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I have been doing that squat sequence as a part of my squat warmup lately after raptor posted it in my thread. Feels likes it works great, not sure if it is placebo or real though.
4 minutes per side? Is that 4 continues minutes or sets of less? I do 2 sets of 45-60 seconds.

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- lower leg stretching, focus on anterior hip and quad

What is the set of stretches you use for quads? I ask because i have a hard time applying efficient quad stretches, they all feel like i am stretching the knee and not the quad (:uhhhfacepalm:).
The only one that really feels awesome for me is that 'kellyb stretch'.

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LOL , nice try raptor!

Does not matter anyway = my programming advice was clear so i didn't want to spam the topic anymore talking about if i was contradictive or not. Which i am doing now... i'm out!  8)

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I meant that i agree with acole regarding p-chain, not the whole post. Not that it matters anyway...

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: December 01, 2012, 09:02:21 am »
1 December 2012

Bodyweight@session : ~194
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none?

Lance's 3-set-progress template - workout #13

FRONT SQUATS:
8@121 lbs ( +3 reps )
8@121 lbs ( +3 reps )
8@121 lbs ( -2 reps )
Total = 24 reps ( +4 reps )
-Great but exhausting.

STANDING OHP:
7@93,5 lbs ( +1 rep )
6@93,5 lbs ( same )
6@93,5 lbs ( same )
Total : 19 reps ( +1 rep )
-Very hard.

DEAD HANG CHINUPS:
8@BW+11lbs  ( same )
7@BW+11lbs  ( +1 rep )
7@BW+11lbs  ( +1 rep )
Total = 22 ( +2 reps )
-Very hard here too.

-Upper body was hard. Maybe deficit is catching up with me. Or just a weak day. We will see.
-Quad has not been bugging at all the last 3 days. No quad bugging at all during squats today too. Let's see what happens tomorrow.

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I agree with acole , you always neglect p-chain if i am not wrong. Put some RDL/BSS somwehere in there and stick with them , progress until pchain is strong.
Edit: I also agree with raptor on the other thread , you also neglect calves.

About plyos, i really like this kellyb article:

http://www.higher-faster-sports.com/plyomyths.html

Quote
Myth #2 - Plyometric action is a highly trainable quality =======================================================

How much additional force you get from a "plyometric" movement is mostly genetic and unique to you as an individual. True plyometric ability isn't something you can really impact through training to a large extent. In fact, it's likely to get less as you grow as an athlete even as you progress as an athlete. HUH!? Before everybody goes off the deep end with that statement let me explain:
Let's say your standing stationary vertical jump is currently 20 inches and your 3 step countermovement vert is 26 inches
That basically means you're getting 6 additional inches from plyometric action.
What I'm saying is you're unlikely to ever see that difference grow much. It can (and usually does) get smaller, but it rarely grows much, even as your overall performance gets better. The general trend in any developing athlete is to get more proficient at exerting force under smaller windows of opportunity so he finds over time he doesn't need as much wind-up to generate the same amount of power. This is even true for people like high jumpers, who seek to benefit as much as possible from plyometric action.
In sticking with this same hypothetical example, lets say you improve your stationary jump from 20 up to 35 inches. You're still unlikely to find more than a 6 inch difference in your running countermovement jump (41 inches), regardless of what type of training you did to get there. Generally speaking, the longer your limbs and legs (particularly lower legs), the greater you'll benefit from plyometric wind-up. The shorter your legs, the more likely you are to jump just as high or move just as well from a virtual standstill.

Plyos are good and all but i wouldn't use them more than what you typed, low-impact for mobility/efficiency maintenance and injury avoidance.
Even jsut SVJs could be enough but a few extra movements won't hurt for sure.

So yes , i am with KF & steven miller:
Go nuts on squat >>> achieve mid-30's SVJ >>> enjoy bonus effect of high-30's RVJ (dunking).

If i were you i would do just what you typed with some pchain progression and calves work in there too.

Just my 2 cents.

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ADARQ & LanceSTS - Q&A / Re: Pain in right quad
« on: November 29, 2012, 06:00:55 am »
Now that's interesting. I use box pistols as a recovery evaluation, when they don't hurt at all i consider quad is above 95%.
I will use box pistols to evaluate if i should squat from now on. Pain in pistol => replace squat with SL leg press.
Thanks!

