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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Amrs & legs lengths
« on: August 02, 2012, 06:02:20 am »
After recent discussion about pressing and squatting i decided to measure my limbs.
It could be a good explanation to why i suck so much at bench press and full squat.

Arms :
Fingertip to elbow : ~50cm ( ~20'' )
Elbow to shoulder : ~30cm ( ~12'' )
Total : ~80cm ( ~32'' )

Legs:
Heel to knee : ~55cm ( ~22'' )
Knee to hip joint : ~45cm ( 18'' )
Total : ~100cm ( ~40'' )

In presses my arms make it really weird to go full rom, the extra long elbow-palm length calls for crazy bend/flexibility.
Same with legs i suppose, to get my hip joint to mid-calves height i need to travel ~25-30'' down.

Are my metrics totally fucked up ( reminder , height just below 6' barefoot , 6'5'' wingspan ), does it affect my lifting, or am i just making excuses?

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: August 02, 2012, 04:30:50 am »
Reference body measurements:

Net weight in the morning : 187,6 lbs ( 85,3kg )

Waist : 35,4'' ( 90cm )

Bodyfat scale estimation : 15,7%
Bodyfat online estimation : 17,6%

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: August 02, 2012, 03:43:33 am »
Quote from: acole14 on August 01, 2012, 10:49:51 pm
Completely unrelated to seated shoulder press, but congrats on getting your journal to 100 pages! Adarq.org Centurion  :headbang:

Thanks man, now that's a sweet  :personal-record:
And a great way to achieve it , all the forum stopped by tonight!  :D

As for the presses i thing LBSS nailed it:

Quote from: LBSS on August 01, 2012, 07:01:28 pm
there's a guy at my gym who can overhead press as much as he can bench. he's not super-strong in either, but maybe some people are just better set up to do vertical than horizontal pressing?

Also, many many years ago when i was doing the 'classic' gym split ( chest&biceps - back&triceps - shoulders&legs ), i remember my incline bench eventually surpassing than my flat bench! Anyway my bench is way too weak so weird ratios like this are expected. A few pages ago there was a discussion about my push-pull ratios too, i can lat-pulldown or machine-row 200+ for reps while current bench 5RM is about 150.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: August 01, 2012, 04:52:56 pm »
Quote from: T0ddday on August 01, 2012, 04:01:23 pm
Quote from: Raptor on August 01, 2012, 03:19:58 pm
3x5 with 55 kg overhead press?

wtf...

I don't think I can do one set of 5 with 40 kg.

Agreed! Anything close to a plate is difficult actually seated vertically.  I can push press and bench over 250+ but find 135 really challenging in the seated vertical press.  No chest, no legs, just nothing to push with!

Really??? I thought i was weak at presses, my bench PR is an embarrassing 3x165, LOL.
Maybe i am doing them wrong , my ROM/depth is from full extension to about chin level. I find it very hard with my long ass hands to go deeper ( when my hands are parallel to the ground the bar is above my head ).
Maybe i am deluded and those presses i do qualify as half-presses, hence the "good" numbers.
Also FWIW, i dumped doing standing presses because they were very difficult for me, 8x99lbs was my PR and it felt very uncomfortable and hard, stressing my spine a lot too.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: August 01, 2012, 02:35:00 pm »
1 August 2012

Bodyweight@session : ~190
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : left quad

Starting Strength - workout #13

SQUATS:
Skipped! Just checked log , there hasn't been a single week that i didn't squat in all 2012!

SEATED OHP:
5@121 lbs ( +5,5 lbs )
5@121 lbs ( +5,5 lbs )
5@121 lbs ( +5,5 lbs )
-Awesome, also PR-ish.
Most i've done this year is 8@110lbs. I remember doing 8x132 the past years but it was at the smith machine.
So in free weights seated OHP that's a  :personal-record:

CHINUPS:
9@Bodyweight ( +2 reps ) ,  :personal-record:
7@Bodyweight ( same )
7@Bodyweight ( +1 rep )
Total = 23 ( +3 reps )
-Awesome,  :personal-record: total too.

