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- squat 275 x 5,5,5
missed badly on 305, dropped back but will add weight as quickly as possible.

But one session before the 305 miss you have succeeded 300. Maybe you had a bad day, you should have given yourself at least another try before deloading.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: July 18, 2012, 08:41:02 am »
LOL, nah , all theese articles and logs over the years, im too used to lbs now, my mind is tuned to think progress/increments in lbs.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: July 18, 2012, 04:39:31 am »
17 July 2012

Bodyweight@session : ~191
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none? Left quad does't bug at all anymore.

Starting Strength - workout #7

SQUATS :
5@137,5 lbs ( +5,5 lbs )
5@137,5 lbs ( +5,5 lbs )
5@137,5 lbs ( +5,5 lbs )
-Nice. It felt like i kept torso more upright and bar travelled less in front.

BENCH PRESS:
5@143 lbs ( +5,5 lbs )
5@143 lbs ( +5,5 lbs )
5@143 lbs ( +5,5 lbs )
-Impressively strong for my weak-ass bench. 15 perfert form/ROM reps , no grinders.

SEATED MACHINE ROWS:
8@220 lbs ( +5 lbs ) ,  :personal-record:
8@220 lbs ( +5 lbs )
7@220 lbs ( +5 lbs ) , ( -1 rep )
-Was very strong here too.

STANDING CALVE RAISES:
Bored and skipped them again.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: July 14, 2012, 09:06:03 am »
So i got ready for the gym, went there , and it turns out that they changed the schedule for the summer and they close earlier at Saturdays! Came back home to make up with a pistol-squats workout but it's too hot and i was too demotivated!
FML, let's just see it as a forced rest/recovery week...

3650
I agree with everyone , that combine measurement could have 1 million parameters that we don't know.

Take home points:

1) Your reach is 98'', you can touch 10'9'', your RVJ is 31'', period!

2) This is NOT 36'' :


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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: July 11, 2012, 01:07:12 pm »
^LOL no worries , your intentions are good!

Uploaded the video in my pics/vids thread:
http://www.adarq.org/forum/adarq-org-special-content/age-vs-vertical-pics-and-vids/msg72837/#msg72837


Please comment there, NEED FEEDBACK!!!

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: July 11, 2012, 11:05:00 am »
torso lean is in large part a function of your leverages -- how long each part of your legs is and how long your torso is. no one squats perfectly upright. i manage to stay pretty upright, even though i squat closer to low-bar, because i have average-to-short legs and good hip mobility. but your legs are long IIRC, so maybe you'll just never get that upright posture you see in youtube videos of great squatters.

Yeah, i know, i've posted it myself in my pics/vids thread:

I think what describes me best is this:
A lot of athletes are built with a shorter torso and longer legs, for these athletes putting the bar down a few inches lower on the rear delts is beneficial, and can influence the load used significantly.  For athletes of this build, they are going to have significant forward lean REGARDLESS of the squat style they choose in most cases, so reducing the lever arm of the upper torso, actually HELPS them get more glute, quad, and hamstring involvement, without the same stress a higher position has on the low back.  An athlete with a longer torso will often feel MORE lower back involvement when attempting this style, it all depends on the individual.  As long as you follow the same general guidelines, shoulder width or slightly wider stance, slightly below parallel depth, and the LEGS and HIPS taking the brunt of the workload, you need not worry about which type of squat youre doing, youre strengthening your LOWER BODY.



repeat: VIDEO.

-Anyway no more comments now , i have to upload the vid when i get back home so you guys can tell me what seems to be the problem.

:-*

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Basketball / Re: A WHOLE BUNCH OF DUNKS AND SHIT.
« on: July 11, 2012, 10:54:59 am »

at 2:11 he looks like he could get his nose to the rim if he reached for it. Looks a bit like AUT. That looks 50


I missed that jump! You are right, that looks like legit 5''-6'' above rim so def 50'', if he is legit 6'2'' that's 52'' or so.

:o  :ibjumping:

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: July 11, 2012, 04:36:58 am »
11 July 2012

Bodyweight@session : ~191
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : left quad.

Starting Strength - workout #6

SQUATS :
5@132 lbs ( -44 lbs )
5@132 lbs ( -44 lbs )
5@132 lbs ( -44 lbs )
-So i did the planned reset. Started with 5xBW , then did 5x44, 3x66, 3x88, 3x110.
-Then, doing 3x132 i had a noticable bar speed decrease so i continued to do 5 reps and then 2 more sets of 5. I felt i was doing good , i widened my stance, i was going below parallel , staying upright, not goodmorninging etc. Then i decided to film my last set : DISASTER!!! I am leaning forward too much. Bar doesn't travel far though , i just cant keep my torso straight to achieve depth. On the other hand , looking at the botom squat position of the starting strength site wallpaper (http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/Starting_Strength_Wiki), he has some serious lean too. WTF? This is way too frustrating!
-Anyway no more comments now , i have to upload the vid when i get back home so you guys can tell me what seems to be the problem.