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: November 29, 2012, 05:48:05 am »
Cutting evaluation after 4 weeks:

Week 1:
Starting weight : 196
Average Kcal/day consumed : 1950
Average Kcal/day on workout days : 2050
Average Kcal/day no workout days : 1850
Final weight : 198 ( +2 )

Week 2:
Starting weight : 198
Average Kcal/day consumed : 1720
Average Kcal/day on workout days : 1780
Average Kcal/day no workout days : 1675
Final weight : 194,5 ( -3,5 )

Week 3:
Starting weight : 194,5
Average Kcal/day consumed : 2015
Average Kcal/day on workout days : 2125
Average Kcal/day no workout days : 1850
Final weight : 195 ( +0,5 )

Week 4:
Starting weight : 195
Average Kcal/day consumed : 1935
Average Kcal/day on workout days : 2050
Average Kcal/day no workout days : 1850
Final weight : 194,5 ( -0,5 )

Comments :
Something went wrong in the 1st week that skewed my results and decisions. Water retention or sth caused an unjustified weight increase. It was linear all week too , not jsut a random high-weight spike. On the 2nd week loss was too big but that was coming from the weird 198 of week 1. So wrong big increase on week 1 , wrong big decrease in week 2.
Finally it looks like it's stabilised and reacting linealy and 'logically' the last 2 weeks. It looks like 2000 average ( ~2100 on workout days , ~1850 other ) has me on maintenance.
Why i didn't loose weight those 2 weeks? I wasn't consistent with my plan , i was supposed to consume 1900 on workout days and 1700 on others, i am 150-200 kcals off.
Next step : retry week 2's diet ( ~1800 on workout days , ~1600 on others ) and see what happens.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: November 28, 2012, 02:46:57 pm »
^^^^^
Hahahahahah , loled IRL!!!
Nothing impressive though, don't forget i am ~195lbs. Also they are 16'' flexed, relaxed they are ~14,5''
Ive been very consistent with upper this season, Monday seated rows + Wednesday curls + Friday chinups seal the deal.

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ADARQ & LanceSTS - Q&A / Re: Pain in right quad
« on: November 28, 2012, 02:20:03 pm »
Lance/adarqui, what is your opinion about using the leg press for quad strain rehab? Currently i am doing single leg extensions, 4x15 with a 2:2:2 tempo.
Current plan is:
Monday : back squat
Wednesday : RDL + rehab
Friday : front squat
I was thinking i could possibly replace one of the 2 weekly squatting days with leg press until i am at 100% , currently it feels like i am at 90-95%. It feels like i am trapped in a never ending cycle that  i  squat, go down to 90%, recover to 95% until next squat session and all over again.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: November 28, 2012, 02:11:31 pm »
28 November 2012

Bodyweight@session : ~194,5
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : left quad randomly flaring

Lance's 3-set-progress template - workout #12

ROMANIAN DEADLIFTS:
7@187 lbs ( +2 reps ) ---> overhand grip
6@187 lbs ( +1 reps ) ---> overhand grip
10@187 lbs ( +5 reps ) ---> mixed grip
Total : 23 reps ( +8 reps )
-I forgot i always switched to mixed grip above 80kg. So much easier, better form too as i dont have to think grip at all, pure p-chain.
10@187 is new form :personal-record:

SINGLE LEG EXTENSIONS:
15@25 lbs each leg
15@30 lbs each leg ( +5 lbs )
15@35 lbs each leg ( +10 lbs )
15@35 lbs each leg ( +10 lbs )
-Tempo = 2:2:2. Very strong, no quad bugging.

BICEPS EZ-BAR CURLS:
10@87 lbs ( +2 reps )
9@87 lbs ( +1 rep )
8@87 lbs ( +1 rep )
Total : 27 reps ( +4 reps )
-Awesome, very strong.
10@87 is probably all time :personal-record: I don't have bicep curls PR logged, must search log and im too bored.
Makes sense as biceps are at 16'' flexed currently which is PR too.

TRICEPS PUSHDOWNS:
10@77 lbs ( same )
10@77 lbs ( same )
10@77 lbs ( same )
Total : 30 reps ( same )
-This was hard , harder than last time.

Quad was acting weird today. During the day, it would start bugging suddenly when flexed, then stop. Same at gym.
So i decided to try the leg press ( blasphemy!!! ) as a lower body strengthening alternative.

