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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Kadour Ziani's Legs
« on: April 06, 2012, 11:01:28 am »
O hai gaiz!



She looks anorexic but she clears 6'10''.

What are her super secretz for verts inchez???

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Kadour Ziani's Legs
« on: April 06, 2012, 06:21:47 am »

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Article & Video Discussion / Re: Really Good Video - Common Vertical Jump Training Errors
« on: April 05, 2012, 09:12:31 am »
In all seriousness , i do believe that this jumping form issue is overrated.
I believe that if someone jumps often , he will naturally jump with the best form for his structure/levers/strength/body composition. A few advices and main guidlines are ok but that's it.
What is REALLY benefitial is go out and jump often , that's not practicing jump form , it's just practicing jumping and its enough.
That "biomechanical insight to the jump" and overanalyzing how each step and part of the plant should be is plain bullshit.


Edit:
Decided to spice it up a little:

Quote from: Harvey M. on April 05, 2012, 08:47:09 am
Also, the planting of feet - a lot of basketballers have a tendency to plant one foot then the other in a very non-explosive manner. The feet should almost touch the ground at the same time.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6aozoz6Zu4" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6aozoz6Zu4</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMrPjl-927Q" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMrPjl-927Q</a>

woot!  :P

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Article & Video Discussion / Re: Really Good Video - Common Vertical Jump Training Errors
« on: April 05, 2012, 08:39:11 am »
Quote from: Harvey M. on April 05, 2012, 08:10:33 am
You would be surprised how many people don't know how to jump. People who've played basketball for years think they know what they're doing when they have no biomechanical insight to the jump. Get over yourself.

This whole 'vertical jump technique' mania is the latest marketing discovery of the vertical jump training industry.
It works awesome for pussies and silly kids , why kill yourself under a squat rack? Who sais so, Verkoshansky and Baggett? They didn't know the super duper secretz for exploziv vertz gainz! Learn correct form and gain instant inchez , Adam Lickmyboner promises it does!!! This cool dude from his couch does too!!! Thats so cool! :D

inb4:
Quote from: LanceSTS on April 05, 2012, 02:43:54 am

 Its a good idea for you to stop talking so much and read more, train for a few years.  Even complete a program or two.  Then come around and hash out all this knowledge you have.



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Article & Video Discussion / Re: Really Good Video - Common Vertical Jump Training Errors
« on: April 05, 2012, 04:45:49 am »
1) Press play
2) Watch first seconds of the video , see "not enough time spent on vertical jump technique"
3) Stop watching worthless video.

Now besides irony, if anyone really wants to know what are the biggest mistakes in vert training , this is the article:

http://www.higher-faster-sports.com/vjmistakes.html

And right after , you will be asking "ok , so what should i do?"

http://www.higher-faster-sports.com/verticaljumpfaq.html

/thread

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Article & Video Discussion / Re: The one leg jump and bodyweight/squat/calf importance
« on: April 05, 2012, 04:37:58 am »
Quote from: TheSituation on April 04, 2012, 09:59:05 pm

Rip can squat more than Lebron, therefore he has stronger upper legs, meaning calves are everything. derp


But lebron at his best jumps gets his head a few inches above rim at 6'8'' , so his RVJ is low-mid 40s , while rip has 48''...


Buuuuuuuuurn!!!

:ninja:

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« on: April 05, 2012, 04:23:35 am »
Quote from: scoobychau on April 04, 2012, 09:41:41 pm

I went back to the court where I jump at lunch everyday, and confirmed the Left rim is 121" & right rim is at 122".
The photo posted is the 120" rim.


:-\  :o  :ninja:  :uhhhfacepalm:

Come on , admit it , you do it on purpose , you like fucking with our brains...

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: April 04, 2012, 01:07:11 pm »
4 April 2012

Bball game
Good stamina , very good vert.
Only one rim jump , easy 10'7,5'' ( 32,5'' ) DLRVJ.
Also got this weird in-game play , i went up for an offensive rebound, i thought i was going to tip it in from underneath the rim but i was so high that i got stuffed from the rim , teammates thought i went for a putback dunk!

