want to do.

What do you think? What's your experience with this?

lots of good people at boxing gyms.. sure most of them might not be into the stuff you're into but, you'll find lots of dedicated people in there.. most of which probably wouldn't judge you/size you up at all; they'd probably be pretty helpful.

i seriously doubt anyone would get into a fight with you.. think about it, you're in a boxing gym. In boxing gyms, if people really have a beef, they get in the ring and slug it out, usually under supervision. Fighting outside of the square circle is often a big no-no and can get you banned from most gyms.

People actually go into boxing gyms looking for fights.. there's videos on youtube. Usually, the boxing coach will find some young tough amateur KID to beat this grown man's ass in the actual ring.

Yeah I absolutely LOVE that. Always makes me think of Charlie Zelenoff (although that guy is a victim of mental illness, so I can't really make fun of him, but still, you get the idea).

The more I think about boxing the more I want to do it.

Do you "have" to fight in the ring or you can just train? What's the progression? How does the typical learning curve look like? (what do you learn first, and how do you grow as a boxer, even a non-competitive one)?