BICEPS EZ-BAR CURLS:
12@65 lbs ( +5,5 lbs )
12@65 lbs ( +5,5 lbs )
10@65 lbs ( +5,5 lbs ) , ( -2 reps )
-Very nice.

TRICEPS PUSHDOWNS:
12@60,5 lbs ( +5,5 lbs )
12@60,5 lbs ( +5,5 lbs )
12@60,5 lbs ( +5,5 lbs )
-Very nice.

The missing squats fatigue had obvious positive results on the other lifts.
I'm off for holidays, finally ~20 days of rest for my injured quad. If it still has issues when i come back I'm going to a doctor.
I will try to make a smart cut during the time off, with quality diet but without exaggerations. A good goal would be 183-185 wet weight at 14-15%bf, current status is 190-192 wet weight at 16-17% bf.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: [x] 5 x 255 x 3
« on: August 01, 2012, 09:06:07 am »
Steven Miller , box squats were recommended from Lance for a while, only as a progression to get his form right, it's posted on the other thread:

Quote from: LanceSTS on July 30, 2012, 07:23:55 am
You may need to use a box for a little while until you learn to lead with your hips first, then transition into a free squat.  The stance does not need to be wider, the load needs to be shifted to your HIPS though. 

If i haven't read the other thread i would have thought exactly what you posted.

Just saying this so hyperdunk doesn't get confused and abandons the box squats.


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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« on: August 01, 2012, 08:54:58 am »
Quote from: LBSS on July 31, 2012, 10:13:33 pm

- squat 305 x 5,5,5
 :personal-record:


:headbang: :highfive:  :strong:  :ibsquatting:

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: beast
« on: August 01, 2012, 08:53:32 am »
Quote from: LBSS on July 31, 2012, 11:11:17 am


ZOMFG , its quadzilla!!!

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: July 31, 2012, 02:27:43 am »
Quote from: Rip on July 30, 2012, 09:24:48 pm
i just read the last few pages of your log and im curious as to why you are squatting with 165 when your max is much higher?

I decided to stick with the Starting Strength with full squats for a while, see what happens. My full squat always sucked, i just didn't freak out about depth , i would keep ramping the weight and reping it as deep as i could, ending up in 300-something half squats. Now i want to stick with full squats. Also i have an injured quad for the last couple of months that i won't let heal.


Quote from: Rip on July 30, 2012, 09:24:48 pm
also regarding your age, how do your joints feel training this way at your age..? im constantly worried about my knees and back being fucked from all this very heavy squatting and jumping.

My knees and joints feel like they did 20 years ago but i am sure i am not ordinary. Never ever had any knee or joint pain in my whole life. Lucky mofo.

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Volleyball / Re: Volleyball is the Olympics' most watched sport
« on: July 30, 2012, 06:29:54 pm »
^
google is your friend , make a few obvious searches and see you are evidently wrong.

Here is a site that has many different studies on the topic:
http://www.topendsports.com/world/lists/popular-sport/index.htm

There is indeed one study that finds volleyball the sport with the most participants but even the site owners AND the people that conducted the sruvey dish it:
http://www.topendsports.com/world/lists/popular-sport/final.htm

Quote
Here is a list of the top 10 most popular sports, as discussed by Johann and Sandra. The ranking was based on the estimates of participants in the sport worldwide (based on 2002 figures). The data was provided by each of the International Sports Federations themselves, and so the method of counting participants may vary between each sporting federation. On their page, Johann and Sandra question the accuracy of some of the figures themselves.

This is the only list we have found that does not have Soccer/Football on the top of the list, and some of the ranks don't seem right. Dragon Boat Racing one of the world's most popular sports? I don't think so. There are millions of people who play soccer in the streets around the world, but as they do not play in any formal competition they would not be counted as 'participants'.