SEATED LEG PRESS MACHINE:
5@100lbs ---> no quad bugging.
5@200lbs ---> no quad bugging.
5@300lbs ---> slight quad bugging on concentric
3@350lbs ---> slight quad bugging on concentric
3@400lbs ---> slight quad bugging on concentric and eccentric
2@450lbs ---> slight quad bugging on concentric and eccentric
1@500lbs ---> slight quad bugging on concentric and eccentric
-Dafuq??? I expected to feel some pain and stop at around 250 or 300, instead even 500 was easy, no sharp pain, no grinder.

-Lower body stretching.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: November 27, 2012, 03:08:54 pm »
27 November 2012

Foam rolling + long lower body stretching.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: November 26, 2012, 02:21:34 pm »
Very nice. These front squats should really help you.

For sure, lifting shoes FTW, would never be able to do front squats without them!



26 November 2012

Bodyweight@session : ~196 , oops!
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none!

Lance's 3-set-progress template  - workout #11

SQUATS:
10@132 lbs ( +4 reps ):personal-record:
8@132 lbs ( +2 reps )
8@132 lbs ( +2 reps )
Total : 26 reps ( +8 reps )
-Awesome. No quad bugging at all. Silly PR is silly again , never did 10 reps in backsquats so far.
Perfect form in all sets and reps, no grinders, 2-3 good form reps in the tank at each set.

BENCH PRESS:
5@148,5 lbs ( +5,5 lbs ) , ( -2 reps )
5@148,5 lbs ( +5,5 lbs ) , ( -2 reps )
5@148,5 lbs ( +5,5 lbs ) , ( -2 reps )
Total : 15 ( -6 reps )
-Last week's 143x3x7 gives bigger 1RM but still 148,5 ties all time 3x5  :personal-record:

SEATED CHEST SUPPORTED MACHINE ROWS:
8@154 lbs ( same )
8@154 lbs ( +1 rep )
8@154 lbs ( +1 rep )
Total : 24 ( +2 reps )
-Very nice.

Long lower body stretching.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: November 24, 2012, 11:50:49 am »
24  November 2012

Bodyweight@session : ~194
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none?

Lance's 3-set-progress template - workout #10

FRONT SQUATS:
5@121 lbs
5@121 lbs
10@121 lbs ,  :personal-record:
Total = 20 reps
-Great. Silly PR is silly as it is the 2nd time ever doing front squats but i will take it. Reps PR too , i've never squatted above 6 reps i think.

STANDING OHP:
6@93,5 lbs ( +5,5 lbs ) , ( -2 reps )
6@93,5 lbs ( +5,5 lbs ) , ( -1 rep )
6@93,5 lbs ( +5,5 lbs ) , ( -1 rep )
Total : 18 reps ( -4 reps )
-Great considering the load increase.

DEAD HANG CHINUPS:
8@BW+11lbs  ( +11 lbs ) , ( -2 reps ):personal-record:
6@BW+11lbs  ( +11 lbs ) , ( -2 reps )
6@BW+11lbs  ( +11 lbs ) , ( -1 reps)
Total = 20 ( -5 reps )
-Silly PR here too as it is the first time doing loaded chinups ever but i will also take it.

Very strong day. Workout was done AM coming from a long drinking night , i expected it do be bad but it went really good.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: November 21, 2012, 02:04:03 pm »
21 November 2012

Bodyweight@session : ~195
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : slight quad bugging

Lance's 3-set-progress template - workout #9

ROMANIAN DEADLIFTS:
5@187 lbs ( +11 lbs ) , ( -3 reps )
5@187 lbs ( +11 lbs ) , ( -2 reps )
5@187 lbs ( +11 lbs ) , ( -2 reps )
Total : 15 reps ( -7 reps )
-Upped load. Did them in lifting shoes, much better. Limiting factor was grip.  :-\

SINGLE LEG EXTENSIONS:
4x15@25 lbs each leg.
-Tempo = 2:2:2.

BICEPS EZ-BAR CURLS:
8@87 lbs ( +5,5 lbs ) , ( -4 reps )
8@87 lbs ( +5,5 lbs ) , ( -1 rep )
7@87 lbs ( +5,5 lbs ) , ( -1 rep )
Total : 23 reps ( -6 reps )
-Very strong considering the load increase.

TRICEPS PUSHDOWNS:
10@77 lbs ( +1 rep )
10@77 lbs ( +3 rep )
10@77 lbs ( +3 rep )
Total : 30 reps ( -7 reps )
-Very strong here too.

-Foam rolling.

-Lower body stretching.

TDEE of 2200 kcals seemed to work this week, keeping it for the next.

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