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Used them in the past. However, when you do them, the middle of the bar is displaced from the middle of the moving leg so to speak... and that is sometimes bad for your back. The bar sits in the middle of your body, whereas you're moving with either your left or right leg and sometimes that's problematic.

Yeah I personally hate lobs. I don't see them as "true" dunks.

You know, I was thinking about the "ball wax thing"... why should ball grip be a limitation for dunking? If you want to see how high you can get, you shouldn't be put down because you used ball wax. That shouldn't be an issue. If you jump 8 inches lower because you feel the ball is slippery, how is that "cool" in any way, why should you struggle because of that?

So I don't have a problem with guys using ball wax when dunking. I've used it in the past but it made dunking "artificially". Hard to explain, but I would get "lazy" when using ball wax. Without the ball wax, I would have a "rhythm" about my run-up that I didn't have when I used ball wax, I moved differently. Interesting.

I've had enough personal experiences and stories from other people to convince me. Doctors are fucking retards. They brag about their medical school like it's some sort of nuclear bomb of intellectual achievement, yet they say the most retarded truisms and completely obnoxious opinions, and most of them I don't think have a soul in their body.

NONE has ever helped me in my life. If I go to the doctor I expect to get worse - to get an infection, to lose money, something bad to happen. You wait for 2 hours at their doors to see them take a break and not care at all about the appointment hour/schedule, they let in people that are "connected" (know the doctor/know the right "people") and so on and so forth. Some guy waited 2 hours to get a paper, lel, and was rushed out in ~30 seconds. Their education and behavior is crazy. You go there expecting someone with so many years of medical school to say something intelligent, and they come up with retarded answers that a 3 years old could come up with.

Science is great, when applied correctly. Here a lot of "doctors" believe in "alternative medicine" and "homeopathy" and "new germanic medicine" and shit like that. Insanity.

All the good doctors left in Western Europe for good salaries, and we've been left with idiots.

That has been my experience with doctors in 31 years. A waste of time and money, while at the same time getting either nonsense advice/"advice" that anybody with no medical studies could come up with.

Quote from: Raptor on May 07, 2016, 03:16:47 pm

My brain is not working anymore. I think my IQ is under 100 for sure, right now. In fact, I don't think it would be quantifiable in any way. If I were to take a psychological test right now I would fail it.

I know people take words on the screen lightly, but trust me, this is authentic.

You may be having a psychotic episode.  It would be best to see a mental health specialist right now.  That you can recognize this is important.  Your IQ is probably not much lower than normal for you because even during psychosis smart people are still smart about most things but it can seem like that and be very frustrating to not have the clarity you are used to - it would be best to see someone. 

Waste of time and money. Doctors are for nothing, they don't actually help you. They just talk and do nothing, and take your money. #fact #truth #reality

That's why I said my knee tendons suck haaaard. If I were to load my knees up like that I would immediately shut down. There is no way of "loading up" like he does in the above video. In the above video, he subjects his knees to tremendous pressures and the CNS isn't coming in and saying "let me shut this down" - no, he gets back the tension that he put into them in the amortization phase.

I have no idea if this is a CNS thing but my hunch is that it's not 100% "strength" related, meaning directly related to his squat to bodyweight ratio. It is to a certain extent, but there must be something more than that. His CNS basically allows that kind of load without shutting down his muscles, his quad tendon can "accept" a tremendous amount of tension and release it quickly.

I'm saying this because I remember when Toddday said that it's all in the "hip tendons" and "nobody has reactive quad tendons anyway". Well, look at the above video and tell me how that is true. Heck, in that plant he has his hips and torso vertical, if anything, the glute contribution is towards the late phases of his takeoff, near the toe-off. But as the initial drivers of the jump, in the deep bend, it's the quads that are doing the work, hence his plant position, and the ability of "his body" to accept that tremendous amount of knee pressure and "not give up".

If you think about the implications of the bent knee, in that it puts the calves in active insufficiency, it's even "worse". It's even more "quad dominant". It means the calves are de-activated because the knees are bent and therefore even MORE pressure is passed into the quads to stabilize, since the calves aren't active (the soleus is when the knees are bent, and the soleus isn't exactly the strongest muscle in the world).

So in any way you turn it, it comes back to quad strength and quad tendon reactivity, off two legs. Maybe the rest of the muscles contribute in the initial touch down in the plant and then move the tension into the quads as the plant is being loaded, but when you break it down, it's the quads.