In olympic games particular:

http://www.topendsports.com/world/lists/popular-sport/olympics.htm
volelyball #17 , beach volley #22

http://www.topendsports.com/world/lists/popular-sport/ioc-website.htm
volleyball #5 , beach volley unlisted ( below #28 )


In your defence, volleyball has the most national federations:
http://www.topendsports.com/world/lists/popular-sport/federations.htm


Now you have to find some data to back up this statement :

Quote from: Harvey on July 28, 2012, 07:27:17 pm
Beach and indoor are, by far, the most watched Olympic sports. More people watch these sports than the athletics or the swimming or the basketball.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: July 30, 2012, 03:49:17 pm »
30 July 2012

Bodyweight@session : ~192 ( carbed up )
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : left quad

Starting Strength - workout #12

SQUATS :
3@165 lbs ( +5,5 lbs ) , ( -2 reps )
3@165 lbs ( +5,5 lbs ) , ( -2 reps )
3@165 lbs ( +5,5 lbs ) , ( -2 reps )
-Fail!  :uhhhfacepalm:

BENCH PRESS:
5@148,5 lbs ( same ) , ( +1 rep )
5@148,5 lbs ( same ) , ( +1 rep )
4@148,5 lbs ( same ) , ( same )
-Awesome bench performance for my standards.

SEATED MACHINE ROWS:
8@225 lbs ( same ) , ( same ) , ties :personal-record:
7@225 lbs ( same ) , ( same )
8@225 lbs ( same ) , ( +2 reps ) , ties  :personal-record:
-Awesome performance here too.

-Today i was fresh , rested well all weekend , energy & caffeine tanks were great for a workout. My left quad had different opinion though, injury reflared. I should expect it , squatting 3 times a week increasing loads is not how you go around a quad strain. Form was bad , all reps were grinders and forward lean was ugly. It is not about the load either as i had the same problems even with empty bar, my quad was collapsing at half-squat depth. Anyways vacation is here , i have a final workout in 2 days left but i am not sure if i will squat. 2-3 weeks of rest & swimming sounds like what i need right now.



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Injury, Prehab, & Rehab talk for the brittlebros / Re: draining your own knees
« on: July 30, 2012, 03:36:35 pm »
Quote from: LBSS on July 30, 2012, 01:25:18 pm
^^^ pansy. you don't have to hit play.

So we can embed porn or snuff videos too, as long as nothing is shown in the preview pic everything is fine...
LOL, looks like Lance removed it already anyway!  :headbang:

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Volleyball / Re: Volleyball is the Olympics' most watched sport
« on: July 30, 2012, 03:32:40 pm »
Quote from: LBSS on July 30, 2012, 12:48:00 pm
aw, vag, i was trying to be gentle. anyway, yes. either the director of australian volleyball is deluded or harvey misheard. the bald guy is one of the best beach volleyball players ever, fwiw. he and his partner are defending olympic champs. watched them whup a japanese team yesterday despite playing badly.

Come on , you know i love exaggerating to a graphic point.  :P
I searched the guy before i posted the previous post, i know who he is and i highly respect ANY olympic athlete , even more the top ones like himself.
I am also sure the director knew what he was talking about, it just wasn't what harvey posted. Maybe it was local numbers in Australia , maybe it was the most watched event the day that it happened etc.
The thread topic remains hilarious!  :wowthatwasnutswtf:

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Injury, Prehab, & Rehab talk for the brittlebros / Re: draining your own knees
« on: July 30, 2012, 10:57:04 am »
Also , can we remove this disturbing video? Having it one time in this forum was too much already!

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Volleyball / Re: Volleyball is the Olympics' most watched sport
« on: July 30, 2012, 10:53:20 am »
NO FUCKING WAY is voleyball the most watched olympic sport!

Im bored to look too , ill just do a fast google search...


10 minutes later:

Bullshit , there is only one childish written blog that claims the beach-volleyball in 2008 had astronomical numbers, without references at all.
All the other researches show the expected: track and filed is the king by FAR , then swimming and then a bunch of popular sports, basketball , football, gymnastics, almost equal. Beach voleyball is beyond #20.

It's common sense actually, who the fuck is this bald motherfucker? If he had to watch one of his games,  a USA-Spain basketball final, a Lachte vs Phelps swimming final , or the 100m/200m finals , would he even watch himself?
NO! :D

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