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News, Announcements, & Suggestions / Re: monthly newsletter
« on: April 04, 2012, 03:37:38 am »


 :P

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Review after Jump approach pratice
« on: April 04, 2012, 03:14:35 am »
Raptor , its not so bad to admit you're wrong , especially when you are evidently , undoubtfuly wrong.
Insisting that 121' - 7'5'' is 33'' makes you look like a stubborn and illiterate fool , which we all know you are not.
Your conversions were ALL wrong
121'' is NOT 308cm
Even if it was , 308-226 = 82 , that is 32,28'' , NOT 33''
Rim heights are rim heights , NOT rim heights minus rim thickness.
Just use the  :uhhhfacepalm: and let it go man...
 :-*

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Review after Jump approach pratice
« on: April 03, 2012, 01:13:26 pm »
Quote from: Raptor on April 03, 2012, 12:59:24 pm
You need 33 inches just to touch the rim if your reach is 7'5 (2.26m) and the rim is 121 inches (3.08m) (at the highest part of the rim) so... not too shabby. You're about 4 inches over the rim so that's a ~37 inch jump.

Thanks for reposting my analysis but this time wrong.

121'' - 7'5'' = 33'' ???? I mean really???

:uhhhfacepalm:  :wowthatwasnutswtf:  :uhhhfacepalm:  :wowthatwasnutswtf:

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Review after Jump approach pratice
« on: April 03, 2012, 11:08:54 am »
Quote from: LBSS on April 03, 2012, 10:36:02 am
what's your reach, scooby?

Yes scooby , what's your reach?
You should post it on your signature , so people can see it. Probably post it both in feet and in inches. Finally, post some other stuff in the signature so that it drags people's eyes , making it impossible for someone to miss it!

 :-*

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: First review after 3 session of Jump approach pratice
« on: April 03, 2012, 05:48:41 am »
Yeah , don't go crazy and totally modify your training plan everytime someone gives you an advice. Stick to the basics.
As for running , it sure ain't hurt you. But maybe you should consider replacing it with interval sprints.
It is even more time-efficient and definitely more benefitial jump-wise.
Don't go crazy and start a sprinters schedule , lol , just instead of slow running 30 mins , next time do something like 3x5 40-60m sprints.

Edit: is that rim 10' ? because i would say that's at least 4'' above it ( i'd go for 5'' considering the hand angle too ).
But that would be a 35''  :personal-record: , or not?

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Would you guys recommend I deadlift instead of RDL?
« on: April 03, 2012, 05:38:53 am »
Quote from: Dreyth on March 24, 2012, 10:18:28 am
Quote from: vag on March 24, 2012, 05:04:18 am
About setup , i use something different than you: i load the bar at the ground , make the 1st rep a regular deadlift and then carry on with the RDL reps , very easy and convenient.
Just my 2 cents.

Oh I see... do you count that first deadlift as part of the set? Meaning 1 deadlift plus 5 rdl's equal one set of 6?

I missed this, jsut saw it.
I don't count the deadlift rep BUT thats because my grip can't handle what my legs can so my RDLs are submax. 7x253 is the most ive done before my girly fingers give up, but the hams/glutes aren't really challenged. If i used straps and did a true 8RM set i would count the initial 'normal' deadlift rep too.
But that's irrelevant talk anyway, if i was to do 5-3-1 i would choose regular deadlifts over RDLs too.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: April 02, 2012, 05:50:43 pm »
^Actually that's a pretty accurate description of the situation. I squat high-bar both in free and box squats, but in the box squats i feel much better hips/glutes contribution at powering the bar up. As i said a few posts ago i don't think i am quad dominant in general, but particularly getting out of the hole in the heavy full squat sets feels very much quad dominant.
We've talked about my low-bar squatting a few times, you know i hate it and i can't get it right ( i tried , repeatedly ). Maybe it's time to man up and build up my low-bar squat, starting as low as it takes. My current block ends next week so it's a convenient point in time for a change.

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