BENCH PRESS:
5@137,5 lbs ( +same )
5@137,5 lbs ( +same )
5@137,5 lbs ( +same )
-Did the same load coz i cheated ROM on 4 reps last time. This time it was awesome, good bar speed, full ROM in all reps, very strong.

SEATED MACHINE ROWS:
8@215 lbs ( +same )
8@215 lbs ( +same )
8@215 lbs ( +same )
-So this machine i am using has 2 plates rows, one with 15lbs plates and another with just two 5lbs plates. I was planned to do 220 today. I put 215 on the big row and 5 on the small. I completed all reps in good form, rather easy too, it was like "hey, i am not that strong , i should struggle with those". So i check and the 5lbs was not pinned completely so it didn't move, i redid 215. DUH!!!

STANDING CALVE RAISES:
Bored , skipped them.

3655
I was able to do 3 x 225 x 5 without too much problem.  next will be 3 x 230 x 5.

Say I hit a wall at 3 x 250 x 5, what is my next play?


http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ:The_Program#Stalling.2C_Resetting_and_Progressing

First make sure you did hit a wall:

Quote

If so , next workout use 10% lighter load and then build back up.

Here is an example of getting stalled and reseting:

Quote

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Basketball / Re: A WHOLE BUNCH OF DUNKS AND SHIT.
« on: July 10, 2012, 07:53:18 am »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qds013O_b9M" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qds013O_b9M</a>

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Basketball / Re: A WHOLE BUNCH OF DUNKS AND SHIT.
« on: July 10, 2012, 04:02:52 am »
Oh and vag - I measure from heel off the ground to heel on the ground - when the heels raise the COM raises, if you pull up your toes you're on the air so I count that.

Yeah , you are wrong, it is just a good estimate and that happens by coincidence.
While you are still on the ground , you might be accelerating, keeping steady speed and then accelerating, maybe decelerating and then accelerating, the hangtime calculation formulas are not valid. The hangtime calculation formula is valid only after toes off , because then you have an initial velocity and gravity decelerating you. There is a type for that kind of movement and it is 100% accurate and the same for everyone on this world. Before that , each individual will have different acceleration patterns/times. What really happens is that including the acceleration phase in the hangtime caclulation inflates the calculated vert and that makes up for the error i mentioned in my previous post, so you get a number that is a good estimation, but that happens by coincidence. The 5'' correction i proposed is more reliable.
On another note , the hangtime calculation formula is accurate only for 100% vertical jumps. Adding angle to the jump introduces error to the calculated vert. But that error is equal the sinus of the takeoff angle, so for a 2 degrees angle your error will be  ~0,03 ( 3% , 1.5 inches error every 50'' jump ).
Not my 2 cents , the only and undoubtable scientific truth.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: July 09, 2012, 02:52:03 pm »
^ Beast lift! Yeah, that's the way:
lighter completed good form rep > heavier missed good form rep > heavier completed bad form rep.

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Basketball / Re: A WHOLE BUNCH OF DUNKS AND SHIT.
« on: July 09, 2012, 12:54:45 pm »
Myree - 51 inch jump at 1:12

He has 31 frames of hangtime for a 30 fps video, which amounts to 1.023 seconds which means a 51 inch vert

Keep in mind that the slightest leg bend during landing inflates your hangtime so it 'cheats' your vert. The same error occurs with the slightest rim touch as it makes your descend time longer.
On the other hand,  as i have posted many times, by definition the toes-off to touchdown hangtime calculates the "reach at tip of toes to highest touch" vert which is about 5'' smaller than the vert that we use ( flatfooted reach to highest touch ).
In each case, the best and only 100% accurate measurement is comparing flatfooted reach/head height to highest touch/highest head height respectively.
Myree that is listed 6'2'', he needs 46'' to get his head at a 10' rim. Given the distortion and all i'd say that jump is around there, Also as i always say after such an analysis , it doesn't really matter, he's pure beast!

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: July 09, 2012, 12:36:36 pm »
VIDEO



I refuse to film such squats, they were just hideous , they had more forward lean than those:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcdaL0xUuXM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcdaL0xUuXM</a>

Quad feels totally healed today, yet i decided to give it more rest/recovery, gonna squat only 2 times this week , tomorrow and Friday.

Today : long lower body stretch routine.

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